Feeling like a Neanderthal? Here's why
Research shows many humans are part Neanderthal, like this reconstruction at a German museum.
July 26th, 2011
10:47 AM ET

Feeling like a Neanderthal? Here's why

(CNN) - Apparently, there's a bit of Neanderthal in many of us, according to a newly released study.

Research says modern humans of non-African heritage have distant genetic ties to Neanderthals - cousins of modern humans who went extinct 30,000 years ago.

Published in Oxford Journals' "Molecular Biology and Evolution," the study backs up previous theories that humans and Neanderthals mated and had offspring.

The research is based on analysis of more than 6,000 DNA samples gathered from all populated continents.

In most of the samples, part of the human X chromosome called the haplotype shared a DNA sequence with the Neanderthal genome, said University of Montreal Professor Damian Labuta, who lead the study for CHU Sainte-Justine Research Center. But the Neanderthal sequence was not present in haplotype taken from people with sub-Saharan African heritage.

Neanderthals lived in what is now western Eur-Asia including parts of Germany, France, Spain, Russia and Croatia. Their ancestors left Africa at least 400,000 years ago, which likely explains why humans with African heritage don't have Neanderthal-linked chromosomes.

So is sharing DNA with Neanderthals a good thing?

Neanderthals: Less creative than us?

Possibly, said Labuta. The mixing of genetic material between humans and Neanderthals 50,000 years ago may have helped modern day humans ward off dangerous diseases, funguses or viruses.

"Diversity is very important for long-term survival of a species," Labuda said on the phone from his Montreal office. "Whether this diversity in this case was useful, we don't know yet."

More study has to be done to find out if the genetic material gained from Neanderthals is simply "junk DNA" or served a useful purpose, he said.

Study: Neanderthals cooked, ate veggies

Popular culture hasn't been kind to our ancient cousins, leading to the misperception that Neanderthals weren't intelligent. In fact, experts believe they were just as smart as modern humans.

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  1. duderino

    Yes, and black people score lower on IQ tests and women score lower on math and logic. Statistics which are meaningless when talking about individuals. There are still white morons, black nobel prize winners, asians who have 20/20 vision and even the occassional female scientist....these numbers are only relevant when talking about groups. Bigots like to focus on meaningless data like this and apply it to individuals. It doesn't work that way.

    December 7, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
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  3. Yay

    I always thought we were different from Africans...

    September 11, 2012 at 10:18 pm |
    • taliba

      Yeah, you're the Neanderthals you act and look like.

      May 16, 2013 at 11:34 am |
  4. Moseh

    "SERPENT PEOPLE",...... Adam, the very first modern-man was black. Eve the very first modern-woman was black. The children of Adam and Eve were black. The children of the "SERPENT" or the "Seed of the Serpent" are neanderthal. The "SERPENT" represents a race of "Spirit-beings" who where worshipped as gods long before the "creation" of "Adam". "That OLD Serpent". The "Tree of LIFE" represents the bloodline of Adam and Eve, or simply the "Seed of Man". The "Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil", is the "Seed of the Serpent". The "SERPENT" tricks Eve into eating the "FORBIDDEN FRUIT", Then Eve convinces Adam to eat of the same "tree". This mingling caused several "genetic" and "spiritual" mutations overtime. Not to mention, sowing the "Seed of the "SERPENT" with the "Seed of Man". The HEBREWS ARE BLACK. They ARE "OPPRESSED". They ARE "CURSED". They ARE "PROVERBS". They ARE "BYWORDS". They ARE "LOST". They ARE "SCATTERED". They ARE in "LANDS NOT KNOWN TO THEIR FOREFATHERS". Yet,.. they "DO NOT KNOW".

    August 20, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
    • heretic

      hahahahahahaha !!!! you stupid monkey ! and where did you learn this ??? somewhere incorporating a pyramid, star of david and tons of reconstructed history ??

      April 27, 2013 at 12:15 pm |
      • taliba

        You are the closest to the stupid monkey, Neanderthal is part of YOUR DNA remember? Oh forgot, you can't remember the past.

        May 16, 2013 at 11:37 am |
  5. CRAIG WAKELEY

    THESE COMMENTS BE RACIST! AND ARTICAL BE RACIST TOO!

    August 6, 2012 at 10:39 am |
  6. Damon

    Humans actually share 98.4% of their genetic make up with chimps. There is a 3.2% difference between a chimp and a gorilla. Make of it what you will.

    April 9, 2012 at 3:49 pm |
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    February 24, 2012 at 11:15 am |
  8. Nate

    Interesting, very interesting. I like how white supremacists will use this discovery about neanderthals to justify their "physical and mental superiority", haha makes me laugh! I hope they realize that 96 to 99 percent of their DNA, the DNA that is make you look human and act human, is from Black Sub-Saharan Africans, who were the original humans.True non Africans have 1 to 4 percent Neanderthal DNA, but also know that those who traveled out of Africa still interbred with Africans 20,000 to 40,000 years ago, around the time that Neanderthals became extinct. So if you're a non – African, you might not have any Neanderthal DNA, just human DNA. Also, for the record, not all blacks lack Neanderthal DNA. African Americans are on average 17-18% European, so they will have some Neanderthal DNA. In fact, none of this Neanderthal sh##t may be true because you can never know anything for sure unless you are actually there!!!

    November 6, 2011 at 1:19 am |
  9. Lex Luthor

    Aren't Neanderthals filthy beasts that lived in caves? Gross.

    September 4, 2011 at 3:21 am |
    • fimeilleur

      No.

      September 5, 2011 at 2:07 am |
    • Jake

      Actually they lived in wigwam style houses, like the Native Americans of a couple hundred years ago or Kenyans do right now.

      July 23, 2013 at 3:07 pm |
  10. eapretto

    Changes in the shape of the human skull (cranial vault) in gigantism (acromegally) depend on whether the disease appeared in childhood or adulthood, when bones have achieved full growth. In adults, changes include protrusion of the brow, widening of the paranasal sinuses, protrusion of the jaw (prognathism), etc. Sound familiar? The drawing of the Neanderthal subject depicted in this article is deceptive in that it shows skin color and hirsutism (abundance of body hair), all of which are not based on evidence. Also, the hands and feet of the acromegalic patient are enlarged, especially in males. I would like to see the skull of a person who died from a severe case of untreated adult acromegaly placed next to one of a neanderthal to determine how great the differences might be. Obviously, if you compare the skull of a normal human with that of a Neanderthal the differences will be very evident as would be the comparison of the skull of an acromegalic next to the skull of a normal human. Therefore, comparing a neanderthal to a normal human is an unfair comparison since it does not rule out what a disease human skull could look like and highlights what is wrong with paleoentology namely, all possibilities of human bone diseases are not taken into account.

    August 24, 2011 at 4:52 pm |
  11. eapretto

    These findings do not rule out the possibility that Neanderthals were in fact humans, albeit with some diseased genes accounting for the unique phenotype. There is very little data regarding how much hair Neanderthals had. Go to a medical museum and take a look at the bone deformities present in some of those specimens and you will see that variations in shape of the skull vary widely depending on the disease affecting the bones. Even in modern day untreated gigantism due to excessive growth hormone causes many of similar changes in the shape of the skull and bones as seen in the Neanderthal specimens. Therefore genetic and skeletal evidence does not rule out conclusively that these individuals were in fact humans.

    August 24, 2011 at 4:32 pm |
    • Ned

      No matter, the fact is we can all inter-breed but not with apes,or monkeys or gorillas who we are not related to i've seen many countless inter-racial couples but not one inter species ( with humans) ones and I am quite sure apes and chimps were here as long as we were if not longer so if we are related to them like we are ancient man we should be able to produce off-spring just like with Neanderthals.

      June 27, 2013 at 6:07 pm |
  12. Alex Gessong

    Interesting research, but whatever Neanderthals contributed to modern humans, it seems to be basically nothing of value. Most likely, Neanderthals gave us new hair colors and longer body hairs, possibly more body fat. Aside from those things, modern humans are modern humans, sharing common organs, blood types, average temperatures, dentation, etc. There may be Neanderthal DNA, but we don't find Neanderthal traits in modern humans. If you stood a Neanderthal next to a modern human you'd know the difference between them immediately. The sloping forehead, chinless jaw, and heavy musculature of the Neanderthal were striking. Neanderthals also matured faster than modern humans do. Neanderthals are gone, possibly killed off by modern humans, possibly absorbed by us, that's all. Modern human DNA prevailed, whatever the case. Else we'd occasionally see a Neanderthal wander by.

    August 5, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
    • Rick Wolfe

      If you ever met my college roommate you may rethink you opinion! I must say he was quite skilled at flintnapping though.

      August 12, 2011 at 1:26 pm |
    • Edgar Wilson

      "whatever Neanderthals contributed to modern humans, it seems to be basically nothing of value" On average all non-Africans (i.e. people with Neanderthal DNA) score significantly higher on intelligence test than do Africans (i.e. people without Neanderthal DNA) but that's just a coincidence.

      May 4, 2012 at 1:34 pm |
      • Gee Whiz

        yes,the neanderthals must of had more intelligence,thats why they went extinct? hmm.

        July 2, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
    • Iamjustsayin

      I am not trying to sound like a biggot, but I have always believed that white people were very different from the rest of humanity. I think the Neanderthal discovery explains a lot of things. White people are more war like and destructive. Lynching and torturing people while enjoying cook outs with women and children– the Spanish Inquisition, Crusades, slaughter of native cultures all around the world, and the Roman Coliseums. The making soap, lampshades and furniture out of human body parts is just not human behavior. It is no way that a true human could stomach torturing anyone as they beg for their life. Then If you look at a healthy human of direct African decent’s body, it is symmetrical, muscular, with smaller orifices (nose, mouth, ears, etc. than their white counterparts.) Many white people have horn shaped noses, hairy bodies, long backs with flat buttocks, fat calves, tiny lips. They are built differently for the most part. The large variations in how they look tells their story of a hybridization. I often wonder if the fairies, orks and other mythical creatures aren’t part of their history. Then you have the tall, thin, slender waif of a person that is built like a Gray. Has anyone ever wondered why they are modifying our food,so it has less nutritional value? Could it be that they are trying to provide nutrients to non-human–non earthly beings. These tall incredibly thin people with Barbie Features, don’t look like anyone in humanity. Not the Neanderthal-Human Hybrid and not the Human.

      April 27, 2013 at 1:07 am |
      • Gsg

        It's not just the white people that have the neanderthral DNA, but also asians, and and native Americans. In other words its the Africans that are different from the rest of humanity. And please don't go out calling it the white devils work. It's nonsense.

        April 27, 2013 at 9:38 am |
      • Wotansvolk

        Typical reply from a neeg whose people are hacking each other up all over Africa with machetes in the name of genocide. No mention of that...

        June 4, 2013 at 9:41 am |
  13. hardwired

    "But the Neanderthal sequence was not present in haplotype taken from people with sub-Saharan African heritage."

    Conclusion: Neanderthal's were the earliest racists. I smell an LZ Granderson article just waiting to be written.

