Scientists find signs of ancient man-made fire
Scientists have uncovered remnants of an ancient fire, at least 1 million years old, at the Wonderwerk Cave in South Africa.
April 2nd, 2012
03:00 PM ET

Scientists find signs of ancient man-made fire

You may be clueless about how to start a fire in the wilderness without matches or a lighter, but our ancestors may have figured it out long ago.

Scientists have uncovered evidence that humans used fire at least 1 million years ago, potentially for cooking purposes. The findings are published in the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

Michael Chazan of the University of Toronto led an investigation into the Wonderwerk Cave in South Africa. The team found burned bones and ash plant material, including grasses, leaves and twigs. The bones originated from a variety of animals: small rodents, antelopes and horselike mammals.

"The evidence that we have is compatible with low temperatures of cooking, but it’s a little bit too early to be sure" if these early humans were cooking or not, said Francesco Berna, research assistant professor of archaeology at Boston University, and lead author of the study on the findings published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences.

It's possible that the early humans ate raw meat and then threw the bones into the fire, Berna said. Scientists need to investigate further to prove that, indeed, they ate cooked meat.

The findings support the conclusions of a 2011 study led by Harvard researchers suggesting that the human ancestor species Homo erectus, which walked upright and had a smaller brain than our species, could have cooked its food. Homo erectus has smaller molars than its evolutionary predecessors, which could be because it was adapted to a cooked food diet as early as 1.9 million years ago.

Berna and colleagues also found small hand axes and other tools made out of stones in the cave, which is about 460 feet deep. About 98 feet in, they found the evidence of fire. There's no evidence that the materials they found were burned outside and then brought into the cave, or that a wildfire could have spread from the surrounding area into the cave.

"I don’t think there’s any doubt that humans and fire were there at the same time," Berna said.

Prior to the new findings, scientists had good evidence that humans had total control over fire at least 400,000 years ago, Berna said.

The researchers' next steps are to excavate more to see whether they find any clues about cooking, and potentially re-analyze other sites in East Africa and Europe.

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  1. 2bits

    A million years ago we made fire. Today we make Radiation. In a million years we will make antimatter that will accidentally escape and blow us all up!

    April 4, 2012 at 9:12 am |
    • Spock

      Isn't that what was already supposed to happen at the LHC? I seem to recall a lot of hoopla about a black hole swallowing us when it was powered up.

      April 4, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • doughnuts

      We've been making anti-matter for a couple of decades. In a million years antimatter will be ancient technology.

      April 4, 2012 at 9:44 am |
      • The_Mick

        We haven't been making anti-matter for "a couple decades." When I was in college in the 1960's I learned anti-matter had first been man-made and identified in the 1930's. By the 60's or 70's at the latest, it was being made and stored in magnetic "bottles" where the big mystery was why, instead of leaking out of the bottles through the magnetic "walls", it was leaking out from the center of the bottles!

        April 5, 2012 at 3:42 am |
    • Anark E

      We never made fire. We just learned how to use it.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:39 pm |
      • RG Dubz

        EPIC FAIL

        Man discovered fire..

        How does an article with a headline like this even get published?

        April 4, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
      • lunchbreaker

        That's like saying no one has ever "made" a cake, they just learned how to assemble ingredients.

        April 5, 2012 at 9:12 am |
      • Clay Vollers

        That would be the differance between "discovery" and "invention". The atricle says "used", not "dicovered", not "invented", not "made". Actually "read" the words that are printed...

        April 8, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
  2. LIP

    I just wasted ten minutes of my life reading this dribble...get a life

    April 4, 2012 at 9:09 am |
    • torion

      I would suggest a reading class if that took you 10 minutes

      April 4, 2012 at 10:08 am |
    • DD

      The article is educational and enlightening. So many people today have little depth or interest in science.

      April 4, 2012 at 10:18 am |
      • Damon

        Agreed. It's very unfortunate.

        April 8, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
    • Bob

      It took you 10 minutes to read this??

      April 4, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • Alex Eastman

      it appears as if you spelled "I need to learn how to read" wrong

      April 4, 2012 at 8:43 pm |
    • Big Marcus

      I'm sure that if you look, there is an article on Jessica Simpson that may be more your speed.

      April 5, 2012 at 11:31 am |
  3. Dillon

    Why do "atheists" always equate intelligence with a rejection of belief in the supernatural? I think being a free-thinking person should be enough. In most cases, it seems right and just to reject antiquated, oppressive, hateful, and outright fascist forms of religion... in fact, the case for not subscribing to ANY religion in very strong. But why assert so confidently that there is no God? No Gods? No higher order to the universe? One can be spiritual, nonreligious, and intelligent simultaneously.

    April 4, 2012 at 8:44 am |
    • ravs

      Simple, we scientist rely on this little thing called proof. There is no proof of god. Thats why its so easy.

      April 4, 2012 at 8:48 am |
      • voxx12

        God never said it was easy... God made you to believe.. You can NOT believe in nothing you can't do it because God made you that way.. You say God is not real or You don't believe in God... HEY! but that is what you BELIEVE..

        April 4, 2012 at 9:17 am |
      • Sybaris

        voxx12 said, "god made you to believe"

        That doesn't even make sense because we are all born atheists.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:36 am |
      • Mark

        ravs...

        "Simple, we scientist rely on this little thing called proof. There is no proof of god. Thats why its so easy".

        Your comment made me laugh. You're no more a scientist than Fred Flinstone. If I'm wrong, please provide proof. Please list your credentials. Where did you study? What's your area of expertise? Do you have a PhD in anything? (besides bulls–t).

        As for your "lack of proof". That's simply your OPINION. I look around, and I see lots of proof. It's all a matter of perspective.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:41 am |
      • Sybaris

        Mark, please list your proof and provide empirical evidence for it.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:46 am |
      • voxx12

        Scientist will NEVER have proof of God.. The proof will be when it is to late..

        April 4, 2012 at 10:00 am |
      • Primewonk

        " Scientist will NEVER have proof of God.. The proof will be when it is to late.."

        Any god worth his or her salt claims supernatural powers. This takes this being out of the natural realm and into the supernatural realm. Once it leaves the natural realm, science doesn't deal with it any longer. It is no longer falsifiable. And if it isn't falsifiable, it isn't science.

        By the way, in science we don't prove things, we explain things. Proofs are for maths and ethanol.

        April 4, 2012 at 10:11 am |
      • themayan

        "Simple, we scientist rely on this little thing called proof. There is no proof of god. Thats why its so easy"

        No knowledgable scientist would ever use the word "proof". Most scientist no better and use the word (evidence), and in this case there is much evidence. The problem is that the weight of the evidence depends greatly on the subjectively and or open-mindedness of the observer regardless of whether the observer is a scientist or laymen.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:07 am |
      • mcewenpe

        "No knowledgable scientist would ever use the word "proof". Most scientist no better and use the word (evidence), and in this case there is much evidence. The problem is that the weight of the evidence depends greatly on the subjectively and or open-mindedness of the observer regardless of whether the observer is a scientist or laymen."

        Well said.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:11 am |
      • Primewonk

        " The problem is that the weight of the evidence depends greatly on the subjectively and or open-mindedness of the observer regardless of whether the observer is a scientist or laymen."

        The problem is not with scientists. It is with the fundamentalists who choose to be ignorant. Right on the AIG website they state, " By definition, no apparent, perceived or claimed evidence in any field, including history and chronology, can be valid if it contradicts the scriptural record. "

        This may be an acceptable way to practice religion, but in science it is not allowed.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
      • Proof

        Scientists rely on a little thing called proof, and there is no proof of God...true. But there is no proof of no God either. To be an true Athiest requires just as much faith as the most devout Christian, Muslim or Jew. If you don't believe in having faith in something you can't prove, then you cannot be an Athiest.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:08 pm |
      • RG Dubz

        Belief is something you have in things that don't exist.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
      • waitasec

        @Mark
        "It's all a matter of perspective."
        and your perspective is of course, the right one... right?

        [rolls eyes]

        April 4, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • Gadflie

        Mark, I have a B.S. in Geology and another in Biology. And, you obviously don't understand the concept of "proof". While ravs was incorrect, science relies on data, not proof, you were more incorrect in pretending that there is "proof" that God exists. There isn't even any data supporting this (data from a scientific perspective).

        And, the argument that there is no proof that God doesn't exist is nothing but a logical fallacy known as "Negative Proof".

        April 4, 2012 at 8:22 pm |
      • Alex Eastman

        for those of you saying science cant prove it wrong guess what, your wrong!
        First of all evolution happens and in the bible it says otherwise we have proof that the earth is older than 6 or 7 thousand years and many more things that dispute what your bible says. and if the bible is is to be taken as the literal word of god and as Christianity's "theory" so to speak then if these parts of it are wrong that means in science the entire thing is wrong. but if you want christians can revise their bible... but wait that would mean either it wasn't the inspired word of god or that god wouldn't be infallible, so i guess your still wrong. Oh well sucks to be you then doesn't it

        April 4, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • Frederique

      Um, it isn't "atheists" who are equating intelligence with a lack of religious faith, it's the preponderance of scientific research, surveys, and other studies that show a statistical difference between the two groups: Those who profess having no religion (including atheists, agnostics, and other non-faithful) have, on average, statistically higher intelligence (e.g., based on IQ tests) than those who are claim to be religious. Believe me, if the science didn't support the claim, atheists wouldn't be making it.

      April 4, 2012 at 8:54 am |
      • Dillon

        IQ tests? Really? You mean WHITE PEOPLE TESTS? Anthropocentric, Orientalist understanding of the way the world operates

        April 4, 2012 at 8:59 am |
      • doughnuts

        Dillon, go squeeze your crystals somewhere else. "Anthrpocentric"? What else can they be? We are all human, so any test of human intelligence is going to concern humans. "Orientalist"? If you are talking about "white people" don't you mean "Occidentalist"?
        You don't even have a clue as to what you are conplaining about.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:50 am |
      • Nissim Levy

        Dillon, I seem to recall a foot race between a cheetah and a man and the cheetah won the race but the race was setup to favour cheetahs because it measured speed and therefore the test was cheetahcentic because by favouring speed in a foot race we are biasing the results towards cheetahs.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
      • zeyn2010

        Seems logical! :)

        April 4, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • oddlyenough

      Oddly curious what ancient man from a million years ago has anything to do with a theological debate?

      April 4, 2012 at 10:19 am |
    • Sybaris

      the mayan said, "The problem is that the weight of the evidence depends greatly on the subjectively and or open-mindedness of the observer regardless of whether the observer is a scientist or laymen."