    August 4, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
    • Alex Gessong

      @hardwired: non-Sub-Saharan-African = racist? I don't think so. Besides, since the modern humans who mated with Neanderthals would have been modern humans who were migrating northward from Africa. Since Neanderthals are gone and only a fraction of their DNA is present in modern humans, it's likely that they were either killed off by diseases that modern humans brought with them , or through warfare with modern humans, or that Neanderthals simply couldn't compete with modern humans for food, despite the Neanderthals' greater physical strength.

      August 5, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
      • Brandon M.

        Actually, the evidence points to a massive extinction based on infection of the sinus cavity. One of the largest physiological differences between neanderthals and humans is the size of our sinus cavity (ours is small, there's was big). Fungi and bacteria love living in large, warm, wet environments. Most contemporary thought points towards massive sinus infections following the end of the ice age as the reason they died off. Those huge nasal passages worked well during the cold ice age... not so much during the warm up period.

        August 24, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • Paul

      Would you really attribute contemporary racist ideology to prehistoric peoples? Reread the article; it explains that Africans migrated to the Middle East and eventually Europe and the rest of the world about 330,000 years after Neanderthals left the mother continent.

      October 7, 2011 at 12:57 am |
    • Maddog

      Funny how Racist people always call other's racist(which ironically enough is part of the definition of racism)

      January 12, 2013 at 5:37 pm |
  14. GrandpaNate

    People just don't understand the obvious: People came out of Africa and met the Neanderthals. They where each greatly impressed with their new friend's knowledge. They visited, fed each other, hunted together, fished together, slept together and made babies together. And those babies, due to hybid vigor, genetic enhacement and the combined knowledge of their dual ancestry, were healthier, smarter, more abitious; simply more capible than any animal that had theretofore ever lived upon this planet. They thrived, learned quickly, muliplied, and rapidly spread over the Earth. And I have little doubt that they took excellent care of their Neandertal and African grand-parents as long as they were around.

    July 31, 2011 at 5:48 pm |
    • Alex Gessong

      @GrandpaNate: Nice narrative, but makes many assumptions. Mate a lion and tiger and you don't get a smarter, healthier, more ambitious hybrid, for example. Same with mating a wolf and a coyote. There's no automatic result that the hybrid will be bigger, healthier, smarter, or more ambitious at all. It may even be less robust than the parent stock. Observing the differences within modern humans, we don't find any obvious Neanderthal traits (chinless jaw, sloping forehead, etc.). We can speculate that they introduced lighter skin tones and different hair colors, possibly longer body hairs, but that's about it. Pretty much, modern humans are modern humans, which makes sense given the very small amount of Neanderthal DNA found in modern populations. Hybrids on the other hand get half of their DNA from each parent, not the small fraction that we have from the Neanderthals.

      August 5, 2011 at 7:07 pm |
      • O'Really @ Alex

        Old Story I know...Pre-emptive comment. Wolf and Coyote hybrids sometimes produce bolder offspring(ambitious), not weary of humans like wolves are... it can happen. Neanderthals also had bigger brains, our language gene, red hairs and who knows what else.

        Oh yeah, I have a sloping forehead and I see other people with that trait.

        July 22, 2012 at 2:57 pm |
  15. db

    So my question is, if Neanderthal is extinct, where did the DNA sample come from?

    July 27, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
    • The Jackdaw

      Teeth.

      July 27, 2011 at 1:02 pm |
    • Iamjustsayin

      The Language gene did not come from Neanderthal, since Sub-Saharan Africans developed the Latin Language and many others without having bred with the Neanderthal.

      April 27, 2013 at 1:18 am |
      • Heidi

        You have got to be kidding. Are you truly trying to claim that Africans created Latin, and Sub-Africans at that? Do you even realize WHEN Latin was used?

        Good grief. And "Blacks" think "Whites" are racist!

        August 13, 2013 at 2:41 am |
  16. TruthHurts

    LOL!!! It is NO surprise that whites/asians/arabs came from neanderthals. They have treated africans and the earth with disrespect for thousands of years. when they took those Africans as slaves they were the most brutal to them. They do everything in their power to make Africans feel less than human. They were the ones who call Africans animals, and monkeys knowing damn well that THEY are the beast of burden.

    July 27, 2011 at 11:12 am |
    • The Jackdaw

      Non-Africans are Beasts of Burdon because they left Africa and collected some different genetic materials? You paint the African people as though they are better because they didn’t, but if they were better, I think Africa would be a Utopia instead of the civil war and genocide ridden land that it is today. I think it’s either incredibly naive or simply racist to suggest that that is the case when it is clearly not. Humans are destructive and take advantage of those who are either weaker due to their numbers, resources or technology. This is the case regardless of race.

      July 27, 2011 at 12:09 pm |
    • Andre

      Basically Neanderthal, Homo-sapiens Africans or non- Africans all come from one common ancestor homo-erectus and share 99% of our DNA with chimps. So everybody grab a banana and give the one next to you hug because we are all aps. Wahohaha ho ho ho

      August 4, 2011 at 5:40 pm |
    • Lets-Be-Real

      Africans sold off rival tribes and in some cases there own people as slaves...

      August 5, 2011 at 9:26 am |
      • Alex Gessong

        @Lets-be-Real: Europeans did the same things to other Europeans. Asians did the same things to other Asians. Slavery is very old.

        August 5, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
      • meme

        That's white people's propaganda. Turning Black skinned people against themselves. White people are now coming up with that story to save face. No one and no kingdom in Africa benefitted from the slave trade. It is widely known that only the slave traders who were Arabs, and the White people who came to the African shores to collect the slaves were the only people who benefitted. Villages were raided and burned by white people and Arabs, and the strong were taken away and sold into slavery. People were captured while tending to their daily businesses, bound in chains and taken to slave warehouses. Now doer of the crime is trying to throw the blame around!!!!! Wow!!!

        And now, after centuries of calling black people monkeys, the truth's coming out. White people have neanderthal dna and pure black people don't????? Haaaaa!! Who's the monkey now????

        August 16, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
      • Heidi

        This is an old post, so hopefully you have actually read some more history books.
        The Nation of Islam has even had to ADMIT that the majority of those that benefited from slavery were NOT "WHITE CAUCASIANS", it was the "Tribe" that pretends to be "White" while also claiming to be an "ethnic minority" – these are the people that took both WHITE and BLACK slaves to the Americas. This is the same "Tribe" that has been in CONTROL of the slave trade since the time of ROME. They are the same "Tribe" that rejected Christ, and still rule the world today by deception.

        August 13, 2013 at 3:17 am |
    • Alex Gessong

      @TruthHurts: Whites an Arabs don't come from Neanderthals. 3-6% Neanderthal DNA, so 94-97% modern human DNA. Modern humans, no matter their skin color, are a single human race. At best it's likely that the Neanderthal genetic contribution helped modern humans adapt to the colder climates that they encountered when they migrated North from Africa and began to spread around the globe. If you compare Neanderthals to modern humans, it's immediately apparent that modern humans are modern humans. The Neanderthals are long gone, so you may rest assured that the old conflicts between sub-Saharan Africans and others are simply the result of the human drive to dominate other people. Fortunately, most people outgrow it. But those who don't outgrow it often end up ruling countries or tribes or political parties or talk-radio programs.

      August 5, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
      • Derek

        Haha, so true. You have the best comment here, and I've read just about all.

        April 6, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
    • Raul

      Wait...wasn't it the Neanderthals that were brutally wiped out by the homosapiens who were at the time African? If you want to reference brutality upon Africans, your time frame is completely skewed. So in fact, if anything, it was these decedents of Neanderthal that were so brutally snubbed out by the Africans lol.

      In all reality, you, and everyone else that makes this a race issue is purely fucking stupid lol.

      August 13, 2011 at 8:58 am |
  17. Rich Zubaty

    Neanderthals had bigger brains than we do. Their problem was they weren't as vicious as us. If you have doubts about either of those facts just read the comments below.

    July 27, 2011 at 10:25 am |
    • BlackZeus

      Bigger brain doesn't always mean more intelligence. It's the percentage of the brain used that more critical.

      July 30, 2011 at 6:02 pm |
      • meme

        In this instance, size does matter. Brain size has proven a pretty good indicator of potential intelligence when the body mass is small; like in modern humans and our ancestors...How did I know this whole wonderful breakthrough was going to be bastardized and skewed into a racial debate. How pathetic we all are.

        August 12, 2011 at 1:32 am |
    • Alex Gessong

      @Rich: Which suggests that whatever Neanderthals contributed to modern humans, it wasn't brain size. Modern humans have a modern human brain size, different from that of Neanderthals. Most likely, Neanderthals gave us new hair colors and longer body hairs, possibly more body fat. Contributions beyond that are unlikely, as we don't find anything to suggest otherwise. Modern humans are modern humans, same organs, blood types, average temperatures, dentation, etc. There may be Neandethal DNA, but we don't find Neanderthal traits in modern humans.

      August 5, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
  18. TrekkieGT

    Lucy, I'm home!

    July 27, 2011 at 10:20 am |
  19. asdf

    This is nothing new.

    July 27, 2011 at 10:18 am |
  20. RCBinTN

    Now I understand those random urges to beat the crap out of something.

    July 27, 2011 at 10:02 am |
  21. aNN west

    It's so ironic because whites have called everyone else uncivilized animals , while abusing everyone on the planet .

    July 27, 2011 at 9:48 am |
    • ireuel

      How nice of you to dis all the whites. How insightful.

      July 27, 2011 at 10:26 am |
      • dreuis

        well it is true

        i have never met a nice white person

        August 4, 2011 at 7:33 pm |
    • White people may become extinct too

      Just like neanderthals, white people who have a lot of neanderthal genes may become extinct soon too. Whites are the most savage and prehistoric among all the animals in the world, and that's what caused the neanderthal's demise.

      July 27, 2011 at 11:10 am |
      • TruthHurts

        ^^ that is so true. This is why they are destroying the earth now..and the earth is fighting back hard. They are war like creatures. It's in their nature to destroy themselves. They need harsh laws because they have little conscience. They hated humanity since day one. This is why there were no blacks on the flintstones.LOL

        July 27, 2011 at 11:23 am |
      • Alex Gessong

        @'White...too": It's not a lot of genes, it's 3-6% of the DNA. It may account for nothing at all, just an interesting record of ancient mating s between Neanderthals and modern humans. No danger of extinction unless a really big rock smacks into the Earth at very high velocity, so you may rest assured.

        August 5, 2011 at 8:00 pm |
      • Raul

        Ah yes, and yet another example of how wondrous, modern technology can turn people into complete fucking idiots (bloggers).

        August 13, 2011 at 9:02 am |
    • Alex Gessong

      @aNN west: Not all whites. I'd say not even the majority. Most whites are good people like everyone else. It's just that racists get the attention, much as we pay more attention to a snake that's coiled to attack us than we do to the snake that's ridding our gardens of mice. Some day the racists will fade into history, just as the Neanderthals did. But, just as with the Neanderthals, they'll be gone but we'll still know they were here.

      August 5, 2011 at 7:48 pm |
  22. the lepps

    so tell me how did we go from adam and eve speaking english in a garden of eden to neanderthals and dinosaurs and names like ug that didnt have much of a language

    July 27, 2011 at 9:44 am |
    • Alex Gessong

      @lepps: Adam and Eve spoke the language of love. Neanderthals and dinosaurs only coexisted in "The Flintstones." ;)

      August 5, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
  23. In America

    This does not surprise me in the least. Nor should it surprise anyone whose driven in Atlanta traffic!

    July 27, 2011 at 8:22 am |
  24. Jorge

    When God made man, he soon discovered that loyalty and good deeds were not his strong points.

    In recognition of the natural perversity of man, God gave him a series of recommendations and rules, so that man would not self-destruct.

    Man, confirming what God had recognized about him at the start, turned them into religion and politics...

    July 27, 2011 at 8:20 am |
    • Oh Really

      Man created gods in his own image. Then he created four legged gods and stood them in mirrors. He called those dogs.

      July 27, 2011 at 9:25 am |
    • Andy

      LOL

      July 27, 2011 at 9:34 am |
    • richunix

      You base this scientific mar've on? Before you continue please infor the public name of your deity as it is NOT the word GOD (6th century word of German orgins) .

      Stephen F Roberts: “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.”

      Atheism is not a religion nor is it a belief.

      July 27, 2011 at 9:38 am |
  25. dave

    pete 100 years from now the planet is going to be a pile of shit–the human race won't have a colony on mars–but some people did or some i should say realize that god nor aliens didn't create the human race.

    July 27, 2011 at 7:36 am |
    • LRoy

      I want a real ape-man!

      Seriously, I think it's time we investigate living on planet Mars. I guess you can include me since I'm English/French.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:42 am |
  26. SNAPPA

    Well, that would explain what's going on in Washington, and it would also explain right wingers...

    July 27, 2011 at 6:47 am |
  27. Bemused

    If this is true, then African people are the only true full-blooded humans left on earth. What an irony after centuries of idiots calling them names based on the misconception they were somehow less evolved...

    July 27, 2011 at 6:26 am |
    • A. Nony

      Yes, it is pretty funny, isn't it? However, the Neandertals were human, just a different species of human == homo neandertalensis instead of homo sapiens. And, we should not really be called homo sapiens - we certainly are NOT wise. This isn't news either, the results came out and were published about six months ago.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:42 am |
    • LRoy

      I think it's only because blacks were "smart enough" (if you want to call it that) to stay in Africa while they had the chance instead of flitting all over the place.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:44 am |
    • kevyn

      You do understand that the vast majority if Black Americans or if you want African Americans have european blood running in there veins even if they are blue black...blue blood lol.

      July 27, 2011 at 10:22 am |
    • Night

      I find it very interesting that the media is referring to 'Modern Humans' left Africa when in fact these modern humans were Africans who went on to populate the rest of the world.

      July 30, 2011 at 6:10 pm |
      • Night

        Ok let me rephrase it this way. Modern humans who left Africa were African. Neanderthals also came from Africa. Which implies all the races of the world today are diversified Africans... This story is really about the triumph the African Homo Sepian. On a side note – it worth noting that even among Africans in Sub – Saharan region have more genetic variation than any other race on the planet. So all this excitement and media spin among non-Africans is an illusion.

        July 30, 2011 at 6:24 pm |
    • Leeander

      Bemused equals ignorance. No, what it means is that the races evolved separately from approximately two million years ago, not 50k like the moronic "out of africa" sheep teach and preach. It doesn't mean anyone is more "pure" than anyone else, just that we're different, and, in all honesty, should celebrate that instead of this nonsense of being color blind or race being a social construct. Nope. It's an honest to goodness biological physiological construct with each race evolving to best potential based on environment in which they existed. We are different. We are like cousins, not on a single continuum. Politically correct crap has infected and stunted true scientific research. Not interested in throwing less dominant races a bone, more interested in reality.

      August 26, 2012 at 2:23 am |
  28. Pete

    it's fortunate that our cultural evolution is finally removing the destructive, genocidal and delusional plague of humanity that is religion. As society & culture evolves, we no longer need to bow down to a wooden cross as we hopefully conjure up a special friend that will keep us safe. We're finally growing up as a species, and our progress over the next 1000 years will be a triumph as we break the bonds of servitude that religion had over our ancestors.

    i'm all for spirituality, as it can promote psychological wellbeing (when considered RATIONALLY), but talk of various bibles being anything like fact is childish, and embarassing. And let me guess, it'll all come clear on judgement day??

    Pathetic.

    PS, study carbon dating and archaeological records of species actually being seen in each stage of evolution and tell us it's all false. Delusional much? Feel bad for me going to hell? I feel bad for you living in fear of an imaginary man in the sky.

    July 27, 2011 at 6:05 am |
    • One7777777

      "And let me guess, it'll all come clear on judgement day?"

      For you, YES.

      July 27, 2011 at 9:21 am |
  29. JESUS IS LORD

    I always knew atheists were part neanderthal.

    July 27, 2011 at 4:16 am |
    • mary

      So are you, you dolt. "There are some people who do not love their fellow man, and I hate people like that." Tom Lehrer

      July 27, 2011 at 5:46 am |
    • sean b

      Spoken like a true christian: ignorant, uninformed, hateful. Praise Jebus!

      July 27, 2011 at 7:30 am |
      • rev lovejoy

        amen

        August 4, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
    • Paul

      So all people of Non-African heritage are athiests? I always thought white people went to Africa looking to convert Africans to Christians... but according to you, Africans are trying to convert the whole world into Christianity.

      July 27, 2011 at 9:28 am |
  30. KC

    Well, I've dated a few Neanderthals–they are a bit rough around the edges.

    July 27, 2011 at 3:23 am |
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      July 27, 2011 at 3:40 am |
    • LRoy

      Yeah, I've seen male silver back gorilla who are WAY sexier (if only I was a female gorilla) then some human so-called "hunks". And I LOVE hairy chests and big strong hands!

      July 27, 2011 at 7:48 am |
  31. Hairy Grizzlybear

    I'm sure glad you science puritans are so sure of what some over zealous ego minded scientists say supposedly happened millions of years agom when nobody was there to set a time marker. They can't even give out weather forecasts that have any consistent accuracy for the next two weeks, let alone tell me what happened 30 million years back in time.

    Scientists also cannot explain where them molecules came from to create the universe, before the so called "Big Bang."

    There are several Hundred diseases that the magic of science has not cured. Just because there were and are creatures that are similar to Humans does not prove that we automatically descended from them, or other like creatures for that matter. All that proves is that there are other animals that are similar to our species in fact. Take a Banana it has half the genes of a human being, does this mean that we all came from a Banana?

    July 27, 2011 at 1:52 am |
    • Flounder

      Right On.

      Who in their right mind would believe chemical and DNA "Analysis" done by thousands of people who so self-righously claim to have devoted their lives to facts and logic when it is so absolutely clear Our Divine and All Powerful Invisible Creator obviously did all this to test our faith in the truth. Its so sad that anybody who does will have their invisible, untraceable essence burn in the invisible, unknowable fires instead of knowing unknowable joy for all eternity.

      Get some common sense scientists!

      July 27, 2011 at 2:21 am |
    • Nikolas

      The time frame would actually be a few hundred years in the past. The thing with science is that it's actually the opposite of magic. So all the leaps of faith and areas otherwise lacking explanation are gradually eroded. Saying Plutonium 241 will decay 50% over the course of 14 years and 5 months, for example is possible through meticulous application of the scientific method. There are numerous more elegant theories as to the imbalance of time, space, and energy subsequent the big bang, they're just difficult to test- but are being tested in machines such as the Large Hadron Collider. The Theory of evolution is as established as the quantum theory (through which it's possible to understand the electronic interactions in electronic devices such as computers) and the theory of gravity (things fall in predictable ways). Meteorology is often more complex than genetic theory as it has a greatly condensed timeline. We do know where clouds come from, and things tat make clouds turn into puddles. I trust the weatherman over a mystical interpretation of the weather more than 9/10ths of the time I plan a picnic (though pink sky at night is a pretty safe rule).

      July 27, 2011 at 2:31 am |
    • shawn L

      There are a lot of diseases and illnesses that science havent solved.

      There are NONE that religion has solved.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:38 am |
    • Nikolas

      BTW, while ALL disease has yet to be cured, things are better than the dark ages. We no longer have Smallpox and Polio, Malaria is treatable and could be eradicated in my lifetime, HIV is treatable, various methods including radiation treatment and gene therapy have been effective against cancer, antibiotics such as penicillin were scientific discoveries, we have implants for a wide range of ailments from deafness to heart disease, the CDC uses science to predict the spread of infectious diseases, we know what germs and viruses are..... it's a long shot from removing every threat to human life, but saying science hasn't cured all disease is silly. Some people say ignorance is a disease, and looking at the comments of any major news website shows that it must be a pandemic... clearly something for scientists to work on!

      July 27, 2011 at 2:45 am |
    • wakeups

      i hate name calling, but you are a friggin bozo. just because you were home schooled does not mean that science doesn't exist... if you were Amish, and didn't believe in the benefits of science, like cars and digital music and computers, then I'd say go ahead and believe what you wish and spread your faith, but since you are a hypocrite who enjoys the benefits of science while condemning the whole cannon of scientific practice, I must in 'good faith' call you a moron.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:50 am |
      • LRoy

        Science can be good but it has gotten that the scientific process is worse than what it's trying to cure/prevent.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:50 am |
    • The reply

      Why all the witty banter towards this comment? Here...you sir, are a dumbass. Simple

      July 27, 2011 at 4:04 am |
    • Joel

      Look everyone is obviously entitled to their own opinion, but if it's only an opinion that you seek, then religion suits you well. The thing about good science is that is is about discovery, as many have stated above. You are only asked to look at the evidence and make an educated guess. If you are trying to prove that science has not solved every problem to which there may be an answer, then you have no need to try.

      July 27, 2011 at 4:15 am |
    • Ryan

      The time frame of a few hundred years? Please, do society a favour and never have kids.

      July 27, 2011 at 4:39 am |
    • bbmcrae

      Hairy Grizzlybear" "I don't believe in science."

      Written on a computer, sent out out over the internet, both inventions of science.

      Sigh. It must be fun to embrace ignorance like a blanket.

      July 27, 2011 at 6:52 am |
      • Julie in Austin

        It must be reassuring to be unaware that the Bible says G-d created the Universe from nothingness, and that science agrees that the universe was created from nothingness. About as reassuring to be ignorant that before the current continents separated from a single land mass, the Holy Land was at the center of that land mass.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:29 am |
    • Julie in Austin

      @Hairy,

      The molecules (sub-atomic particles, actually) for the Big Bang came from nothingness, just like the Bible says. Evolution and archaeology explains that Man was fairly late in the order of things, just like the Bible says.