      Now you know why atheists look on the faithful the same way subscribers of one religion scoff at subscribers of another.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:22 am |
    • LT7890

      there isnt proff of GOD ,,, just FAITH , and thats all that matters , thats what you need.

      April 4, 2012 at 6:07 pm |
  4. daniel medovich

    I believe in God, aka a superior higher power. I believe in evolution. And I don't believe in Adam and Eve and all that crap you hear.

    I think someone made this universe. But that all religions are wrong... nobody knows who's God, but there IS god. Becuase if you're an atheist and think there isn't a superior power above us, well then , congrats because you're pretty dumb.

    April 4, 2012 at 8:19 am |
    • ravs

      Let me ask you wise guy, what makes you think your puny little human brain has the creation of incredible complex universe figured out? Your theory is simple isn't it? " wow look at this universe, ohh there's evolution and all this scientific stuff, somebody must have created it " The fact that you think other people are dumb for not believing in your simpleton ideas is arrogant and really shows people you have no idea what your talking about. I bet within 4 questions I can have you completely concede your argument makes no sense.

      April 4, 2012 at 8:45 am |
      • Shayna

        We know we don't have all the answers, but we are not afraid to say, "I don't know". That eliminates the need to make up fairy tale answers.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:50 am |
      • justuandme

        Exactly, ...What Shayna said. Thumbs up.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:01 am |
    • justuandme

      I do not believe in a god and I do not believe in evolution. There is no facts to support either just hypotheticals. This is just my own belief... that every religion was created by their kings or other higher ranking member of society at the time. Each created their own book of rules to suit their needs respected (religious book). And just like in the dark ages people were more easily duped to follow and believe anything more easily over a thousand years ago. Look at present day you wonder how so many can be so stupid in this present day.

      Evolution? What a load of BS. The search for the missing link? it never existed but people think everything is supposed to be wrapped neatly in a bow to explain life mysteries. We want to believe but the fact is life just happened. Its as simple as that - no evolution. Yes some species do adapt to the environment but not to the extent where we are able to link our beings from water to land or apes.

      April 4, 2012 at 8:52 am |
      • Frederique

        You REALLY need to visit a natural history museum, as the evidence for long-term evolution, even HUMAN evolution, is overwhelming and being added to nearly every day.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:56 am |
      • Dillon

        You have an extremely reductionistic perspective on religion. Sure, systems of belief have been used to control and coerce and subdue people in the past but so has.... capitalism for instance? jfk conspiracy theories? Religion isn't just a way of controlling people but a way of understanding reality that is unique to different cultures and individuals. Sometimes you can empirically prove it wrong... sometimes not. Anyway... approaches to science are completely entrenched in a Euro-centric discourse/mentality that is uniquely counterproductive to understanding other cultures

        April 4, 2012 at 8:58 am |
      • Cedar Rapids

        uh huh, so you dont believe in god or evolution? so what does that leave then as your theory of how man came to be?

        April 4, 2012 at 9:07 am |
      • justuandme

        Ok I let me be clear Evolution that we some how we evolved from lower life form from water to land to where we are now. Never happened!

        April 4, 2012 at 9:14 am |
      • Primewonk

        " The search for the missing link? it never existed..."

        Let's start slowly and work our way up to try and figure out what you mean.

        Please post your definition for "missing link". And include the science-based website you are getting it from.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:28 am |
      • justuandme

        I have one better Prime. Prove me wrong?

        April 4, 2012 at 9:32 am |
      • Primewonk

        " I have one better Prime. Prove me wrong?"

        Again, you stated there was no missing link. I simply asked for your definition of "missing link", and the scientific website you are getting this definition from.

        Is there any specific reason you are unable or unwilling to do this?

        April 4, 2012 at 9:37 am |
      • justuandme

        Okay I see you are playing games ...Prime. Just as I thought. Like I said prove me wrong... lets here what you have to say. Don't hide behind the cloud.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:46 am |
      • justuandme

        here=hear*

        April 4, 2012 at 9:46 am |
      • justuandme

        correction here=hear*

        April 4, 2012 at 9:47 am |
      • Primewonk

        " Okay I see you are playing games ...Prime. Just as I thought. Like I said prove me wrong... lets here what you have to say. Don't hide behind the cloud."

        Prove you wrong how? I have no idea what you personally mean by "missing link". That is why I keep asking you for your definition, and where you are getting it from. I fail to see why you are unable or unwilling to do this.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:53 am |
    • James

      "IF you think there isn't a superior being above us then congrats you're dumb." Well gee when you put it like that, you sound like a 3rd grader arguing on the playground. So we're all dumb because you said so lol Don't insult everyone's intelligence on here. You have no proof and neither do we. No need to be an @ss wipe about it.

      April 4, 2012 at 9:31 am |
      • justuandme

        So you believe in religion because someone told you to? I am not trying to bash your religion here. I am trying to make a point. And how did you come to believe in your respective religion-On your own research, family values, faith, gut instinct? .. can you explain?

        April 4, 2012 at 9:35 am |
      • zeyn2010

        I don't understand why we are constantly criticizing people who would rather think someday EVERYTHING will be explained by SCIENCE! Why the rush to judgement before we know how stuff in the universe works? Why do some try to push the idea that 'some' things cannot be explained? WHY? Is it because it is mysterious and exciting to imagine? Even if there is a superior being(s) who created us, why are people telling us they cannot be explained? We have matching stories of creation across the continents where gods promised to return – why not look at it logically – maybe they were superior beings and maybe they will come back...

        April 4, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
  5. martog

    Ten Reasons You Know you are an Atheist.
    1. You were likely brought up a theist (probably a Christian if you live in the USA) and had to do your own thinking to rise above the beliefs that still occupy the mind of the believer. This usually involved being smart and working hard at school and college so as to get a good, accurate view of the natural Universe and overcoming significant social pressure to dumb yourself down and conform. In short, you had the guts to ask the hard questions and the brains to spot the weak answers. The more you came to understand the Universe, the less reason there was to believe in a god and the more you came to appreciate human nature, the more you understood why billions of us still do.
    2. While rejecting the supernatural elements of the Bible, you nevertheless retain a large amount of the morality taught today by mainstream Christianity. To the extent you reject Christian morality, it is where it is mean spirited – such as in the way it seeks to curtail freedoms or oppose the rights of $exual minorities. In most other respects, your basic moral outlook is indistinguishable from that of the liberal Christian – you just don’t need the mother of all carrots and sticks hanging over your head in order to act in a manner that you consider moral.
    3. You know a great deal more about the Bible than most believers. This is because you took the time to read it yourself and did not rely on the primary-color simple stories you learned in Sunday school. You have also probably done some research into the historical Jesus and have a good handle on where he REALLY fit in to the broader picture of the Middle East at the time. Needless to say, his miracles and other magic powers soon started to look pretty unlikely.
    4. Your knowledge of basic science and history is much stronger than that of your average believer. You likely have a basic working knowledge of physics, astronomy, evolutionary biology and cosmology and a good idea of the history of life on this planet. This acc.umulated knowledge puts you in a position to judge the claims of the Bible in a critical light and they are almost always found wanting. To the theist, this makes you “elitist” and ‘arrogant”.
    5. You relish your role as a religious minority in the USA, as this gives you an impetus to fight and you understand how others with unpopular, but doubtlessly correct views have felt throughout history. There is something altogether satisfying to you about having a deep conviction you are right and being viewed with disdain for your views by the errant majority. You feel a quiet confidence that future generations will look back on you as a member of a class of trailblazers, as religious supersti.tions go into inevitable decline in popularity.
    6. You are likely more environmentally aware than your theist friends and colleagues and unlikely to fall for claims of industry and wind-bag politicians concerning the impact of man’s activities on the environment. You could no more act in an environmentally irresponsible manner because “god will keep us safe” than you could jump of a ship, believing King Neptune will keep you safe.
    7. You generally have a live and let live atti.tude, but will fiercely defend any attempts by theists to thrust their views on you or your children, directly or through control of school boards, the legislature or the executive. While you are prepared to debate and argue passionately with the theist on an intellectual level, you would never wish them harm or ill will. You know you are likely to be smugly told you will “burn in hell for all eternity” for your healthy skepticism. This highlights what you despise about religion, as you would not wish a bad sunburn on another, simply because they have a different religious view to you. You have never heard of an evolutionary biologist strapping a bomb to himself and running into a church yelling “Darwin-u akbar”.
    8. You likely know more about other religions than your average theist. This makes you less fearful of them and enables you to see parallels. You realize that, if you were born in India, you would have been brought up with a totally different religion. You realize that every culture that has ever existed has had its own god(s) and they always favor that particular culture, its hopes, dreams and prejudices. They cannot all exist and you see the error all faiths make of thinking only theirs exist(s). This “rising above” the regional nature of all religions was probably instrumental in your achieving atheism.
    9. You likely have a deep, genuine appreciation of the fathomless beauty and unbelievable complexity of our Universe, from the 4 nucleotides that orchestrate every aspect of you, through to the distant quasars, without having to think it was all made for you. You likely get more out of being the irrelevant ant staring up at the cosmos than you do in having to pretend that it was all made to turn in majestic black-and-white pirouette about you.
    10. While you have a survival instinct, you cannot fear death in the way the theist does. You know that the whole final judgment story, where you may be sent to hell if you fail, is Dark Ages nonsense meant to keep the Church’s authority. You also know that you were dead for 13,700,000,000 years before you were born. It is impossible for you to fear death, for the simple reason that you know the capacity to fear (or to feel pain or discomfort) itself dies. You will not even know you are dead. Fear of death is as meaningless to you as is the fear of a vacuum, the fear of not being born. You feel a lot more secure, and indeed a deep comfort, in this knowledge, than you would in trying to yoke yourself to some quasi-hope that every part of your intellect tells you is untenable.

    April 4, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • Oakspar

      Top ten reasons that atheism is a religion:

      1) Because they state that the reason they are right is because everyone else is wrong.
      2) Because while they state their beliefs are based on logical empiricism, there is no actual evidence for their claims.
      3) They feel the need to preach their beliefs and try and convert others.
      4) Because their justification for preaching their beliefs is that those beliefs will improve the lives of those who convert if they only believe in the truth they are teaching.
      5) Because they respond emotionally, usually with ad homen insults, at anyone who challenges their beliefs.
      6) Because all of their beliefs are based in having faith in what they have read in books.
      7) Because they claim an absolute truth.
      8) Because they use those beliefs to condemn or justify moral actions (often in terms of open and closed mindedness).
      9) Because their beliefs primary purpose is to make themselves feel chosen, special, or enlightened over the lost masses who are ignorant of their ultimate truth.
      10) Because they are willing to sacrific money, energy, and time to the promotion of these truths without any hope of gain from them.