      The Bible explains "how to live your life", Science explains "how stuff works". If you want to know how to live your life, read the Bible. If you want to understand the origins of life and the universe, read a science text.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:25 am |
    • sean b

      Well, YOU might have come from a banana. Or another equally intelligent piece of fruit.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:32 am |
    • sean b

      "There are several hundred diseases science hasn't cured." Well, it's track record is better than the bible's; that book tells us to treat leprosy with "oil of hyssop". Does nothing to cure anything. I guess god just wanted lepers around until science could come up with a cure for that (and thousands of other) "god- created" scourges.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:40 am |
      • LRoy

        And sick people used to bleed from leeches. Doctors put maggots on diseased tissue (because they only eat dead tissue). As long as I don't have to watch, works for me then some pusedo man-made medicine that was manufactured in some laboratory.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:53 am |
    • A. Nony

      And when you or someone you love are falsely accused of murder or rape you won't want a DNA analysis done to
      establish your innocence? And you and the bannana (and everything else living on earth) share a common ancestor if you go back far enough. You and chimps share a common ancestor six milllion years ago. You and e coli (a bacterium) share a common ancestor several billions of years ago. You and the dodo...pretty recent.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:49 am |
      • LRoy

        This only proves that we're ALL related somewhere along the line.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:55 am |
    • Glenn

      So because there are some things that science doesn't know, then all things science proclaims is false? What a scientific observation of you (sarcasm)! Don't bother proving how women are created from ribs, snakes talk, bushes burst into flames and seas spontaneously part. Don't worry your pretty little head.

      July 27, 2011 at 8:25 am |
    • Maya

      Wow, someone played hooky during biology class.

      July 27, 2011 at 8:46 am |
    • FastEddie

      So...your argument amounts to "scientists don't know everything, therefore they know nothing"?

      July 27, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  32. Brak

    Is that Michelle Obama?...OOPS! :(

    July 27, 2011 at 1:35 am |
    • wakeups

      you are a racist prick with herpes.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:44 am |
    • David B.

      I'm amazed you know how to type on a computer, much less get on the internet. If you'd read the article, you'd know that Africans are least likely to have the Neanderthal DNA. Bearing that in mind, your mother would more likely resemble a Neanderthal.

      July 27, 2011 at 9:12 am |
    • Paul

      In fact, white women sans hair cuts, razors, and makeup look much more like that imagined neanderthal than the First Lady. With the exception of the great ape, non-Africans have much greater phenotypical resemblance to other animals than Africans–straight hair, light eyes and hair, light skins–neanderthal dna may account for this.

      October 7, 2011 at 1:13 am |
      • Night

        So in other words that makes Africans very unique

        October 7, 2011 at 9:11 am |
  33. mcwhiteys

    This news is a bit old.

    July 27, 2011 at 1:32 am |
    • shawn L

      It's quite dated. I read about this a few years ago.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:40 am |
      • wakeups

        dang, schooled your honky ass.

        July 27, 2011 at 2:45 am |
  34. Ted Levy

    If Neanderthal mated with homo sapien, was it an illegal act, a civil union or did they get legally married?

    July 27, 2011 at 1:09 am |
    • Sean Burns

      Pretty sure it was illegal, The aps didn't want us cross breading and becoming smarter than them. Ops

      July 27, 2011 at 11:03 am |
  35. rona

    The past tense of "to lead" is not "lead." It is "led."

    July 27, 2011 at 1:00 am |
    • cieno

      You are an idiot; who needs a dictionary.

      July 27, 2011 at 4:51 am |
  36. mmi16

    So simple even a caveman can hit it!

    July 27, 2011 at 12:54 am |
  37. Who

    Lol. Funny thing is the Natin Of Islam has been saying this for the last century, but it isn't offical until some Europeans decide to put it out.

    July 27, 2011 at 12:04 am |
    • shawn L

      When did the nation of islam have a team of scientists working on this?

      Its official because Scientists discovered it. And you are rather racist if you assume all of them were white scientists.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:41 am |
      • Real

        See that's because YOU don't know .. The Nation of Islam has taught this about whites for more than 30 years ... Blacks knew this but a lot of racist scientist put out false supremist info. many other black organizations have this info as well such as the nation of gods and earths, moorish science temple, nuwaubian nation, and a ton of others. ALSO !!! and this might shock you ... but virtually no black men believe that those people in israel are gods true chosen people ! Blacks were here first and all the ancient tablets in cunieform were by our hands and every disciption of GODS is as a BLACKMAN. from ANU to RA which ever is older but really the same person. JEHOVAH came with white religion and a white image. So after 400 years of SLAVERY, brainwashing, and identity removal , We still retained this knowledge and science is verifing it. I cannot be antisemetic because my ancestor created the languages and cultures, from SUMERIA to EYGPT to the OLMECS XI DYNASTY. WE know the science of the pyramids and engineering you can't even dream of ... you only DISCOVER what we have already done >>>> you don't even have a machine that could lift ONE of those STONES on those magnificent buildings WE created >>> funny though how some are willing to believe extra terrestrials but all this but not the BLACKS who were obviously there.

        July 27, 2011 at 2:45 pm |
    • Julie in Austin

      The Nation of Islam claims that the Earth is 76 trillion years old and that non-Africans were created by a mad scientist named "Yaqub".

      July 27, 2011 at 7:39 am |
  38. deerrrrr

    Funny I have known this for years – it became completely obvious in college when I was in my fraternity ;D

    July 26, 2011 at 11:09 pm |
  39. Sybaris

    Geico or AmFam?

    July 26, 2011 at 10:51 pm |
  40. Maria Najar

    The article is very poorly written. What a waste of a good subject!!!!!!!!!

    July 26, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • Sarah

      I agree. When I hear "modern humans of non-African heritage," I wonder who such modern humans might be? EVERYONE is of African heritage.

      It's interesting that the mix with Neanderthals might have helped to ward off disease. I have heard that humans may have originally left Africa because of the prevalence of tropical disease.

      July 27, 2011 at 12:53 am |
  41. sol

    Some people commenting on this article seem to feel confident in assigning different traits to Neanderthals. Nowhere have I seen any reason to believe they were vicious, stupid, unable to to talk or any of the other negative traits some people assume they had. They may have had a tendency to red hair since their remains have visible red hair traces, and their math and engineering abilities may have been lacking due to their skull shape, and apparent lack of a large frontal lobe area, but they may have been artistic, musical, or socially advanced in areas where we are somewhat lacking. Today we have only one true "Race" the "Human Race." The fact that we may have inherited some good and some bad genes from our ancestors doesn't give us anything to brag about. Our best appearing gene may carry a penalty and our most obvious "bad gene" may serve a critical need to our decendants. I'm a six and a half foot tall blue-eyed white man, but if a gene from a small black woman would make me healthier, happier, a better father or husband, or maybe smarter, I'd really appreciate someone to donate or sell me that gene. Sol

    July 26, 2011 at 10:39 pm |
    • sashet

      Namaste : )

      July 27, 2011 at 12:56 am |
    • Elaine

      Dear Sol,

      I happen to have that gene and was about to put it on eBay. Of course, if you want to make an offer I can't refuse...

      Elaine

      July 27, 2011 at 2:07 am |
  42. KG

    All you people who follow the fairy tales told in The Bible and reject common sense and science can say whatever you like. Just because you say it is inspired by God, doesn't make it so. The book was written by men and translated by men, then you use the Bible as proof of it's own authenticity. I will take science over fables. And you people who think the Earth is only 6000 years old and that dinosaur fossils were placed on Earth by the devil to make us doubt God, enjoy your fantasies!

    July 26, 2011 at 10:22 pm |
    • jeff

      well said, praise be to Richard Dawkins lol

      July 26, 2011 at 10:55 pm |
  43. teremist

    In the dark ages. "science" had determined the world was flat. Science is the sum of the limits of our knowledge and understanding of our world. It is neither perfect, nor absolute, and often must "revise" some previously held theory or truth. It is my contention that the first, and last supreme scientist, is The Creator, The Lord God. All life displays evidence of design, and no life exists without it. I believe that the ability to adapt is part of the design and intelligent intent of the Creator. Humans, as homo sapiens, came late to the party. It does mean that that The Creator made us last, it does not mean that we are the only example of His designs. It is not surprising that there are some remnants in our DNA of previous designs. The question is how do those traces effect us today?

    July 26, 2011 at 10:17 pm |
    • Sybaris

      Wow! You have no clue when it comes to religion AND science.

      July 26, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
    • Nikolas

      I think maybe all those older hominins were jokes on God's part. they can't have done much having died out 4000 years before earth was created (3000 before Mesopotamia had any architecture worth mentioning). Unless they're here to test our faith by illustrating secular origin stories, the only reason for them being here is that God is messing with us.

      July 27, 2011 at 3:01 am |
    • Maya

      Prove it.

      July 27, 2011 at 8:51 am |
  44. cangriman

    Evolution Theory is so interesting; completely wrong, I think, but interesting. I'm now in my fifties and since i was a child I've seen the poor Neanderthal Man being passed through all branches of our ancestors’ genealogical tree: from being a distant ancestor, to being almost our grandfather to, like this article now, just being our great-great-great grandmother furtive lover. Of course, for some decades he was considered a completely different and extinct species, only sharing with us some common ancestor (a distant cousin, just like chimpanzees). All specimens of supposedly humans’ ancestor ever found can be carried in any anthropologist Land Rover. Some of them, are no more than have a skull or something like that. Yet, they can explain (and prove) with them hundreds of thousands of years of man’s evolution. Of course, no faith is needed for that, just pure science!!!

    July 26, 2011 at 9:49 pm |
    • Sybaris

      I'll take evolution over some invisble sky daddy creating humans out of dirt any day. Regardless, if you were born and raised in India you'd be spouting some other creation myth.

      July 26, 2011 at 10:47 pm |
    • shawn L

      Faith is for people who are too dumb to understand science and want to attribute the unknown to magic and the divine.

      July 27, 2011 at 2:43 am |
      • wakeups

        amen.

        July 27, 2011 at 2:55 am |
  45. 21k

    belief in evolution allows me to avoid the possibility that since all men are supposedly made in the image and likeness of god, and hitler was one of the more powerful humans, then he must be very close to what god is like.

    i'll take the big black void after death, thank you very much.

    July 26, 2011 at 8:48 pm |
    • Me

      Huh?

      July 26, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
      • spencer911c

        Huh? For Sure!

        July 26, 2011 at 9:32 pm |
    • GuestColin

      No 'huh' about it. Very well put.

      July 26, 2011 at 9:39 pm |
    • Roger Gambert, Palm Harbor, Fl.

      I completely agree.

      July 26, 2011 at 10:11 pm |
  46. Addicted to Neanderthal

    Well folks, I am starting Neanderthal Anonymous.

    July 26, 2011 at 8:28 pm |
  47. ludvig

    Not me. I'm pure Cro-Magnon man, man!

    July 26, 2011 at 8:20 pm |
  48. chase

    so, this is proof that blacks and whites are genetically different...

    I'm not racist, but if this is true... then it is a necessary truth that blacks and whites have significantly different genetic origins.

    July 26, 2011 at 7:40 pm |
    • candid_one

      Dude, fraternization is so basic to human nature the everyone's a mongrel.

      July 26, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
    • Bill

      Wow, you really read what you wanted to read. It does NOT indicate that white people have different genetics than black people! It suggests that SOME white humans did mate with neanderthals, while those from black heritage did not. So there is some genetic link for white humans to neanderthals, while blacks are more "purely" human!

      July 26, 2011 at 9:55 pm |
      • OomYaaqub

        Except that most African Americans have some white blood, so that they, too, may carry a few Neanderthal genes.

        Of course Neaderthals were people. We actually have no idea whethe they spoke or not, let alone their spirituality beyond the fact that they did apparently bury their dead with flowers, which suggests a belief in the afterlife. It seems to me that such sophisticated hunters must have had the means to communicate somehow.

        July 26, 2011 at 10:23 pm |
    • Simon

      Ummm... every human being is genetically different from every other human being. "Blacks" and "whites" are as meaningless terms as "blond" and "brunette". Saying to two different morphologies are due to two different genetic histories is a simple truism and it is two for every individual human being on the planet. I have a different genetic history from you and therefore I have a different morphology from you. That's what genetics is!

      July 26, 2011 at 9:57 pm |
    • wakeups

      close, but no cigar. the deal is that neanderthals came into being several hundred thousand years before us and the earth was in a different climatic epoch. neanderthals had to migrate in order for their biology/society to function properly. once homo-sapiens began to venture out of africa, many of our common ancestors encountered and interbred with neanderthals. if u want a primer on how that may have happened, read some Jean Auel. but this basic premise here is that those of us who's ancestors stayed in Africa would not have intermingled genetically with this particular breed of predecessor. that isn't to say that there wasn't some other type of inter-mingling going on, there were more than one species of the genus homo around during the hundred thousand years or so of "human" evolution. regardless, it has been observed that certain european populations may share as much as 6% of dna with neanderthals, while african populations do not. Notice "African-American" isn't mentioned here, because of the vast and commonplace co-mingling of euro and african dna. Anyhow, it is also well annotated that african dna is so widely varied that east african and west african people's are as genetically diverse as a british and japanese person. The point here is that we are all "modern" humans, all homo sapiens, all a product of what came before us, in one way or another.

      July 27, 2011 at 3:12 am |
      • Night

        I agree... the Media is spinning this story with a bias... against the African.. Just see the words they use.. 'Modern Human' left Africa.. as if these Humans weren't Sub Saharan Africans.

        July 30, 2011 at 6:31 pm |
  49. Casey

    Congrats CNN you win an award for being the dumbest atheistic crap site that anyone could ever read you foolish people.

    July 26, 2011 at 7:35 pm |
    • Brandon

      Congratulations, Casey! You win the award for the most idiotic comment!

      July 26, 2011 at 7:44 pm |
      • Casey

        Tahnks Brendon! For a gift, how about I kick you in the nuts?

        July 26, 2011 at 7:58 pm |
      • shawn L

        That's not very Christian of you, threatening violence. Oh wait, a hypocritical religious person. Who would have thought that was possible.

        July 27, 2011 at 2:46 am |
    • Atheist Dan

      Congats Casey! You win the head in the sand award! Now get back to your book of mythology otherwise called the Bible.

      July 26, 2011 at 8:42 pm |
    • Atheist Dan

      Since you're gonna kick his already will you LICK mine?

      July 26, 2011 at 8:46 pm |
    • diego

      dont you see that there is evidence !!!! the reaserch was done by people more educated and inteligent than you. you ignorant, there is dna evidence, why believe in fairs and dumb stories

      July 26, 2011 at 9:17 pm |
  50. urmutha

    Looks like Ahhnold Schwarzenhorny must have mated with Sarah Palin too, poor Maria..

    July 26, 2011 at 7:24 pm |
  51. Newo

    ha! I always said Dirk Nowitzki looks like a neanderthal!

    July 26, 2011 at 7:18 pm |
  52. Ralphe

    Too bad they didn't know Jesus. Now they're all in hell. And so are we homo sapiens because we have to put up with Christian fundamentalists.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
    • Nikola Tesla

      Recent genome testing of Neanderthals suggests human and Neanderthal DNA are some 99.5% to nearly 99.9% identical.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:51 pm |
  53. dennis

    This is all hogwash. Everybody knows we are all just monkeys. Just depends on whether you have baboon or chimp genes.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
    • suckme

      I must be part amoeba, well off i go to fuk myself! giddity giddity giddity giddity...

      July 26, 2011 at 7:30 pm |
  54. Mike Hawk

    he looks like that russian boxer Nikolai Valuev.. definitely some Neanderthal in that guy.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
    • dennis

      actually resembles Tommy Lee Jones. The eyes

      July 26, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
  55. Gary

    "The Oricle" is an idiot . . . Nothing worse than someone misquoting and misrepresenting the Bible in an attempt to promote the lies mentioned in this article . . . Let me just identify the most obvious – Angels are not sexual beings and are incapable of participating in procreation . . . Of course, I'm sure you have plenty of friends who attend the Society of Gullible Idiots and Fools meetings with you and will stand along side you in the stupid line! Just because there are a bunch of atheists posing as scientist who manipulate information in order to try and promote the idea of evolution doesn't make it so. Idiot #2, other wise known as "victim of democrat hypocrisy" seems to think evolution is a proven fact. If it wasn't so sad and dangerous for the people of the world to be so stupid as to believe in evolution, it would be funny . . . Unfortunately, it is one example of many horrible lies that are the reasons our world is in the shape it is in. Vulgarity, homosexuality, and other generally morally reprehensible behaviors are at the root of all of the ills we experience day to day. Many of you will read that and say I am a religious zealot and part of the problem, but know that truth does not change just because humans want it to. The truth is, all of the lies have a cumulative effect on our world, and that is Satan's big plan – Get the people to believe more and more lies by telling them that they can control everything and they will turn away from God. The problem with that is that people cannot control anything that really matters other than their eternal destiny – Hence the apparent success of Satan's plan, because those who do not believe in Jesus AND WHAT HE SAYS are choosing a fiery end to their being! Thankfully, you each still have a chance to choose life, yet it is your choice. Even some of you who pretend to be followers of Christ are in for a big surprise later unless you turn away from all the lies you want to believe so you don't have to face the truth of your sin and who you really are. I pray for all of you!

    July 26, 2011 at 6:28 pm |
    • Nobody N. Particular

      Not going to argue with your main point, just an observation regarding your assumption that angles didn't have sex. That argument isn't support by the Bible, in Genesis 6:4, it clearly states that the "Sons of God" took as wives, the "daughters of Men" and gave birth to the "Men of renowned" or Nephilim. It was these children and their corruption that lead to the biblical flood. So, you are obviously quoting non-biblical sources when you make the assertion that angles are asexual. BTW, why do people insist on using a book full of metaphors as an absolute document of what happened historically, its beyond rhyme or reason.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:45 pm |
      • Nobody N. Particular

        This goes hand in hand with those people who claim to see imagines of Jesus or Mary everywhere. How the heck could that be since there are no pictures, imagines, or any other physical representation of either of them. So there is NO WAY to know what they locked like, and BTW, the Shroud of Turin was dated to the Renaissance so it has nothing to do with Jesus either.

        July 26, 2011 at 6:51 pm |
    • Detroitgoth

      "Angels are not sexual beings and are incapable of participating in procreation"

      You should do more research before you start bashing somebody else. The statement you made is in fact, incorrect. Look at the second fall, which was once accepted gospel but was removed by the council of nicia as being blasphemous. Azazal and his cohorts came unto earth and took wife’s and had offspring. God punished Azazal and his minions by casting them into a pit where he would not hear their pleas until judgment day. Then and only then would they be judged for their crimes against God.

      If you are going to call somebody an idiot for not doing their research, you should do your own first.

      July 26, 2011 at 7:34 pm |
    • Atheist Dan

      Nothing FAILS like prayer!

      July 26, 2011 at 8:44 pm |
    • Debb W.

      Wait a minute. Were there not angels in Sodom looking to have sex with men? If they aren't sexual beings then... why would they be hunting for sex?

      July 26, 2011 at 9:13 pm |
    • EVOLUTIONIST

      You misguided Bible-Thumpers have faith in Jesus, while Islamists worship Mohammed, the Buddists worship Budda, etc. Evolutionists worship nothing except scientific discovery–we don't care what the answer is, but whatever it is must be backed by data–not pie in the sky hopes and wishes.

      July 27, 2011 at 1:54 am |
      • Dave

        And now to correct the correction of the previous correction... ;)

        I wouldn't say Buddhists _worship_ Buddha so much as follow his teachings and respect him as a guide and teacher. Could be a matter of quibbling over what the word 'worship' means though...

        July 28, 2011 at 8:59 pm |
  56. drrage

    My guess is that some cromagnon females were attracted to the neandertal males' ruggedness. The flip side is that neandertal females must have fed some cromagnon males a lot of fermented fruit to get them to sleep with them.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
    • OomYaaqub

      Who knows what went on around closing time in Paleolithic pubs....

      July 26, 2011 at 10:34 pm |
    • cheers

      Well, 2AM pretties are better than no pretties...

      July 27, 2011 at 6:18 am |
  57. wallace68

    looks African-American to me.

    July 26, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
    • Ezo

      No, dude. It's you allright!

      July 27, 2011 at 1:30 am |
  58. Rick

    I think I read this in Clan Of The Cave Bear...

    July 26, 2011 at 6:26 pm |
  59. Iknowmorethanyou

    I'd rather have neanderthal DNA than not have it.

    http://www.amren.com/ar/2009/02/index.html#cover

    July 26, 2011 at 5:59 pm |
    • Brian

      Yeah I agree. I guess this explains why I have so much hair on my body.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:07 pm |
    • Ledgerman

      Wow looking at that ape man and knowing you share DNA with it is a hard pill to swallow. I don't blame you for trying to turn it into a positive.

      February 28, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
  60. fuyuko

    a lot isn't known about neanderthals. For all we know, they might've been smarter than homo sapiens. Lets not judge a book by its cover. Success of a species is not necessarily indicative of intelligence. Plus, modern research suggests neanderthals were probably not dark at all. And not necessarily hairy either.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:50 pm |
  61. Kevin

    Is it just me or is the Neandetal doing a glamor shots pose? He needs something billowy behind him.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:18 pm |
    • Anonymous

      Win!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:41 pm |
    • Iknowmorethanyou

      Looks like a Blue Steel pose.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:01 pm |
    • flabbergast

      actually thats a female neanderthal. you can tell by the eyes and brow ridges.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:29 pm |
      • lMNOP

        ....and the awesome beard. Don't forget the beard.

        July 26, 2011 at 11:02 pm |
  62. Grandpa RD

    Thought of the Neanderthal in the photo...

    ***Should I get Electrolysis or just a Bikini Wax?***

    July 26, 2011 at 5:05 pm |
  63. Bill

    Good article and very educational. I do believe my ex wife had some Neadarthel gene in her because she looked just like the picture above when she woke up in the morning.

    July 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
  64. cpc65

    All the subjects that tested positive were in middle management.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
  65. Drinker

    Really? Why? I have always suspected that there are differences between the races but not that any are better than another. It's just not politically correct to discuss it.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:45 pm |
  66. 2bits

    It's useful for making racial arguments which is what most people will do with the info.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
  67. sleeestax

    Do you have any idea how hard it was to survive in the areas where Neanderthals lived? and through successive ice ages? it's no wonder they were strong and robust, perhaps sacrificing a longer lifespan for quick physical development and muscle power. To say they were smart is also a given. and they buried their dead with respect.

    interestingly, Homo erectus lived in china 1 million years ago, so neanderthals at 400K were not the first to leave africa. Modern humans seem to have left africa less than 100,000 years ago and spread over the whole earth. these other early human species were killed off or assimiliated.