      A true athiest who believed in his own atheism would want everyone else to be a theist in much the same way that a greedy person wants everyone else to be generous or a liar wants everyone else to be truthful. His insight would only work to his advantage if others were decieved. Otherwise, he would be just like everyone else.

      No, rather, most athiest today are like a teenager experimenting with drugs – happy to pass it around, because the more people doing wrong with him, the less he feels responsible for his own poor judgement.

      April 4, 2012 at 11:53 am |
      • mcewenpe

        Hmmm. Looks like Occam's Razor takes care of some of the ten. The Straw Man fallacy takes care of the rest.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
      • waitasec

        there is no actual evidence for god....deal with it,

        April 4, 2012 at 2:00 pm |
  6. martog

    Top Ten Signs You're a Fundamentalist Christian
    10 – You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.
    9 – You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.
    8 – You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.
    7 – Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!
    6 – You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.
    5 – You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.
    4 – You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs – though excluding those in all rival sects – will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."
    3 – While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.
    2 – You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.
    1 – You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history – but still call yourself a Christian.

    April 4, 2012 at 7:04 am |
    • n2it

      Amen! Brilliant analogy.

      April 4, 2012 at 7:27 am |
    • Mik

      nice

      April 4, 2012 at 10:40 am |
    • Canadian

      Very well stated!

      PS If Atheism is a Religion then not-smoking is a habit!

      April 4, 2012 at 2:01 pm |
      • Actually

        Actually by definition Atheism is a religion "a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects". Sorry, and not smoking is a good habit, bald is a hair style. And no I don't believe in any specific god/gods or religion, they are all wrong, and in some ways, they are all right.

        April 4, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
      • Raymond

        a·the·ism   /ˈeɪθiˌɪzəm/ Show Spelled[ey-thee-iz-uhm] Show IPA
        noun
        1. the doctrine or belief that there is no God.
        2. disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings.
        --------------------------–
        Origin:
        1580–90; < Greek áthe ( os ) godless + -ism

        Atheism is not a religion. Atheism is a lack of religion or belief in a supernatural power. Personally, I was raised in a christian family growing up. I believe that religion is a way for people to find common moral laws to abide by. And you can call it coincidence, but the only person in my family that truly believes is the one out of all of us who makes the least money, who has the lowest education, and probably the lowest IQ. I hate to say it, because it's my own mother, but it's true. Also, most of us that are actually atheists don't care if you believe in god. We accept your beliefs the way they are, do we think you're wrong? Yes, but don't you also think we're wrong? That is where the matter of opinion comes in.

        Religious people use the argument, how did everything come into existance without a greater power. My question back to them is how did your God come into inexistence? Was there a power above him that created him, hence an infinite loop of higher gods. Your belief in how God came into existance is the same belief I have for everything else came into existance, it's always just been there. To try and even fathom how is beyond our capabilities as the third most intelligent species on this planet (Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference btw for you other geeks who couldn't place it).

        All and all, I don't really care whether or not any of you believe in a god or don't believe in a god. Your existance and impact on this world will have little to no impact on my lifespan. Honestly, those out there who think like me won't even bother responding to this as they know, being as apathetic as most of us are towards others, i won't even bother to come back and read the replies.

        April 4, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
  7. noteabags

    According to christian fundamentalists, people have only been around for a few thousand years.

    April 4, 2012 at 6:58 am |
    • coder

      yeah – those folks also burned women at the stake, conducted the crusades and stifled scientific discovery for a thousand years

      April 4, 2012 at 8:26 am |
      • ravs

        Your talking in the past tense, they are still trying to stifle scientific discovery, unfund education, push creation science in schools, unfund social safety nets that protect the weakest in our society, impose their religious views through federal law. They want this world on its knees so they can give them hope through a new theocracy of unquestioned rule. Dumb em' down, starve em', make them less than human, and they are ripe for salvation.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:08 am |
      • SixDegrees

        Well, no, not technically. Fundamentalist is a relatively new phenomenon with its roots in the late 19th century and US southern Baptists. Most of the behavior you mention occurred before the Reformation in the Catholic church. And for what it's worth, the Catholic church has reformed itself nicely with regard to science, and has never had an issue with evolution. It tends to see science as revelatory of God's creation, and actually sponsors a significant amount of research, particularly in astronomy.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:17 pm |
  8. magneticink

    If they keep digging, they'll find evidence of the first department store: Spears.

    April 4, 2012 at 6:24 am |
  9. Tobias

    Unfortunately, religious people gets more children and so there is a very real chance that the number of religious people will continue to rise in the future.

    April 4, 2012 at 5:08 am |
    • erutnev

      On the other hand there is a lot more movement from belief to non-belief than in the other direction. So even if they are out-breeding non-believers, non-believers are out-converting them.

      April 4, 2012 at 6:53 am |
  10. Monkey Man

    Of course they did, didn't you watch the flintstones?

    April 4, 2012 at 1:43 am |
  11. Memo

    Yes, they cooked, but they only knew how to make taffy. Everything else came much later.

    April 4, 2012 at 12:45 am |
  12. Billy

    Just a note for evolution junkies => According to religious beliefs (and if God exists), there is only a fixed number of species. Every thing works in the Lords's control. Else after billions of years we would have life which would have evolved into something Super-Super-Super Intelligent. But there is none. The Universe undergoes cycles of birth and death. Everything remains more or less the same. (Unless you are protected by a True Master...)

    April 4, 2012 at 12:44 am |
    • Gadflie

      You assume that intelligence is the ultimate evolutionary "goal". There is nothing to indicate this. In other words, your ignorance is showing.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:21 am |
      • mema

        Actually that is exactly what the theory of evolution suggests. That intelligence increased over time. Its your ingnorance that shows.

        April 4, 2012 at 5:31 am |
      • fimeilleur

        @ Mema,

        What version of the theory of evolution are you reading? Evolution = Change over time... common ancestry...

        April 4, 2012 at 6:40 am |
      • Bob

        There is no goal in evolution. Do you think our ape ancestors had any idea of how babies came about? What were they, biologists? The baby apes were a product of having fun (notice in America I can't use certain words). Evolution happens – there is no goal.

        April 4, 2012 at 7:47 am |
      • Primewonk

        Mema – Evolution is simply a change in the frequency of alleles in a population over time. There is no goal in evolution, no direction. It's just about surviving long enough to pass on your genetic material to fertile offspring.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:05 am |
      • Cedar Rapids

        "mema – Actually that is exactly what the theory of evolution suggests. That intelligence increased over time"

        It does no such thing, not even close.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:13 am |
      • Moo

        //Actually that is exactly what the theory of evolution suggests. That intelligence increased over time. Its your ingnorance that shows.//

        Due to environmental selective pressures acting on the genomes of isolated populations. Not because a larger frontal lobe is the ultimate evolutionary goal.

        April 4, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
    • jc

      I am not sure I fully understand the point of your post. A fixed number of species is not simply a religious belief. Unless the Universe is infinite, there would logically be a finite amount of anything it could produce. Also, compared to life that existed billions of years ago, one could say any human being is relatively "Super-Super-Super Intelligent".

      April 4, 2012 at 2:31 am |
      • Bob

        I've heard of grammar police but now we have math police? What's this world coming to.

        April 4, 2012 at 7:49 am |
    • Jim in PA

      We have evolved into advanced intelligence. We can send men into space on rockets and we have split the atom. Cro-magnon could not have done those things. Why do you presume that we have not advanced intellectually?

      April 4, 2012 at 10:08 am |
  13. heroicslugtest

    In the beginning, Man created god.

    This was hereafter known as "the first big fúckup".

    April 4, 2012 at 12:03 am |
    • Clint

      :-)

      April 4, 2012 at 12:06 am |
    • Carlos

      Any good recipes?

      April 4, 2012 at 12:11 am |
  14. Peter

    Wow! Nice cave! The 1% of cave people probably lived in this.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:22 pm |
  15. TG

    Man was created by Jehovah God in 4026 B.C.E., (and not evolved millions of years ago) and the first man was given the name Adam.(Gen 2:7; 3:17) He was endowed with perfect abilities, for he was created perfect, without a flaw.(Deut 32:4) His perfect mind was superior to our imperfect minds, which we received due as a result of sin due to his rebellion in the Garden of Eden.(Gen 3:6)

    He lived to be 930 years of age (Gen 5:5), whereas we may live to be 70 or 80 years and then death ensues (Ps 90:10). Our lives are approximately 1/13 of his. Yet our Creator, Jehovah God, had intent of Adam, Eve and their offspring living forever on a paradise earth. For Adam and Eve, this is no longer true. However, for Adam's offspring, this has not changed.(Ps 37:11, 29; Mat 5:5; Luke 23:43)

    April 3, 2012 at 10:43 pm |
    • Adam

      Who was the fastest person in the history of the world?

      Adam...

      because he was the first in the human race...

      April 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
      • Clint

        That's actually pretty funny. Good one.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:07 am |
      • B

        Lol now that was funny.Dont matter what you believe in..

        April 4, 2012 at 12:08 am |
    • Harvey Wallbanger

      And isn't is amazing how God made all of those rocks millions of years old. Give me a break!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
      • coca-kola

        their not millions of years old, there about 6000 years old, give me a break

        April 3, 2012 at 11:34 pm |
      • Carlos

        Look, someone should wake up and read THE SCIENCE OF GOD by Gerald Schroeder.
        No conflict of Adam being created over 5711 years ago and dinosaurs a million years ago.

        A fascinating read.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:17 am |
      • ckelley116

        Wow, coca-kola. You used the same word twice, spelled it two different ways, and neither spelling was the correct one. Your brilliance is staggering. Of course, your opinion must be the right one.

        April 4, 2012 at 7:12 am |
    • Keith

      You are a goof ball.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:10 pm |
    • Rob

      Nope cause Ireland was first settled 9,500 b.c.e.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • doop

      wow. quoting a book strategically put together by man (council of nicea) to disprove science. well played, zealot. you'll probably have more success quoting 'the firm' to back a law dispute.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:16 pm |
      • mema

        Doop isnt the theory of evolution also written by a man. And isnt it a theory. If man evolved where is the fossile evidence? No not the few fossiles that are some form of extict ape. There should be tons of fossiles from the first life forms to current man. But instead there are a hand full of fossiles they claim became man. Besides if man had been here for millions of years our population would exponentially be much much greater that it is at present.

        April 4, 2012 at 6:33 am |
      • fimeilleur

        @ mema,

        Please educate yourself before you post stuff on a science blog... I suggest you learn what scientists mean when they use the word Theory (think gravity)... Secondly, please provide your credentials qualifying you to distinguish between "extinct ape fossils" and "ho mo er ectus fossils" and "ho mo habilis" and the nine other transitional ancestors found in the fossil record.