    July 26, 2011 at 4:15 pm |
    • frespech

      and blah, blah, blah, maybe!!!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 4:47 pm |
      • sleeestax

        human migrations or lack thereof is closely related to climate change and ice ages with migrations and population growth happening during warmer periods. some of these periods were much hotter than today. much evidence to support this

        July 26, 2011 at 5:09 pm |
    • Grandpa RD

      Run for your lives! It's the BORG!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
    • contactlist

      The Neanderthal is a very interesting study. I have one question. How did the Neanderthal change from looking like an African to a white hairy ape like man. Did he change while living in the European caves or did he look like that before he left Africa. I guess what I'm asking is what kind of DNA produced this type of man. I heard a lot of racist theories like, baboon and orangutang DNA, mixed with human. This accounts for the various hair and eye colors. I also heard they were produced by incest and albinos, but what is the real story. Does anyone know?

      February 28, 2012 at 7:36 pm |
  68. morgan painter

    Oh crap. One of my kids has thick hair on his back and chest. Makes me wonder who his REAL daddy is.
    Damn now I wish I hadn't read this stinking article.

    I WAS a happy man a few minutes ago.

    Screw you cnn, I'm pissed now.

    July 26, 2011 at 3:58 pm |
  69. hingedlwnb

    This explains why the mullet became popular.

    July 26, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
    • pauline

      Why assume that the humans were smarter than the Neanderthals. It may have been the other way around.

      Humans may have been simpletons and the interbreeding created a more survival-able line of people. Its possible that the humans might have died out with out Neat people.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:25 pm |
  70. ringo

    And once again, why is the Neanderthal being depicted with thick lips and brown hair? They were *cold adapted*. They had thin lips. Red hair. Probably epicanthic folds.
    They probably even bathed.

    July 26, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
    • sleeestax

      impossible to know skin color unless you clone a few, but generally evolution in cold northern climates with reduced sunlight makes lighter skin to absorb vit D

      July 26, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  71. Mexicant

    Why do they only say whites and blacks came from monkey and not Mexicants?? Because Mexicants came from DONKEYS .. or burros

    July 26, 2011 at 3:26 pm |
    • Heid Theba

      I doubt if anyone could better demonstrate their genetic heritage than you – what an ass (donkey) you have shown yourself to be with this puerile comment. My apologies if you're still in grade school, the lack of sophistication in your stupid posting would then be about right.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
      • Ken

        Spot On!

        July 26, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • asrael

      You should learn to spell the name of the nationality you like so much...

      July 26, 2011 at 4:37 pm |
    • Idiot...

      And what half-baked turd do you claim as root stock?

      July 26, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
    • cheers

      your ignorance is astounding. Go away.

      July 27, 2011 at 6:25 am |
  72. frespech

    victim of hypocrisy- some examples of observed speciation would be appreciated.
    Have you heard the genetic experiment of 200 generations of fruit flies which produced nothing but fruit flies.
    That is science that flies(pardon the pun) in the face of evolution.
    But to each his own I always say.

    July 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • Donald Paul Winston

      twit

      July 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Krista

      As soon as human beings manage to live a couple million years they'll see examples the development of a new species during their lifetime on the macro scale. If you'd like you could see it on the microscopic scale in a matter of a couple years... Of course, the observer would have to be intelligent enough to understand the genetic markers linking the two species since they might look a bit different from one another, and memory fades. Oh, maybe they could find fossils to help them!

      Oh wait...

      July 26, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
  73. outawork

    How you folks get a picture of my uncle?

    July 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  74. GeorgeP

    This makes me feel like switching to Geico

    July 26, 2011 at 3:04 pm |
    • Nokha

      This makes me feel like switching from Geico to some other company.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • Kwai Chang

      Nice!

      July 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
  75. driranek

    The dude in the photo looks an awful lot like my boss...

    July 26, 2011 at 2:51 pm |
    • Levi

      LOL NICE
      +1

      July 26, 2011 at 3:17 pm |
    • OnTheRoad

      Looks more like my boss's wife!

      July 26, 2011 at 3:21 pm |
      • Penny

        Gee, I was thinking it looked like an ex-boyfriend of mine. He's got the hairy features, anyway...

        July 26, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
    • Your Boss

      Get back to work.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
      • I'm Just A Girl

        @ Your Boss and the guy who said it looked like his Boss. LOL Classic. Made me smile! I love it when people choose humor over being racist. Boo racism and intolerance.

        July 26, 2011 at 8:57 pm |
    • Subba Choudhry

      Do we work for the same boss????

      July 26, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
  76. Jimmy Cracorn

    So what their really saying is that while we white Europeans enslaved blacks in the past because we thought we were superior, in reality it is the opposite. HAHA What a bunch of a holes we are.

    July 26, 2011 at 2:48 pm |
    • Zebula

      Actually we are smarter because of the divesity. Now it's proven.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
    • Brian

      You have to be smart to survive ice ages.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:16 pm |
  77. Ginger

    You all are too funny. Keep it going please.

    July 26, 2011 at 2:39 pm |
  78. theox

    It's junk DNA! So let's sweep it iunder the rug because if we don't, it might hurt some people's feelings.

    July 26, 2011 at 2:35 pm |
    • jheron

      Actually an even more recent study points to having more body hair as being attributed to Neanderthal genes. Hardly junk genes.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      It would only hurt the feelings of bigots.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:29 pm |
  79. james

    I wonder if those Neanderthals's decendent are facing extinction like great great.....parents

    July 26, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
  80. davon

    In otherwords.. what we consiter a true "human" is only black ppl. Whites and Asians are hybred humans/neanderthals... i bet thats where we get our skin color.

    July 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • kilovolt

      What article were you reading?

      July 26, 2011 at 2:17 pm |
    • Anu

      The first Modern Humans were middle eastern.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:36 pm |
    • mahkara

      I'd argue that Neanderthals are humans...there doesn't seem to have been a huge difference between them and Homo Sapiens.

      But, yes, since the gene that codes for red hair has been found among the Neanderthals, it's highly probable that they did look racially white. (Fairer skin, hair, and eyes.)

      July 26, 2011 at 4:05 pm |
    • Brian

      You are right about hybrids however there has been reverse migration back into Africa. So to identify a population that had no DNA from the other types of humans would be difficult I would think. The recent scientific breakthroughs on the background of humanity has proven would most people already thought. There are differences between races and some seem to be significant. This is a good thing because genetic diversity is a key to survival of humanity overall.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:21 pm |
  81. DD

    LOL. Another pseudo science article from the bastion of enlightenment.

    July 26, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
    • chris

      sounded like it had some scientific roots to me!

      July 26, 2011 at 2:22 pm |
    • Zebula

      Yeah cuz saying some invisible man made us out of clay sounds so much more believable...

      July 26, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
    • Jack

      This was also published in National Geographic's website – and they don't publish pseudo-science.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
      • cangriman

        Is NG our new Bible?

        July 26, 2011 at 9:21 pm |
  82. The Oricle

    This is not new news..even the bible speaks of this. Neanderthals mated with albino africans, who were called lepers. They fled from persecution, and hot climate into the mountains of eurasia where they met the neanderthal and while there the offspring was visited by the fallen angels(aliens) who gave them the knowlege of weapontry.and how to build civilations and conquer african empires..and enslave the Hebrews(the 12 tribes of Jacob).the neanderthal/albino african human also mated with the fallen angels because they were intelligent and beautiful..and that is how you got the white race..Esau/Jesus from the bible is their god..the brother of jacob. Hebrews were black people at that time and so was the egyptian empire..until The white race/arab took it all from them..till this day....and only the god of jacob can give it back to the original 12 hebrew tribes who are not people of neanderthal/albino african/fallen angel decent..who are all caucasians/arabs/and asians..but this is your history and mine...

    July 26, 2011 at 1:56 pm |
    • kilovolt

      I want some of what this one's been smoking.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:02 pm |
      • Penny

        Count me in on that one...that makes two!

        July 26, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
    • Get Real

      The bible spoke of this? Since when did the bible have any say on events 50,000 years ago? According to the bible, the Earth is only 6,000 years old.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:05 pm |
      • petercha

        Get Real – Do you have a Biblical chapter and verse reference on that 6,000 (or any approximation thereof) figure?

        July 26, 2011 at 2:19 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        The Bible says no such thing. That whole 6000 years old garbage was based on ludicrous suppostions like counting the
        Begats" and assigning an average life span to each generation. Their assumption was that every person born in these lines was noted in the Bible and lived the same length of time. It is an interpretation of the Bible and not the Bible itself. This interpretation is not scientific and those who believe it do not trust science. It had died out for decades until the Fundamentalist movement of the yearly 20th century. They are really the ones who push the idea that the Bible in, usually, the King James Version is a better guide than science. This radical kind of Fundamentalism is uniquely American. I was raised in such a church; which is where I first learned that learning can get your ass whooped and disagreement leads to threats of HeII and incarceration in a Baptist boarding school where what my mother did to me would have seemed mild by comparison. People who will not look at the science and realize that when a large percent of them agree it is worth looking into. They are a danger to American society in creating children filled with hatred and bigotry or who become a burden on the health care system because they cannot cope after a brutal childhood. They will not allow their children to get a real education and that is brutal for the economy. The US is already behind the rest of the developed world in education and, instead of practicing innovation, big business off shored jobs. Part of this sits directly on the lack of reasoning skills in American Youth.

        July 26, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
    • jay willetoski

      Yeah, but you notice, they can't spell worth a damn!!!

      July 26, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
      • The Oricle

        improper spelling and grammar doesnt make the truth any less true..by your logic you will accept lies all day as long as it's spelled correctly..LMAO

        July 26, 2011 at 2:28 pm |
      • The "ORACLE"

        Don't worry buddy. I dont believe people who can't spell either!

        July 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
    • Dan

      Maybe we should consult the Oracle about what he says?

      July 26, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • petercha

      Sorry, Oricle, your Bible knowledge is a bit off. "Lepers" were those who had various skin diseases, not just leprosy; the term did not indicate one's ancestry. The Hebrews, according to the Bible, were descendants of Noah's son Shem (that is why they are now called Semites); they were not African/black. African people, according to Scripture, were descendants of Noah's son Ham, and the rest of us, from Europeans to Russians to Chinese, etc., were descendants of Japheth. See Genesis 10 and 1st Chronicles 1 for more info.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
      • Talexa

        You are incorrect. Check that Bible again. Noah cursed Ham for what he did, God didn't curse Ham. A person "cursing" someone does NOT change their race. God created each and every race on the sixth day and he looked and it was good, very good. Our particular race is in our DNA. People have "mixed" since His creation but each and every race was created by God and that is why they are all still here today. There are a lot of different races out there not just 2.

        July 26, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
      • The Oricle

        The illuminati has been beating that biblical drum of lies forever..truth is stranger than what you think you know..who conquored the bible and it's people and changed it to his own liking hmmm???...certainly NOT the conquored people.

        July 26, 2011 at 2:25 pm |
      • petercha

        Talexa – I didn't mention anything about anyone cursing anyone else. Where did you get that from? You might be confusing that with God's curse of Cain, but the Bible doesn't say what exactly "the mark" was that God put on Cain, so we don't know what it might have been. In any case, it's irrelevant, since all of Cain's descendants were wiped out in The Flood (Noah and his family were descendant of Seth, a different son of Adam).

        July 26, 2011 at 2:44 pm |
      • petercha

        Oricle – You reference the Bible in your original post as though you believe it was factual, and yet in this most recent post you are saying that it is a "drum of lies". Which is it? If you believe the Bible to be true, then your most recent post is in error. On the the other hand, if you believe it to be lying, your original post is in error. You've just shot your own argument in the foot.

        July 26, 2011 at 2:49 pm |
      • Talexa

        I was wrong about who was cursed. And I was not thinking of Cain. It wasn't Ham that Noah cursed it was his son. Genesis 9:24And Noah awoke from his wine, and knew what his younger son had done unto him. 25And he said, Cursed be Canaan This did not create a race. Ham "uncovered his fathers nakedness". Leviticus 20:11 And the man that lieth with his father's wife hath uncovered his father's nakedness:
        This resulted in Canaan and Noah cursed him "a servant of servants shall he be unto his brethren"

        July 26, 2011 at 3:03 pm |
      • The Oricle

        @Petercha YES the illumini push their lies in the bible, yet they keep the truth in it hidden..for example..you dont see the word alien in the bible..but you do see the words fallen angel, or talking serpent all in it...one is a lie and the other is the truth but they are talking about the same thing..they keep the truth hidden through words..you dont see neanderthal in the bible but you you do see beast..and who is going to be taken down in the end of revelation? The Beast who is a man..sounds like the description of neanderthal and their kind..,also defeated will be the serpent/dragon which ARE alien and his kind which came to earth....but all this noah crap was totally planted...even athiest know better than to believe in that story..

        July 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • Gette

      WOW... You need to share some of your wacky tobacky... That or pick up your Lithium prescription.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:50 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        Not Lithium. All that does for me is keeping me from rapid mood changes and from writing long and abusive posts against those who are against science or are shoving religion at everyone. Now weed might provide moments of amusing stupidity. Booze is more likely the problem. No other drug makes people that obnoxious and lacking in compassion. Listen to a drunk argue. It is just like these people. Illogical, arrogant, and close minded. I was raised in a Baptist Church so have actually tried it out and found it to be abusive so I am not close minded. I tested the water and found it foul.

        July 26, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
    • Caveman From Texas

      You lost me there.

      July 26, 2011 at 6:19 pm |
    • cheers

      Your village called... (they want their idiot back). What a moron you are! You cannot even spell your name....

      July 27, 2011 at 6:36 am |
  83. Diane

    It is amazing that it took this long to prove what seemed to be apparent. It is interesting that two species who left Africa so many centurys apart would produce the modern man of today.

    July 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
  84. Neanderthal at heart

    I'm not surpised there was inter species breeding, after all, men will mount pretty much anything. It also provided the ooportunity for the best traits to be passed along to future generations: Cro Magnon contributed intellect and Neanderthal contributed politics and football.

    July 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
    • mofoman

      That's some funny stuff right there...pitiful but damn funny. I VOTE FOR U FOR PREZ...he's only funny-looking.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:57 pm |
  85. VoipOfReason

    I started reading this article until it said "Research says modern humans of non-African heritage "... which means none of us. As genetic research states that ALL LIVING HUMANS can trace their genitic heritage to Africa. So, thanks for a pointless article, about non-existant humans.

    July 26, 2011 at 1:45 pm |
    • Josh

      Not all of us have parents who came from an African country.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
      • OomYaaqub

        Josh, if you go back far enough your ancestors indeed came from Africa, since our entire species originated there.

        July 26, 2011 at 10:28 pm |
      • Josh

        OomYaaqub, I only have to go back just ONE generation to find my parents.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:24 am |
    • tommas

      I think they mean have other heritages besides african... ie people today whose ancestors left africa and went into Europe (where the neanderthals were). Your right, >40% of americans don't believe in evolution so they should probably be more careful in their wording.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:52 pm |
      • Seraphim0

        I'd be curious as to where you got that greater than 40% number. If it's anywhere other than an evangelical study, I'd be surprised.

        July 26, 2011 at 3:24 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        Fundamentalists are likely to overstate how many people do not believe in science just as they overstate how many Americans are Fundamentalists.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
      • tommas

        According to a 2007 Gallup poll,[127] about 43% of American believe that "God created human beings pretty much in their present form at one time within the last 10,000 years or so." This is only slightly less than the 46% reported in a 2006 Gallup poll.[128]
        -wiki quote, but it gives refs.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:53 pm |
    • Charles

      You're just being a dick though. If humans left Africa 250,000-400,000 years ago and the interbreeding occurred 50,000 years ago then it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the math.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:53 pm |
    • Wayne

      Scientists have been wrong before. You may be related to Africans, but I'm not. Neither are most "non-black" people.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
      • Charles

        250,000 years ago, there's no guarantee that Africans were "black". Their appearance would be a direct result of the environment at the time, which was likely different than it is now. In 9500 BC the Sahara was a rich environment rather than the dry desert it is today.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
      • frespech

        Cmon get serious- That's Joe Frazier in that picture – Evolution my behind!!!!

        July 26, 2011 at 2:42 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        It is disappointing to see people take offense at the idea that they might have African genes or that that line of descent may have been smarter than the rest of us. So what? The borderline racism is disquieting in a, supposedly, scientific topic.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • kilovolt

      Charles is closest to having it correct. 400,000 years ago, humans from Africa were likely not dark-skinned. Those humans populated most of the world as a new set of humans evolved in Africa. That is the group without Neanderthal DNA. Of course, if you believe the world is only 6,000 years old and you are not descended from early Africa, then why are you reading CNN's science blog?

      July 26, 2011 at 2:07 pm |
    • EmptySkull

      It appears the concept of timeline and branching eludes you

      July 26, 2011 at 2:58 pm |
    • Zebula

      I believe "modern" is the operative word here. Try again.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:22 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Everyone is out of Africa via earlier forms of what would become the human race, better called the human species as race is about something else. There is no contradiction in following the genes back before the 2 precursors of what we call humanity. The "people" who became the Neanderthals left first and thousands of years before the next take on the creature occurred. Neanderthals and Cro magnons are not races. They are species unless you want to call all primates races.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
      • OomYaaqub

        If they were separate species they could not produce viable offspring that could also reproduce. So if we have Neaderthal genes, then by definition we are at most subspecies, not separate species.

        July 26, 2011 at 10:31 pm |
  86. Boru

    Professing themselves to be wise they became fools...

    July 26, 2011 at 1:43 pm |
    • Razor

      No evidence anywhere that Neanderthals existed likely a gorilla

      July 26, 2011 at 2:08 pm |
  87. Kris

    The Neanderthal in the picture has a sort of "gayness" about him

    July 26, 2011 at 1:30 pm |
    • L

      Very true!

      July 26, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
    • Josh

      I guess that is where THOSE genes came from too.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:51 pm |
    • petercha

      If he was, how did he pass those genes on? Kinda difficult for two guys to have a kid, last time I checked.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:54 pm |
      • Josh

        Some girl got the him drunk and had her way with him.

        July 27, 2011 at 7:25 am |
    • CalgarySandy

      It is fairly easy for gay people to have babies. Just because they are gay does not mean they cannot have sex with the opposite sex. They just don't want to. Maybe they were not so polarized back then. Maybe they were all pansexual, not being harangued by the Christian Right about immorality.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
  88. StClown

    I'm guessing the hairier the man, the more Neaderthal DNA he has...

    July 26, 2011 at 1:11 pm |
    • SAY WHAT!!!

      I thought the article was research done on tea party members. Anyways, to the author of this article – you don't have to go any further than a tea party gathering to know that Neanderthals are still alive.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:25 pm |
      • petercha

        Wow, hate much, Say?

        July 26, 2011 at 1:44 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        Hate? So now it is hatred to disagree with the politics of others? I think that is the kind of stupid extremism that is tearing the US to pieces as we speak.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:17 pm |
    • Josh

      Yep.

      And pen1s size too.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:50 pm |
  89. Old Fool

    Neanderthals are alive and well in the 21st century. They have been the lynch mobs, the supporters of policies of regimes like the third reich, the supporters of "intelligent" design and the schoolyard bullies of generations of humans who continue to move us in the direction that made them "extinct." It is the Neanderthal-lite of today that gave us 8 years of GW Bush when 4 was more than enough. It is these neo-Neanderthals who would dissavow the veracity of science simply because they dont understand it. Yes, Neanderthals are still here. Unfortunately we give them the right to vote.

    July 26, 2011 at 1:03 pm |
    • AtomicP

      well said.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:10 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      How's that "hopey-changey" thing working out for ya, fool?

      July 26, 2011 at 1:17 pm |
      • SAY WHAT!!!

        Better than the the bush tax cuts and trickle down economics you blind Neanderthal.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:27 pm |
      • Aubrie

        Yeah... the hopey changey thingy turned out to be nothing but salt in a wound.... I'll take the trickle down any day, after this political farce and fiasco.... And to think I was a democrat for 20 years.... Man have my eyes been opened...

        July 26, 2011 at 1:59 pm |
    • Neander

      Don't be unfair. We ate roots and rabbits, and built fires and hid our children away in caves when the giant bears and sabertoothed tigers came around. We hit the tigers with big sticks, and we buried our dead with flowers. It was you small people who came by the dozens with your spears and arrows, hunting us like meat, not the other way around. You called us Esau, the hairy man, and you stole our birthright from us.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:06 pm |
  90. Wobbles

    Neanderthals are not extinct. The Speaker of the House is proof positive that the species is alive and kicking.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:57 pm |
    • tommas

      I wonder is neanderthals cried liked babies?

      July 26, 2011 at 1:57 pm |
      • Rainbow

        Neandertals did not have vocal cords

        July 26, 2011 at 4:06 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        I would like a source for the view that Neanderthals had no vocal cords. I don't believe a full and intact corpse of one has been found. Vocal chords are soft tissue. I want the source because I could be wrong. At any rate, millions of animals, birds, fish and reptiles communicate without them through vocalizations, tone, face, and body language. They use color seen in moving feathers around or becoming exactly like the sea floor where they are. They can change these things rapidly. Birds are particularly adept at non-verbal communication.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:24 pm |
      • cheers

        only when they did not get their way..

        July 27, 2011 at 6:40 am |
    • Mike B.

      You mean neandrathals were coloured ORANGE ???

      July 26, 2011 at 3:19 pm |
  91. SaySaki

    Feeling like a Neanderthal? Here's why.....Because you are one!!!!

    July 26, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
  92. Rob

    @ sumday: Sounds like you read that book Orion by Ben Bova.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:44 pm |
    • Neander

      I know him! Nice guy, interesting ideas.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:11 pm |
  93. StephensB

    I want to see a long form birth certificate first !!!!!!!
    Seriously though , in the long , geological time line , the Neanderthals may be considered as much more successful that the human beings of today . They were a successful species for tens , possibly hundreds of thousands of years before we came along ( maybe 30,000 years ago ?? ) ..... and the way we are going ..... we aint' going to be around much longer . Homo Sapiens are on the fast track to extinction .

    July 26, 2011 at 12:42 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      I blame the muslim extremists.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:06 pm |
      • Aubrie

        Generations of inbreeding caused that...... Look it up... It's sickening...