        Another poster recently described the unwillingness to use the same terminology as scientists like this: let's use the words "to know", it can be defined as "to recognized someone", it can also be defined as "to sleep with"... I'm sure you can agree with both these definitions, right? Bible says so...

        Mema, do you know your mother?

        April 4, 2012 at 7:25 am |
    • Wait a Second...

      The Bible is a collection of folklore. While it has beautiful poetry, epic heroes, and rich prophecies contained within, it is folly to take it by it's letter. It is the spirit of the books that inspire people and evoke faith. I appreciate your knowledge of verses and the "creative mathematics" you've cited, but while it may have been the "Word of God" at one point man got a hold of it and shifted it to meet his needs. It's a bunch of stories and has little or no place in serious scientific discussion. Using the Bible to refute scientific observation is the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and screaming, "I'M NOT LISTENING!!!!"

      April 3, 2012 at 11:30 pm |
      • coca-kola

        no, its not folklore and it is just as relevant today as it ever was. You believe in evoution and you term it science. But, it is a false science, and you ve been duped.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:37 pm |
      • Carlos

        Hey, someone should wake up and read THE SCIENCE OF GOD by Gerald Schroeder.
        No conflict of Adam being created over 5711 years ago and dinosaurs a million years ago.

        A fascinating read. might make you a believer.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:16 am |
      • Carlos

        Waitaminute. someone should wake up and read THE SCIENCE OF GOD by Gerald Schroeder.
        No conflict of Adam being created over 5711 years ago and dinosaurs a million years ago.

        A fascinating read.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:18 am |
    • coca-kola

      why would you use the ungodly dating of b.c.e. instead of b.c.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:32 pm |
      • heroicslugtest

        Well I'd take the "ungodly" version of something any day, but I want to know how the letter "E" wronged you.

        Did that episode of Sesame Street traumatize you when they mentioned dinosaurs as an example of "Extinct"?

        Yeah, dinosaurs are a test. I know. Put here by the devil itself and we should just ignore them.

        I hope to the gods you are a troll, and that nobody is actually so willfully ignorant.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:48 pm |
      • Clint

        No, unfortunately, some people really are that ignorant. Some day, all humans will wake up. I fear it will be long after my death.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:05 am |
    • heroicslugtest

      Silence, prim. That literary trash has no place in this world. Don't read the "Good Book", read a good book.

      If you must quote such a book, try "Foundation" by Issac Asimov (a writer that I know existed).

      "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent!" – Salvadore Hardin, on the First Seldon Crisis

      April 3, 2012 at 11:41 pm |
      • hawaiikaos

        Asimov had more wisdom in his pinky finger than all the Biblethumpers who ever lived combined. Unfortunately, I fear you're preaching to a brick wall, but keep up the good fight.

        April 4, 2012 at 5:35 am |
      • Mark

        "If you must quote such a book, try "Foundation" by Issac Asimov (a writer that I know existed)."

        No, not really. You see, it's been proven over and over that Asimov never existed. The stories about him were created by people much later. It's a fact, because I've researched it. It's a fact that all the works attributed to him were forgeries. Yep, Asimov is a completely mythical figure.

        This willful ignorance isn't as hard as I thought it would be.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:57 am |
    • JW

      so very true thanks for sharing that, we all need to be reminded that God created everything and everyone!
      He even created the cave people, animals, etc, all created and only by GOD. None else.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:11 am |
      • heroicslugtest

        An omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being created everything and everyone, but has never even so much as dropped by for tea?

        The statistical significance that 'Harry Potter" is based on a true story is an order of magnitude more likely.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:16 am |
      • James

        Unless you are a non Christian right?

        April 4, 2012 at 9:43 am |
    • Serena

      How did you get jehovH from yhwh? Someone called you bg you would not respond rather be annoyed

      April 4, 2012 at 12:11 am |
      • mema

        Serena actually many scolars believe it is a correct tranalation that yhwh is Jehovah. Understandably because the scriptures were written in hebrew which did not contain vowles. So it is translated just as all other words from hebrew text have been.

        April 4, 2012 at 6:43 am |
    • Stan Iverson

      Does science even comprehend what "one million years" truly means? They come up with these ridiculous figures and expect the world to blindly accept it as "science". I suggest that scientists have no clue when it comes to time spans like these. It is all speculation and very non-scientific!

      April 4, 2012 at 12:24 am |
      • Rob

        Yes, you can estimate how old things are because of radioactivity and sedimentary rock. Radioactive atoms like carbon-14 (used to date things <50,000 years old) decays at a constant rate, so based on how much carbon-14 is left in organic material you can figure out how long ago it was around. For iron ores and certain rocks, there you can measure the presence of other radioactive atoms like uranium-235 and potassium-40, these atoms have very long decay cycles (called half-life...time it takes to decay 50%) and can be used to date things that are millions of years old. furthermore, you can look at layers of sedimentary rock, it's pretty unlikely that something that is just a few years old could end up entrapped below X layers of sedimentary rock. Hope this is helpful. I respect the bible for many of the values it seeks to inspire in people, but I don't think it is meant to be taken literally.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:20 am |
      • Gadflie

        How exactly is it "non-scientific"? Oh, that's right, you have trouble counting past ten so you assume that anything larger than that is speculation.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:23 am |
      • john

        just because it blows YOUR mind must we all be ignorant?

        April 4, 2012 at 3:52 am |
      • Chika

        @Rob, the only way we can say something is a "million or billion years old" is to have something that we know for a fact is a million years old,( i.e a rock) then you can properly gauge carbon 14 testing. so in other words carbon 14 testing is whats called an "uncontrolled" experiment. No man has been alive long enough to measure the half life of anything thats older than civilization ( uranium-235 and potassium-40). The problem with your info is that there is no true way to prove it and you take it with blind faith based on a your belief of whichever guy sounds the smartest. I repeat, no matter how smart you think a scientist is, he cant truely tell you how old anything is unless he was there at its creation or birth. Thats common sense at in its purest form. You cant determine the age of an organism or object unless you have one that you know is for sure (X years old) to gauge your test with. thats Science 101.

        April 4, 2012 at 4:40 am |
      • Rob

        @chika, you don't need to have measured the carbon-14 content one million years ago to know it is 1 million years old. Do you understand how carbon dating works? Please spend 5 minutes reading: http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/earth/geology/carbon-141.htm
        Pretty simple to estimate how much carbon-14 there should be in an organism.

        April 4, 2012 at 5:36 am |
      • yanr

        Actually, science does not ask you to "blindly accept" anything. That would be the definition of faith, and it is what is expected in Religion. Science requires proof and evidence before anything is accepted.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:21 am |
      • James

        HAHAHAHAHA "rabble rabble rabble, I DON'T UNDERSTAND SO IT MUST BE FALSE!!! rabble rabble, IT'S NOT SCIENCE SO I DON'T BELIEVE IT...EXCEPT I BELIEVE THE BIBLE....IT'S DEFINITELY SCIENTIFIC"

        LMAO pick a side. If you need scientific proof than you can't be a bible thumper.

        April 4, 2012 at 9:45 am |
    • sanjosemike

      Why are you quoting this drivel? I know you actually BELIEVE it. That is the most shocking aspect of your post.

      sanjosemike

      April 4, 2012 at 2:19 am |
    • john

      Emm Hmm, stories and fairy tales... Santa Clause, the Easter Bunny, all fit the same category... Should we also believe in Magic? Because that's about what spiritual jargon amounts to.

      April 4, 2012 at 3:50 am |
  16. dmen

    1 million years ago used fire to cook. 500 thousand years before previously thought. Pretty cool. Sad to read that there are so many people who still don;t believe in evolution. Scary! It's not a theory, folks. Just like the "theory" of gravity. It's a fact based on observation and objective research that been proven true time and again. People don't realize that thay might as well say that the earth is flat!

    April 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • Been There

      So you're saying we have had a million years to evolve and this is as far as we have gotten.......Sad!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:35 pm |
      • Clint

        Just think how much farther along we'd be without religion, pretty sad huh?

        April 4, 2012 at 12:09 am |
    • joshua

      Exactly so

      April 3, 2012 at 10:44 pm |
    • Harvey Wallbanger

      Discovered fire one million years ago and invented BBQ by dinner time on the same day

      April 3, 2012 at 11:12 pm |
    • Keith

      You are as ignorant as the Christians

      April 3, 2012 at 11:14 pm |
    • Carlos

      Someone should wake up and read THE SCIENCE OF GOD by Gerald Schroeder.
      No conflict of Adam being created over 5711 years ago and dinosaurs a million years ago.

      Check it out.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:19 am |
      • Noah

        Stop pushing that stupid book. I read it, it didn't make me a believer, but it did make me laugh hysterically. Schroeder is a hack and an idiot.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:34 am |
  17. Don

    Just out of curiosity, if "you people" claim the universe is only on the order of thousands of years old, then how is it we can see celestial objects on the order of billions of light years away from us?

    April 3, 2012 at 10:26 pm |
    • heroicslugtest

      Shh... Don't mention the Starlight Problem.

      They're christians for Buddha's sake! They can't do science!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      Apparently, God spends a vast amount of effort lying to his creation.

      April 4, 2012 at 3:17 am |
    • Mema

      Don most Christians believe it is man who has been here for now over 6000 years not the universe. No one knows how long the universe has been here. But whether its millions or billions or more than that in of itself does not disprove that all things were created. If science had some actual proof than man evolved then where is it? A fossil here one there is not proof. There should be fossils from the earliest life forms to present. But instead there are a few fossils that resembled an extinct ape form and does not resemble a man. Scientist do not need to find the missing link, if evolution is factual there would be hundreds if not thousands of fossils of different variations until it became man. Thats a whole lot of links, where are they? They do not exist!

      April 4, 2012 at 7:16 am |
      • Primewonk

        Mema, you wrote, " There should be fossils from the earliest life forms to present. But instead there are a few fossils that resembled an extinct ape form and does not resemble a man. Scientist do not need to find the missing link, if evolution is factual there would be hundreds if not thousands of fossils of different variations until it became man. Thats a whole lot of links, where are they? They do not exist!"

        This shows that you have chosen to be ignorant about science. First life was unicellular. How would this fossilize? We have fossils dating back 3.5 billion years. Sadly, you do not understand just how rare fossilization is, or how it works.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:25 am |
      • Rob

        Prime you just missed the point entirely and I agree... There is not one single shred of evidence that states we are evolved from apes.

        April 4, 2012 at 10:47 pm |
  18. Calvin Hobbes

    Do any of the bones appear to be purposely cracked for their marrow?

    April 3, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Z

      Evidence of bones cracked for marrow far predate 1 million years.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:40 pm |
  19. robert

    Analysis of human teeth and digestive system conclude we originally evolved to be mostly vegetarians, but not entirely, due to the canine teeth, which is used to tear flesh.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:41 pm |
    • Gadflie

      Sheep have more convincing canines than we do.

      April 4, 2012 at 1:25 am |
    • SixDegrees

      In other words, we remain what we have always been: omnivores.

      April 4, 2012 at 3:19 am |
  20. Nissim Levy

    Big deal, so they cooked meat over a million years ago but they were still clueless that red wine goes with red meat and white wine with fish.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:23 pm |
    • Been There

      Touche`

      April 3, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
  21. Newcenturion

    I guess a million years from now an archeologist is going to dig up a microwave oven and conclude humans of our era were to stupid to figure out how to make fire to cook food and stay warm.

    April 3, 2012 at 9:14 pm |
    • sybaris

      Or read your post and be dismayed at the incorrect use of "to".

      April 3, 2012 at 10:19 pm |
      • Nexus

        Or be dismayed to relized that "to" means cthulu or some other deity you dumb s41t

        April 3, 2012 at 10:30 pm |
      • Newcenturion

        Or maybe they would dismayed at your run-on sentence in your earlier comment: "Meanwhile back at the Creation Museum in Petersburg Kentucky Norman is changing the dates on the Adam and Eve display." Try inserting commas in there, smartboy.

        April 3, 2012 at 10:38 pm |
    • sanjosemike

      A million years from now, humans won't exist on earth. ET will do some archaeology, using radio-active dating and will determine that Muslims ended the human species due to their Shi'a vs. Sunni wars.

      April 4, 2012 at 2:24 am |
    • john

      They'll probably wonder why on earth we radiated our food before we consumed it...

      April 4, 2012 at 3:58 am |
  22. Saffrondog

    A fanatic is one who can't change his mind and won't change the subject. Winston Churchill

    April 3, 2012 at 9:06 pm |
  23. Ja-Coffalotte

    We were grillin' about 25 million years ago, except in Texas, that place is only 6,000 years old according the genius Governor.

    April 3, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  24. hecep

    There's this really old guy who lives down the street from us. I saw him start a trash fire once. Does that count?

    April 3, 2012 at 8:53 pm |
  25. xpert siantsist

    Humans didnt hav fire a millun years ago...dey ate bugs.. Foraged in da dirt..I know cuz my granpappy tode me so! Passed down from his granpapy.. Theez siantists, they don't no wut dey sayin... They wernt here..

    April 3, 2012 at 8:47 pm |
  26. hecep

    1,000,000 years? Sure feels that way to me whenever I try to get the barbecue going right.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
  27. J-Man

    Simple and truthful answer here, NO. People weren't here a million years ago. The earth has been here less than 10,000 years. You can track it in the bible. You know the phrase, "In the begining God created the Earth"? Well keep reading and it gives you a chronology that you can follow up until Jesus (year 0). I forget the actual number but think it is between 6,000 and 8,000 years old. Man has been cooking since being kicked out of the Garden of Eden (I think that is when he started to eat the animals). Laugh if you like but 76.5% (159 million) of Americans identify themselves as Christians. If you believe what modern science is trying to trick you into believing you are in the minority. A very vocal, irrating minority.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:57 pm |
    • Hawk in Texas

      The earth is millions years old and yes i am a christan. in glen rose texas you can see human footprints along side of dianosour tracks. if you believe that the earth is only 6000 years old that makes you a tea party person.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:07 pm |
      • Gumby

        Google "Paluxy man tracks". You will find it's a ridiculous fraud.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
      • Saffrondog

        Actually I think the figure is about 6 billion, early one cell life about 4 -4.5 billion and more complex life forms 2 – 2.5 billion. But millions-billions, who cares? All we are is a vocal irritating minority that includes 99.9% of the part of humanity that has studied science beyond about a 5th grade level.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:50 pm |
    • Jesus

      Jesus was stoned to death and then barbecued with a Texas sauce. Some complained it was too hot.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:19 pm |
    • Gumby

      Oh fer chrissakes grow up, put your book of fairy tales down and get an education.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:31 pm |
    • Joshl

      J-Man's comment is the best comment i have read so far in terms of being hilarious

      April 3, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
      • Gumby

        Unfortunately, he was being serious. There really are people in this country that will happily remain ignorant so that they don't have to think too hard about their beliefs. Because if they did, they wouldn't be Christians anymore.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
      • Z

        Being Christian does not imply a rejection of science. A majority of Christians are in denominations that do not reject the theory of evolution. It's just hard to yell as loud about that as it is to yell about creationism.

        April 3, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
    • Gumby

      You're trying to infer that all Christians believe in a young-earth creationist scenario. Not true. As a matter of fact you young-earthers make up a distinct minority of Christians. A very vocal, irritating minority. You are being blatantly dishonest. No surprise, since you're a fundamentalist Christian.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:44 pm |
      • jacques lepin

        Thank you

        April 3, 2012 at 9:10 pm |
      • Primewonk

        Sadly, no. World-wide, 90% of Christians belong to sects with no problem with a faith in god and an understanding that evolution is a fact. However, in the US, 45% of the public believe humans were created by god less than 10,000 years ago. Amongst conservatives, that number soars to over 60%.

        April 4, 2012 at 8:34 am |
    • ERA CHRONICLE

      ...really? ur really going to bring this up? what do u not believe in evolution either?

      April 3, 2012 at 9:27 pm |
    • Sluggo

      If believing in something made it true, then the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus would have long been realities.

      April 3, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Bob Anderson

      Only "less than 10,000 years old", huh?

      Alright, J-Man, I have a simple question for you. How many Gardens of Eden were there? Just one, you say? And how many people lived there in the beginning? Just Adam and Eve, yes? And we are all descendent from them, right? Ok, so, simple question... with whom did Adam and Eve's children procreate in order to make the next generation?

      It may be difficult for you to comprehend "science", J-Man, but surely can manage "incest".

      I really look forward to reading how you evade this one...

      April 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
      • Z

        How is this a serious criticism? Under the evolutionary model how many potential mating partners are available to a new species?

        April 3, 2012 at 10:02 pm |
      • Rob

        Don't worry I'll take this one. So if what you are saying that It is impossible from us all to have come from 2 people then tell me even without the truth of Adam and eve where did we come from? In essence we all had to come from 2 people eventually if you go back far enough so that statement while in essence is true well it would be true from both angles so what's your point? Here is the deal you are trying to put God in a box... Can't do it, God is capable of more than our small feeble minds could ever comprehend so don't even try. However why don't you do a little real searching and come up with some real answers about Gods existence. When you get down to it all road lead back to him....

        April 3, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
      • sybaris

        Rob said, "God is capable of more than our small feeble minds could ever comprehend so don't even try."

        Could your god make a rock it could not lift?

        April 3, 2012 at 10:25 pm |
      • D Brennan

        Z – the answer is that you don't get from one species to another in a single generation. Let's start with a group of animals – any animal will go, and any point in time will do. Let's call that group the 1st generation. Each child born of that generation would look an awful like its parents, and could conceive a child with someone from the 1st generation.

        Children of the 3rd generation would look like 1st and 2nd generations, and on and on. The 1st, 2nd and 3rd generations could all conceive children with each other, and would look alike. If you compare the 30th generation from the 1st, you might start to see some interesting differences.

        Go 100 generations out and there might be even more differences.

        After 1000 generations, you might end up with a situation where a 1000th generation person would be able to travel back in time and conceive a child with someone from the 1st generation.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:01 pm |
      • Gadflie

        Z, many. A new species isn't a huge jump, it is an incremental step from the previous sub species. It takes several sub species steps before a new species arises.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:29 am |
      • Z

        Sometimes. The phyletic gradualism that D and to a lesser extent Gadflie describe does appear to occur in cases. Certainly the cases we can come closest to observing exhibit this slow gradual series of subspecies that progress through time and space, slowly differing until they can no longer interbreed. My studies of evolutionary theory pointed toward genetic drift as often the strongest force of evolution, which is simply the rapid changes of traits within small populations due exactly to interbreeding. This is the scenario that Bob highlighted in his criticism. Thus my question.

        April 4, 2012 at 1:30 pm |
      • Z

        Excuse me, inbreeding, not interbreeding.

        April 4, 2012 at 3:35 pm |
    • Bob Anderson

      Only "less than 10,000 years old", huh?

      Alright, J-Man, I have a simple question for you. How many Gardens of Eden were there? Just one, you say? And how many people lived there in the beginning? Just Adam and Eve, yes? And we are all descendent from them, right? Ok, so, simple question... with whom did Adam and Eve's children procreate in order to make the next generation?

      It may be difficult for you to comprehend "science", J-Man, but surely can manage "incest".

      I really look forward to reading how you evade this one...

      April 3, 2012 at 10:00 pm |
    • Don

      Any educated man who lives in the 21st century and claims the Earth is only on the order of thousands of years old has been metaphorically living under a rock or has his head buried in the sand.

      April 3, 2012 at 10:22 pm |
    • Keith

      Damn you Christians are dumb and gullible. It is the Jews book and they don't believe it means what you do. They have been studying it for 4000 years and they think you are crazy. It is their book I am going with their interpretation.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • Clint

      Simple and truthful answer here, your either ignorant or a troll.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:13 am |
    • Dan

      JMan,
      How old was Adam and Eve when they were cast out of Eden? Do you know? 25 years old? 60 years old? 10000 years old? Genesis 5:5 said he died at 930 years old. Did his age start after he left Eden or when God made him? Your bible doesn't say. Was the original idea of man by your god to die? Nothing says that was your god's plan. If I was to create a companion for myself, I would try hard to make it last a long long time.

      How do you know they weren't eating animals in there? How do you know time didn't continue around Eden? Eden was very much an isolated, specific area on the globe with the entrance guarded by cherubim or an angel. This means the rest of the planet was what? Dead? Going along peacefully without the presence of man? Evolving?

      Bottom line is we have no idea how long Adam was in Eden and we have no idea how old he was when he was booted. We have no idea about the rest of the planet outside of Eden. It could have been going great, evolving, changing, for millions/billions of years while Adam and Eve were running around doing whatever they wanted.

      In other words, it is very easy to see that the bible doesn't protest evolution and vice versa.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:59 am |
      • john

        Who is Adam? Who is Eve? and Where the hell is Eden??? Amazing... Not believing in the bible's "stories" is fine, but don't quote ideas from it like it's proven actual fact... That's like taking Superman and saying well we know he lived in New York, oh he was a reporter, but we don't know where he is now...