        July 26, 2011 at 2:01 pm |
    • kilovolt

      Homo sapiens is believed to have been around for 500,000 years, not 30,000.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:15 pm |
      • frespech

        30,000-100,000- 300,000- 2 1/2 million whos counting if you just add enough 0000000000000 it makes everything possible.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
  94. alsmeer1

    Neandrethal? evolution? HA if you want to claim coming from them...that is fine. but I was created and born of God. Inteligent Design.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:41 pm |
    • cdgfla

      Blind faith in a book written centuries after the death of Christ? Sure count me in. Science, Schmience! JESUS IS LORD! God you people are truly terrifying.

      July 26, 2011 at 12:51 pm |
      • slinky

        you're trying to use facts to confuse people! stop it!

        July 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
      • Old Fool

        You are right! "God" is the easy answer to many difficult questions. Unfortunately it is not the right answer and those who have defaulted to this answer make sure the entire class flunks the test. Everytime our elected officials try to mark this test on a bell curve the curve is more U shaped. The curve is down and so are we. On August 3rd we all start to experience the consequences of this failure.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:13 pm |
      • frespech

        66 writings by 40 some authors over a period of 2000 years and not all after Christ.
        This is not a 5th version of Harry Potter you Hobit.
        Try and be a little more informed before making a comment.
        nanu-nannu

        July 26, 2011 at 2:40 pm |
    • Vex Anderson

      omfg, get fvcked. god would have created the laws of physics and his creation, although not god himself, would be bound by those laws, which may have even included the big bang and evolution.
      god forbid that we should assume to understand HOW god created existence. for you who refuse to ask, you should keep yer closed-mindedness to yerselves. assuming to know HOW sh!t was created, by reading yer magic book is pathetic and simply incorrect. the bible never sed "with a wave of his magic wand, everything was created, so there"

      July 26, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      Then your god must be a moron!

      July 26, 2011 at 12:55 pm |
    • eric calderone

      I am a devout christian, but I must say your response is quite foolish. All existence depends on God, but that does not rule out evolution. Evolution is a hypothesis which presents a means by which species develop and die off. There is nothing in the doctrine of evolution that conflicts with God as the Supreme Being, the Creator.

      Moreover, you misspelled the word, "intelligent."

      July 26, 2011 at 12:56 pm |
      • victim of democrat hypocrisy

        Evolution is a proven fact, not a hypothesis. Speciation has been observed. Existence does not depend upon ANY creation myth, current or ancient.

        Oh, BTW there are no gods or goddesses, demons or devils, ghosts or goblins. Religion was invented by man to control the masses.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:12 pm |
      • Rachel M

        "Evolution is a proven fact, not a hypothesis."

        It is both, actually.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:20 pm |
      • Razor

        On the contrary Eric the bible does rule out evolution think again And to those that think evolution is more then theory get your heads out of the sand mainstream modern science does not agree with the evolutionary theory just no evidence of it whatsoever

        July 26, 2011 at 2:12 pm |
      • jheron

        Razor, no head in sand here....Genetics seems to only re enforce evolution as does archeology. Not sure where you get the " There's no evidence" B.S. If you think others are buried in the sand, your head must be safely locked away in a titanium safe or on one serious denial kick.

        July 26, 2011 at 3:20 pm |
      • Craig

        And yet you believe in a fairy tale that some big magic man in the sky is going to bring you up to an oasis called heaven? And you have an issue with evolution? WOW.... Society is doomed due to idiots like you.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      The creation mythology of the Great Mutant Cosmic Star Goat is just as valid as your Yahweh-Elohim creator.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
      • Grandpa RD

        MAN, I love this line of thinking. The concrete-brained religious idiots that believe the fiction written in a book BY PEOPLE is the so-called gospel truth make me weep. I suppose some folks actually think they MUST be human lemmings and follow churches and saints and prophets and such PEOPLE. PEOPLE! PEOPLE!!! THERE is that ever-present word again yet again, you fools...LOLOLOL!
        I'm disgusted that even in this modern day and age there are still followers of religion. Has no one figured out that it was all about control of the rabble way back when? The POWER to make people fear an "Almighty Being"? Citizens Toeing the line as mandated by the ones with the current power? Catholic Church? Hebrew Temples? Muslim Faith?
        It's all power, stupid! Somebody EFFIN' BRILLIANT came up with the original idea a LONG time ago to create the first COSMIC MUFFIN that will STRIKE YOU DOWN if you don't kowtow and pay your hard-earned bucks to some phony fund or other controlled by guess who...
        Yeah, the one with the current power to f u c k you over and laugh like hell!
        Wise up, folks... we don't need this kind of crap anymore! Be Men and WOMEN and stand up for yourself, you sheeple!

        Dave

        July 26, 2011 at 4:54 pm |
      • Nikolas

        We'd still be on Goglafrincham if it weren't for the damned Giant Mutant Space Goat. Of course I'm glad we aren't what with the piranha bees and it having crashed into our old sun.

        July 27, 2011 at 3:21 am |
    • Rachel M

      Were neanderthals created by God?

      July 26, 2011 at 1:19 pm |
    • pennswoodsman

      and how holier thou art

      July 26, 2011 at 1:42 pm |
    • Noah

      God is aware of all things and in control of everything. If he created us in stages, how does it change anything? You could see it as random meaningless coincidences, or something that is intentional.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:00 pm |
    • tommas

      You have no soul, your brain is it. There maybe a personified being that set the laws of our universe... But in the great vast magnificent universe why would it care about a bunch of pink monkeys, let alone if they worship it?

      July 26, 2011 at 2:23 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      You paint a very scary picture of God. People who claim to love God should be studying his creation and how he did it not refusing to look beyond your fear of HeII..

      July 26, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
    • sean b

      "Intelligent" has two L's. And it's "neanderthal", not "neandrethal". Looks like not much intelligence went into YOUR design.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:36 am |
  95. Rob

    Yeah, I think Neanderthals were people. They could throw a linebacker through a wall and had larger brains than us but that does not exclude them from being persons I think. They burried their dead with flowers, traded with other peoples, had arts and crafts, and probably made fart jokes around the fire.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
  96. joepa

    They have been saying up until now that there has been no link remaining to the Neanderthal. Now all of a sudden most of the worlds population has a little Neanderthal in them? Something stinks like something I can't say here but it's initials start with B and end with S.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:38 pm |
    • jackson

      Bullshits?

      July 26, 2011 at 12:45 pm |
      • Carol

        Hahahaahhaah. Jackson, I laughed out loud.

        July 26, 2011 at 12:59 pm |
      • vanity

        LMAO jackson! you made my day!

        July 26, 2011 at 1:36 pm |
      • joepa

        You got me jackson, that was a good one. Oh well. At least I had the class not to lower my post to yet ANOTHER opportunity for the Liberals and Conservatives to spar with one another. That got old about a thousand articles ago.

        July 26, 2011 at 1:48 pm |
    • jheron

      BS...Better Science?

      July 26, 2011 at 3:09 pm |
    • CalgarySandy

      Please, look into the Genome Project that has been going on for a while. It takes time to sort things out. Science, unlike Fundamentalists, have little difficulty saying "We were wrong. This is what we have found to date." It is a subject that requires continual study as nothing is simple. If you are so dim you do not get that all studies are progressive and the point is to keep trying to be objective you are likely in the right place: A Church full of other people who are as ignorant and completely disinterested in learning anything at all except memorizing the Begats; which I did to win a contest of verse memorization. I earned a white Bible. Wow.

      July 26, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
  97. Joe in Colorado

    Neanderthal DNA gave me a bigger weewee than our African counterparts.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:29 pm |
    • Rachel M

      That's not what I've heard.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:21 pm |
      • CalgarySandy

        You heard wrong.

        July 26, 2011 at 4:31 pm |
  98. sumday

    I know this will be laughed at, but I think Neanderthals were smarter than us. They had bigger brain capacity, better smell, and better eye sight. I think they were "spiritually" well more advanced and could communicate telepathically with "God/aliens/ect" they didn't build things bc they were "1 with nature" and didn't need to build things. The bible talks about a "fall" that lead to physical death. I take this to be more of a "de-evolution" were we lost our ability to communicate telepathically with God, each other, and animals. This de-evolution took us from being "1" with everything and lead us to being "alone" or simply with "self". Just like everything in physics I think we went from a "higher" state to a “lower” state. From being one with everyone to being selfish and self serving- of course many will say that selfishness is what made us smarter/more advanced but I don't really believe everything I hear.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:28 pm |
    • victim of democrat hypocrisy

      Um, I think you think too much. The neanderthals didn't have any written fairy tale you call "the bible".

      July 26, 2011 at 1:01 pm |
      • cangriman

        OH! You're sooooooo smart! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

        July 26, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
    • rosemary

      No, I am not laughing at your ideas and find them very interesting. We have now entered the information age where science, technnology and expotential creative ideas are surfacing, one of the best will be the deciphering of the brain. Human beings will be forced into a position of flowing their spirtual beliefs combining reality – the genome project is the key.

      July 26, 2011 at 1:05 pm |
    • Jim

      Sumday, interesting theory. Can I have some of whatever you've been smoking?

      July 26, 2011 at 3:43 pm |
    • Atheist Dan

      What Kool-Aid are you drinking??? They were most likely as intelligent as us, but hate to breake it to you, not more so. Your cute romantic little notion of them being "one with nature" is BS already. If they were so "one with nature", they would not have built spears, stone tools etc. The fact they built tools proves they did build things, so that shoots your rediculous nonsense down. Lay off the Kool Aid...

      July 26, 2011 at 8:51 pm |
    • sean b

      You are 100% correct that you will be laughed at.

      July 27, 2011 at 7:48 am |
    • Iamjustsayin

      No the Neanderthal gene is what took you away from your oneness with God. The Neanderthal Gene is what corrupted you and made you warlike.

      April 27, 2013 at 3:28 am |
  99. pat

    So, was a Neanderthal a person?

    July 26, 2011 at 12:24 pm |
    • slinky

      they are classified as either Homo sapiens neanderthalensis (subspecies of Homo sapiens) or as Homo neanderthalensis (separate species). My guess would be the subspecies, since there was interbreeding that produced viable offspring.

      July 26, 2011 at 12:52 pm |
    • eric calderone

      Neanderthals are a kin species to modern humans, Cro-magnon man. We are classified as homo sapiens sapiens whereas Neanderthals are homo sapiens.

      July 26, 2011 at 12:58 pm |
    • Keith

      Didn't they live in bear caves? I'm a bear, both homo and hairy :-) although some question my humanity and speak poorly of my personality. Maybe I can pray away the hairy part.

      July 26, 2011 at 2:10 pm |
    • Neander

      They didn't seem to have much language but they were certainly smart enough to think ahead. They carried a spear in case they met a lion, instead of looking for a sharp stick when they met a lion. They probably had names, even if they were Ug and Blek. So they were people.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:28 pm |
  100. Josh

    Neanderthal's junk DNA is what gave "modern" man his hairy chest.

    July 26, 2011 at 12:23 pm |
    • jheron

      correct...but modern European man.

      July 26, 2011 at 3:05 pm |
      • jason

        Asians and Amerindians as well... oh wait.

        July 27, 2011 at 2:04 pm |

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