        April 4, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • SixDegrees

      Among your other very many mistakes is the following one: there is no year 0 in our calendar. There is 1 BC, immediately followed by 1 AD.

      Everything else you said is also wrong.

      April 4, 2012 at 3:21 am |
    • john

      This is what happens when you get home schooled...

      April 4, 2012 at 4:01 am |
  28. Christina-Xena

    Whether they cooked meat is a no-brainer. If they had a campfire, for any reason (warmth and/or protection) one of them at some point either dropped some raw fat or or tried to dispose of the remains of a meal or raw meat leftovers into the fire, then discovered how good it smelled, then dug it out and tried some. And loved it! Thus they experimented till they got some system of cooking going. In other words if they figured out how to create and maintain fire in their caves they were smart enough to learn from trial-and-error or learn from accidents with it.

    Once you go cooked ....you never go back!

    April 3, 2012 at 7:56 pm |
    • Gumby

      As usual, Gary Larson ("The Far Side" cartoons) says it best:

      http://www.mevin.com/stuff/FarsideLookWhatZogDo.jpg

      April 3, 2012 at 8:48 pm |
    • Saffrondog

      But scientists need to move on to the greater question – when were smores invented?

      April 3, 2012 at 8:54 pm |
      • twolfhound

        Early 1900's. First in the recipe book in 1927. Glad you asked!
        http://www.divinecaroline.com/33618/77869-origin-s-mores

        April 4, 2012 at 12:00 pm |
  29. Phearis

    Uhhhhh, No! Because according to Christians and Republicans, the Earth is only 5,700 years old. And we all know that Christians and Republicans NEVER lie.

    April 3, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
    • Hawk in Texas

      I am a christian. at least i believe in god and jesus christ. i know the earth is millions of years old. it could be that i am a democrat. i do not see how anyone could dispute the true age of earth. but it could be that republicans haven't evolved enough yet. after all they stay glued to faux news.so their learning is brainwashing.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:12 pm |
      • Tim

        The earth is BILLIONS not millions of years old!!! Did any of you ever even pass High School science!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 9:58 pm |
  30. Rod Venger

    Uhhh HELLoooooooo! Rachel Welch? Ringo Starr? Anyone anyone?

    April 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
  31. readyeller

    wait....what? What idiot believes the earth is more than 6,000 years old? And what's this cooking with fire crap. We had a garden with everything you could possibly imagine to eat. We didn't have to cook it. We just picked it and ate our fill. Until that damn snake came around and the old lady just had to try the apples. Now if we would have had beer in that damn garden none of this would have happened. I'd a been like "hey woman.... go grab me another damn beer while I kill this damn snake.

    April 3, 2012 at 6:48 pm |
    • readyeller

      Wow, I must exist in more than one universe. Wonder if that damn snake followed me?

      April 3, 2012 at 6:50 pm |
    • sonic10158

      another shallow-minded atheist I see....

      April 3, 2012 at 7:00 pm |
      • Phearis

        Yeah, because "Christians" are sooooooooo open to proven facts and new ideas.

        April 3, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
      • Gumby

        Ha ha. Another irony meter goes "KA-BOOM!"

        April 3, 2012 at 8:51 pm |
  32. readyeller

    wait....what? What idiot believes the earth is more than 6,000 years old? And what's this cooking with fire crap. We had a garden with everything you could possibly imagine to eat. We didn't have to cook it. We just picked it and ate our fill. Until that damn snake came around and the old lady just had to try the apples. Now if we would have had beer in that damn garden none of this would have happened. I'd a been like "hey woman....grab me another damn beer while I kill this damn snake.

    April 3, 2012 at 6:46 pm |
    • Christina-Xena

      Yea, and look what happened! The guy gets the woman to eat the wrong apple and messes it all up.

      And is now why most guys have to get their darn own beer!

      April 3, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
  33. bpuharic

    I wonder if these guys don't know humans weren't around 2M years ago. April fool's joke?

    April 3, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      I wonder if you noticed that the 2 million year reference was to H. erectus?

      April 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Phearis

      Modern Human, no but if you'd actually read the story instead of skimming the headline and commenting, you'd have seen he was talking about human ancestors. Heck, if you want to get technical, human were around 300-million years ago when dinosaurs ruled ..... but we looked more like rodents.

      April 3, 2012 at 7:50 pm |
  34. Tyler 222

    You people need to find something more productive to do with yourselves. I cannot believe the amount of effort put in to disprove one another over something as insignificant as a species making fire. To those of you at each others throats throughout this I can tell you one thing; You are spending way too much time on the internet. Put your jacket and shoes on and go outside for a little while. There really is a world out there. Try not to miss too much of it before your time is up.

    April 3, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
    • SirCake

      "You people need to find something more productive to do with yourselves. I cannot believe the amount of effort put in to disprove one another over something as insignificant as a species making fire. To those of you at each others throats throughout this I can tell you one thing; You are spending way too much time on the internet. Put your jacket and shoes on and go outside for a little while. There really is a world out there. Try not to miss too much of it before your time is up."

      ...says Tyler, who apparently has enough time to moderate the Internet.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:33 pm |
    • Hawk in Texas

      Too soon we get old, and too late we get smart.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:18 pm |
      • Saffrondog

        True – the Amish have known that for 6001 years.

        April 3, 2012 at 8:57 pm |
    • dwhiteoak

      Well said, Tyler 222. These interactions are like...well, like nothing else I've ever seen. Mildly entertaining but so embarrassing. Let's go outside and breathe fresh air...pet the dog and look at stars...

      April 4, 2012 at 2:34 am |
  35. kls817

    The problem with using fire for food preparation is that it removes some of the nutrients (e.g. the fat drains away). We have the luxury to do that today but primitive hominids probably did not. Perhaps fire was used as a means to frighten predators; there is a lot we don't know.

    April 3, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      It also makes a lot of foods easier to digest, though. Tastier, too.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:12 pm |
    • Steve

      Cooked meat is high in vitamin K2, which is only otherwise known to be found in fermented foods. Pathogens and parasites are also destroyed when meat is cooked. Some complex amino acids are also created by the cooking process. These factors alone probably outweigh the loss of some nutrients.

      April 3, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
  36. HenryMiller

    There's no sense of scale in that pic–is that orange round thing a pizza?

    April 3, 2012 at 5:02 pm |
    • SirDaBasher

      , I am curious of how gross food must have tasted during the times of Jesus , Cristopher Columbus or during the time of the first American pioneers in the Wild West .

      Their food must had tasted terrible

      April 3, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
      • SixDegrees

        It would depend a great deal on who you were and where you lived. Life for the poor in European cities during the 1700s, for example, was generally wretched, while their counterparts in the countryside lived better and ate a better diet. The wealthy, no matter where they lived, tended to gorge themselves into debilitating illness or an early grave due to faddish indulgences.

        For a fun look at diets of the past, check out "The Supersizers Go..." series on The Cooking Channel. The two hosts spend a week eating the diet of various periods (Regency; Medieval; the 70s and so on) bracketed by trips to the doctor to see what the effect on their health has been. Very interesting and entertaining.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:40 pm |
  37. palintwit

    Teabaggers believe that the first automobiles really were foot powered. Teabaggers also believe that Smokey and the Bandit Part 3 is a classic film.

    April 3, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
    • Carl

      With an accuracy rate of 50%, it's like they are picking these answers at random!

      April 3, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Clint

      Part 3, really? Part 1, yes, but everything after about the first 30 minutes of part 2 just sucks.

      April 4, 2012 at 12:19 am |
  38. Shameless Plug

    So easy, a caveman can do it.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  39. Rick

    Darwin believes in Satan now.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
    • Rick

      Darwin was not a moron.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
      • SixDegrees

        As a matter of fact, he was a clergyman.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • SirDaBasher

        @ Rick

        Darwin might not have been a m0r0n , but most probably he was a M0RM0N

        April 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • C Smythe

      Darwin is just dead. There are no gods, devils or after life. I don't need fairy tales to help me understand and love the vast universe . . .

      April 3, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • heroicslugtest

      Well, they both don't exist anymore.

      One of them never did though. Except as delusions and hallucinations by you and your ilk.

      Darwin made a great contribution to science and will be remembered for all time.

      Satan – a derivation of an erroneously capitalized Chai-tan (translation: adversary/enemy) will be forgotten, known only to scholars of ancient mythology or religious folklore.

      Right after Joesph Smith and his Magical Golden Plates.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:58 pm |
  40. StarShipTrooper

    I enjoy articles that are of worth. The sad part of all of this is the people on here who feel the need to degrade and belittle others.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Keith

      That is because most of them are nincompoops.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:35 pm |
  41. Joe B

    Scientists say everything happened a million or billion years ago because otherwise they have to admit God created the universe. If they are so smart, where did the contents of the big bang come from? How did complex forms come from dust? Try creating an eyeball from dust in your lab. Scientists are so "smart" they are stupid.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • intothemoonbeam

      I encourage you to read Stephen Hawking's "Brief History of time" and "The Universe in a Nutshell" he explains in detail in both books where "the contents" of the Big Bang came from. Remember when you read, you learn things. Reading is Fun-da-mental.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:43 pm |
      • jc

        I own and have read both of those books. No where does Stephen Hawking ever mention what comes before the Big Bang. Its impossible to know, so physicists often do not even speculate. Some of the theories mentioned in Universe in a Nutshell (M Theory for instance) have the mathmetical possibility of the Universe either being an Infinite cycle or many universes curled up into one. These ideas have some merit, purely as math equations. But nothing can be observed before the first moment of the Big Bang refered to as the "singularity" by Hawking

        April 4, 2012 at 3:03 am |
    • palintwit

      See my comments below regarding the Big Bang.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
      • WiscBadger

        Hint – Look for the stairs.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:48 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      You'll also want to add "The Origin of Species" to your reading list.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
    • Rick

      By your own logic you shouldn't believe in God then. Since I can just as easily say to you, where did God come from? To which you would say, I don't know.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • pod

        So true, yet they always "win" (at least in their mind) with that "faith" card .

        April 3, 2012 at 6:02 pm |
    • Mick

      Joe, if you want to be taken seriously by evolutionists, why not spend half an hour researching the subject before you comment on it. You will then see that no scientist thinks eyeballs come from dust (the idea of man coming from dust comes from the Bible, but that's another matter). You will also realize why people facepalm when you make such ridiculous statements.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
    • Shameless Plug

      Joe B: "Scientists say everything happened a million or billion years ago because otherwise they have to admit God created the universe. If they are so smart, where did the contents of the big bang come from? How did complex forms come from dust? Try creating an eyeball from dust in your lab. Scientists are so "smart" they are stupid."

      Let me twist your words, in the most basic way, to dispute everything you said above, in a manner that you may understand.

      According to the Bible, the apostles were told to spread the word of Jesus to all corners of the Earth. Apparently they missed China and the Americas. Nowadays, it is said if you don't follow Jesus you will go to hell, and yet there are tribes in the Amazon that have never had outside human contact for thousands of years.

      So, "Creationists say everything happened five thousand years ago because otherwise they have to admit the creation of the universe was a scientific phenomenon. If they are so smart, why did the Biblical beings miss the Americas and not know the world was round, not the center of the universe, and contradict themselves dozens of times? How did complex forms pop out of nowhere, and yet have virtually the same DNA as all other beings on Earth? Try explaining the fact that cloning can occur through creationism. Creationists are so "smart" they are stupid."

      P.S. I believe that a human ear was cloned on a mouse's back, so they can get your eyeball to you. Just order one from a genetic lab, and I'm sure you will have one cloned in a few months.

      April 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
      • johnP

        Wow you are so smart!

        April 3, 2012 at 5:37 pm |
    • Zima

      Or – maybe God 'created' Big Bang and all... how about that?

      April 3, 2012 at 5:53 pm |
      • sybaris

        Zima
        or maybe man created the gods
        or maybe a god created another god
        or maybe the only big bang is on Thursday nights
        or maybe you're just pulling it out of your behind

        April 3, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
    • bpuharic

      This is the 'god of the gaps' argument. Creationists didn't even know the earth was a planet but they got the universe figured out. Science explained more in 300 years than creationism did in 3000.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
      • D Brennan

        and that's the knockout punch.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:05 pm |
    • Moo

      Scientists speak in terms of millions and billions of years when referring to the history of the universe because the universe appears to be ~14 billion years old. Hominids appear to have diverged ~3 million years ago. The earth appears to be ~4.6 billion years old. Life appears to be ~3.5 billion years old (maybe a little older).

      Your god was invented by ancient Mesopotamians ~3000 years ago to explain that which was inexplicable. To imply that scientists have no evidence for an old universe is simply wrong.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
      • Mema

        Moo why is it that the age of the earth or universe disputes creation. It does not matter how long the universe has been here, creation of man is where the 6000+ applies. If evolution is how man came to be then where are the thousands if not millions of links it would have taken to arrive at man currently. Thats a lot of missing links. But that the problem, there MISSING. If mans been here millions of years the earths population would be exponentially much greater than it is at present. Scientist also mainly focus on how man came to be yet there are millions of different forms of life on earth. They would also have evolutionary links MISSING. Just because some scientist says this rocks a billion years old that means man came from apes! Oh yeah and if evolution was true then why are apes still in existence? They should be extinct.

        April 4, 2012 at 7:36 am |
    • SJones

      Try creating a god from nothing... I bet it a lot easier creating an eyeball from dust.

      April 3, 2012 at 6:42 pm |
  42. palintwit

    Teabaggers believe that the Big Bang means they get to boink their sisters and cousins after church on Sunday.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:37 pm |
    • WiscBadger

      Still can't find your way out of your mom's basement?

      April 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  43. ryan

    How could we have made fire 1 million years ago if we've only been here approx 6000 years?? besides that Fire has been here since man walked the earth. Humans are not more intelligent now then the beginning, more likely less intelligent now.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:03 pm |
    • Easy E

      So in other words your assumption that humans have been around for only 6,000 years is completely wrong. Yep, it's amazing what happens when you allow yourself to think outside of the tiny box given by a verbatim interpretation of a translation of a translation of a Bronze Age tale written down some 1,000 years after the events allegedly unfolded.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • LoLcAtZ

      Thog smash Ryan's intellect.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:11 pm |
    • SixDegrees

      God made man
      But he used a monkey to do it
      Apes in the plan
      And we're all here to prove it
      I can walk like an ape
      Talk like an ape
      I can do what a monkey can do
      God made man
      But a monkey supplied the glue

      April 3, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Really? Did someone find the Missing Link when I wasn't watching? Is Human Evolution more than just the Theory it has always been? Prove it or shut up.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:40 pm |
      • SixDegrees

        One man’s doughnut is another man’s death.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
      • Seraphim0

        Hilarious that someone who believes in a phantom being no one can prove exists is asking for solid proof on anything.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:56 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        @SixDegrees: One man's doughnut could be the difference between Diabetic Coma and life.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:16 pm |
      • Moo

        @SouthernCleft

        You show a distinct lack of understanding when it comes to evolution by requesting a "Missing Link."

        April 3, 2012 at 6:34 pm |
      • Marq

        SouthernCelt: Please search for the difference between Theory and Hypothesys, then you'll understand that you don't know what you're talking about. Evolution Theory is a well proven, widely accepted theory, not like the Creationism fantasy

        April 3, 2012 at 7:18 pm |
    • Ravi

      "Humans are not more intelligent now then the beginning, more likely less intelligent now."

      You are a prime example of that...

      April 3, 2012 at 4:28 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Then again, given better and more abundant sources of food and clean water almost immediately available, we would have more time to think of doing something constructive other than surviving. Browsing the Internet is not constructive.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:38 pm |
    • Rick

      Funny troll is funny.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  44. jj

    Spiritually (but not religiously) speaking, the universe is a machine designed to create gods.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:01 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Logically you have it backwards. The Universe had to come from somewhere, i.e. someone had to light the fuse on the Big Bang.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:42 pm |
      • Rick

        Please don't talk about logic as you apparently have none. Saying that someone must have lit the fuse for the Big Bang is like saying someone has to light the fuse to keep the sun burning every day. No, they don't, it's all part of the process that is the physics of cosmology. I bet you think there's only been one big bang too don't you? Do you understand the terms eternity and infinity?

        April 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Rick, in the course of my degrees (yes, plural) I have taken several Logic courses. I suppose you think the Big Bang combusted on its own? Multi-verses are either fiction or Quantum Mechanics. In your case, probably fiction.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:21 pm |
  45. JSS714

    Love all the comments...the scientists vs the creationists...even had an atheist conservative in there. Science is so hypocritical, so it's hard to believe what they say at any given moment...because they'll just change it tomorrow. I understand that's what science is all about...a theory (guess) based on evidence that they've stacked in the way they believe it occurred; but, consider this hypocracy...if those same scientists found a single living cell on another planet / moon in the Universe, they would ALL be jumping up and down about finding new life...but that same single cell in the female womb on Earth is not yet life. So, just when do we believe what a scientist says?

    April 3, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
    • joe

      With an arguement like that, you're really reaching for straws. Try thinking about the issue, like, really thinking. Not just hearing one sentence and making obsurd conclusions from it. Think big picture here, not just whatever fits your preconceptions.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:12 pm |
    • Easy E

      Science is hypocritical? Why? Because it doesn't comport to your extremeist religios views? Since when is unbiased observation and empirical verification of theory a hypocritical activity.

      Nevermind. You know what? Turn off the computer, sell all of your possessions, and move to a cave in the desert, because otherwise you are sullying yourself with the hypocrisy of science and moden living. Otherwise, YOU ARE THE BIG HYPOCRITE, FOOL.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • sefs

      I don't know, they certainly gave you the means to reveal your ignorance to the world via the internet. *sigh* lets give em a chance. If we put you and a couple dozen people knowing exactly what you know in a resource rich area would you guys even start your first fire before you perished....

      April 3, 2012 at 4:17 pm |
    • Joe B

      "Science is so hypocritical, so it's hard to believe what they say at any given moment...because they'll just change it tomorrow."

      Yeah... kind of like God in the Bible.

      "Hate your enemy" then, "Love your enemy" now.
      "Eye for an eye" then, "No eye for eye" now.
      "Divorce okay" then, "Divorce not okay" now.
      "Don't eat pork" now, "Go ahead and eat pork" now.

      I could go on and on and on....

      Scientists CHANGE their views in light of NEW EVIDENCE.
      Are scientists "hypocrites" because the once thought the Sun revolved around the Earth, and now don't?

      April 3, 2012 at 4:21 pm |
      • Rob

        Let me explain this in a term maybe you can understand you are mixing old test with new test the difference being before Jesus. Before Jesus we were all subject to Gods wrath but let me be clear... Gods Law has never changed not ever. You should probably research what you say before you spread misinformation. God is science folks hate to break that to you as well. Science is awesome no doubt but science is not what I would put my faith in as science is forever changing. Nothing about the bible and the teachings of the bible has ever changed. Mans perception of the bible has changed to fit the needs of what they thought was right but again that was mans doing not Gods. As for me I put my faith in God not man. And I welcome any debate that anyone of you would like to have!

        April 3, 2012 at 6:57 pm |
      • Keith

        Rob, I plan on doind as I please until the Jesus gets here. He can do things as he pleases then, Until then I am in charge

        April 3, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Rick

      Ummm...do you really believe that a fetus is one cell? Really??

      April 3, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        It starts out that way. Better look closely though, it replicates rapidly.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:22 pm |
    • johnP

      It is okay JSS714 I thought your comments were about the best I have seen on this thread. Thankyou and may God bless and keep you.

      April 3, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • Gumby

      "Theory" does not mean "guess", you deliberately dishonest tw1t.

      April 4, 2012 at 8:17 am |
  46. palintwit

    Scientists have known for years that the early cave dwellers decorated the walls of their caves with drawings of animals. The walls of this particular cave, however, were decorated with Sarah Palin's crosshairs posters. They were drawn with charcoal but still prove the existence of early teabaggers.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
  47. Dr. Loomis

    These were clearly ancient Irishmen; they needed fire to boil wort for their beer.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      .. and the reason the Sun never set on the British Empire was because God knew they could not be trusted in the dark.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:47 pm |
  48. WhatNow

    Okay, the southern states can now stop arguing over where BBQ got it's start. Current evidence puts Africa first and it probably wasn't beef or pork. Vegans, looks like our ancestors did in fact eat meat. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

    Great article.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
    • Easy E

      Oh, there is no doubt that humans started out on a meat rich diet. Carbs were few and far between (basically a few berries and roots here and there), that's why they taste SOOO good to us.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:22 pm |
      • Rick

        So you think it was easier for a human to catch a wild animal than to catch fruits, vegetables and roots etc? And you also believe that in this place where vegetation was supposedly limited there just happened to be animals to catch? huh??

        April 3, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
      • sharoom

        NOOO WE ATE BUGS. LOTS AND LOTS OF BUGS.

        April 3, 2012 at 9:24 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Our bodies may do better on more veggies, but our teeth were most definitely made for meat. The rough texture of veggies will wear your teeth down. Without question early man was a meat eater.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
      • Rick

        Wrong again....and again and again and again.Try doing some real research before you post your made up nonsense.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        My Doctor told me that and I saw the sense in it. Do your own research as you are woefully misguided. Back to school, you haven't learned enough yet.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:25 pm |
      • Derangedcowbrain

        We actually have both types of teeth. And some of the back ones, you all know what they are, are becoming obsolete.

        April 3, 2012 at 6:25 pm |
  49. palintwit

    Conservatives believe that the Flintstones is an accurate depiction of early man. But then again conservatives are also still mourning the loss of Peggy Rea, the actress that played Boss Hogg's wife.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
    • WiscBadger

      Are you still here? Get out of your mom's basement and get a job.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:34 pm |
    • TriPi380

      Thanks for stopping by.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
  50. rad666

    "potentially for cooking purposes" -– Or human sacrifice.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:21 pm |
  51. The question is...

    "... it’s a little bit too early to be sure" if these early humans were cooking or not... " I'd just like to know if they had a permit to start a fire in a wilderness area.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
  52. Blogical

    One day from nothing and by the way, even before time, there was a huge bang. And you know what happened boys and girls? Earth popped out of thin air (oh wait, there was no air) ok, it just popped out, and then there was a spark from nothing, because nothing existed at the time, (even though time didnt exist either). then we crawled out of a non-existent ocean and stood up and walked. Then we made fire in a cave. Next class we will discuss the universal physical truth that from nothing, nothing can come.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • Kev

      Clearly, you are well versed in defending an imaginary sky ghost....because what you've described here is not the Big Bang.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:04 pm |
      • Blogical

        Kev please! I am on your side defending how the big bang started from nothing even though I learned in my science class the FACT that from nothing, nothing can come.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:15 pm |
    • I'm The Best!

      If that's your view of real science and how cosmology and evolution works then its no wonder your religious. Further proof that only the ignorant believe in the fairy tales in the bible.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
      • Blogical

        Hey I'm the Best (talk about believing in fairy tales),

        Did you know that the earth used to be flat? That's a fact. It was like a pancake and science teachers laughed at columbus when he theorized that the earth was round. What a kook!

        April 3, 2012 at 3:30 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        People believed that because it said so in the bible. It took an actual scientist/adventurer to prove to people that the bible was wrong. Thanks for the example, it really helps show that only the ignorant believe in what the bible says.

        P.s. a circle isn't a sphere, in case you didn't know.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:43 pm |
      • Rob

        So please tell me where in the bible does it say the earth is flat? Uhhhhhm let me think.... No where research before you post misinformation you just make yourself look like a fool...

        April 3, 2012 at 7:04 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        The bible says the earth is a circle. And if you remember shapes, a circle is flat. According to the bible, the earth is flat. Why don't you learn some real knowledge (like basic shapes) before commenting and making yourself look like a fool

        April 4, 2012 at 7:23 am |
    • tag

      you are right

      April 3, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
    • sbp

      So cosmology offends your sense of rationality and logic? And yet an invisible being with unlimited magical power makes perfect sense to you. Wow.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:50 pm |
    • Patty

      Blogical, thanks for you uneducated post. I'm waiting breathlessly for your follow up post where you credit a big magical invisible being for creating everything. Be sure to leave out the part where you can't account for where this being came from. kthxbai

      April 3, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      But are you sure Time really exists?

      April 3, 2012 at 4:49 pm |
      • mcewenpe

        Existence requires time. Non-existence requires the lack of time.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:58 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        For the unenlightened, that was a Physics joke.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:29 pm |
    • Rick

      And from here folks came the term that ignorance is bliss.

      April 3, 2012 at 5:06 pm |
  53. Humbogus

    I'll be impressed when scientists find a 1,000,000 year old skeleton tebowing. That would prove two things: He believed in a god, but probably couldn't throw his spear to save his lefe.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • sbp

      Nice.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
  54. Chaotician

    Oh, you silly people; Jesus made the world only 4000 years ago, so this "evidence" just shows how clever he was...making fossils, and extinct Dinosaurs, entombed Mammoths, aged ice layers, and imaginary ancestors of Adam and Eve with supporting bric-a-brac! Silly people!

    April 3, 2012 at 2:46 pm |
    • WhatNow

      Did you know that there are religious faiths that actually believe that scientists go out and plant the bones in an effort to fool people? Yes, it is actually taught to some children in certain religious faiths in the US. I find that scary.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:36 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      Try Catholicism. The Church has no position on if it was Creation or if He used Evolution to get us here. All we do know is that it was His Idea.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:51 pm |
      • Seraphim0

        So.. "we don't know how, we don't know why, we don't know details... but he was DEFINITELY involved?" yup. Perfect sense.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:00 pm |
  55. Sybaris

    Meanwhile back at the Creation Museum in Petersburg Kentucky Norman is changing the dates on the Adam and Eve display.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:35 pm |
  56. palintwit

    Scientists from the prestigous Sarah Palin University have been studying this cave and have determined that these cave dwellers were really early teabaggers. Skeletal remains include skulls with only one tooth and outside the cave there is what researchers believe are the remains of the first nascar track.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:33 pm |
    • Back to the stone age

      Excellent. You learned something today. I don't care what they say, there's hope for you yet..

      Now, back to your trailer park.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:05 pm |
    • intothemoonbeam

      I have to admit I LOL'ed at this one

      April 3, 2012 at 5:09 pm |
  57. dugh

    the fire probably got out of hand when some cave dweller lit their farts on fire and everything went up in flames.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
    • sbp

      Dugh, please see Wobbles' post. His: funny. Yours: juvenile. Learn it. Live it.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:47 pm |
  58. Wobbles

    The burned bones and ash plant material were not as exciting as the propane lighter found with them. The BIC Corporation has confirmed that the lighter was one from a production run dated 12 November 1,000,000 BC.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
  59. PeteInOhio

    In a million years, our decendents will find these comments and doubt the idea of intelligent life in the 21st century . . . .

    April 3, 2012 at 2:12 pm |
    • Kelly

      Hahaha! The best comment so far!

      April 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
    • TriPi380

      Perfect :)

      April 3, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
  60. DanoRoo

    Democrat voters are basically these guys with EBT cards.

    April 3, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
  61. palintwit

    Conservatives believe that dinosaurs became extinct because Noah pushed them overboard. He was afraid they were too big and would capsize the ark.

    April 3, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • Ania

      You made my day.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
    • intothemoonbeam

      They also believe global warming is a hoax, overpopulation is a hoax, the moon landing was a hoax, the big bang is a hoax, the fact that the Earth is 4.5 billions years is a hoax and that it's a hoax when we say oil and fresh water supplies will be very limited in 30 years. Am I missing anything else?

      April 3, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
      • intothemoonbeam

        *fact that the Earth is 4.5 billion years old

        April 3, 2012 at 2:23 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        I'm a conservative and I don't believe any of those things. I'm also an atheist. What I believe is that people shouldn't be living off of my dime when they aren't working. My point is, don't lump me in with the religious idiots. You're saying conservative when you mean evangelical. Don't mix up the two.

        From a financial conservative and social liberal.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:02 pm |
      • Hoax Grumpster

        Yep...everything is a hoax....even that big oil is making profits....that's a hoax. The earth is round...also a hoax. An educated conservative is an oxymoron.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:07 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        So you're saying I'm an oxymoron because I know none of those things were a hoax but I'm a conservative? Just because I'm more conservative doesn't make me an idi.ot. It's just your lack of a good paying job makes you want free handouts.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:20 pm |
      • toxictown

        They forgot the biggest hoax of all...Jesus.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
      • Buzz Mann

        Oxymoron isn't a person it is a thing.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • TriPi380

      I'm the Best! = the worst.
      You narcisistic POS.
      Go jump off a bridge...you can continue complaining about free hand outs on your way down.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:37 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        I don't agree with the POS but I am a bit of a narcisist. The whole system needs to be done with better pay for lower level workers but overall less government intervention. I'd rather be paid slightly less and know that the money I'm not getting is going to someone who's working rather than get less after taxes and have my money go to some guy who has never worked a day in his life. You can not like me all you want, but that doesn't change the fact that where both parties want to go with the government could easily ruin the country. And just because I agree with conservatives on more of the financial points doesn't make me an id.iot. It just means I don't want 25% of my paycheck going to some lazy guy who gets a check every month for not doing anything.

        You're the one who should jump off a bridge for as.suming all conservatives are stupi.d
        As.shole.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:55 pm |
      • TriPi380

        Wow, thats a whole lotta words you just put in my mouth there. If you get all of that from my itty bitty comment I can only imagine how the rest of your day goes. Good luck with life, toolbox.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        I wasn't putting any words in your mouth, I was giving my beliefs. I did as.sume you were a liberal judging by your attack of my conservative status, but that was it. I was just trying to show that not all conservatives are idi.ots, many are, but not all. You people attacked me first. I'm just defending my beliefs. I thought liberals were supposed to be nicer than this.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:09 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      and here I've been thinking it was an asteroid (or reallly big Volcano) that blocked out the sun, killed the lower life forms the dinosaurs ate, and they all starved to death before Noah set sail.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:53 pm |
  62. DanoRoo

    Please God.........don't let the cave man's food of choice be Skittles and Iced Tea.

    April 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
  63. Million-year-old Caveman

    Yes, we did cook our food. And if you are interested to know, we also used fire to warm ourselves! You so-called modern humans think you're so much smarter than us. If we're so dumb then why would you be around today? Huh??

    April 3, 2012 at 1:58 pm |
  64. NutGrinder

    Pictures or it never happened. All we get is a picture of a cave? CNN fails at science.

    April 3, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
  65. BBoy705

    Yes, they cooked AND they ate dinosaurs!

    April 3, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • NutGrinder

      I think the dinos ate them!

      April 3, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • TEABAGGING YOU IN HALO

        I think the aliens were the gods that created man in their own image and before that destroyed the earth's life forms in six days and let it recover on the seventh. That would be the purest blend of christianity and science. Everyone wins, now I just need to prove my hypothesis

        April 3, 2012 at 2:29 pm |
      • zeyn2010

        Teabag – totally possible, in fact, you may want to visit Puma Punku to start your search for proof!

        April 3, 2012 at 5:58 pm |
  66. MyTake

    Interesting how these arm-chair scientist and creationist know-nothings like to spout their nonsense whenever there is an article like this ... *yawn* yeah, we all know you don't buy into the scientific method thing or the evidence thing ... shouldn't you be watching TV or taking a nap in your trailer?

    April 3, 2012 at 1:49 pm |
    • NurseLi143

      if you do buy into the scientific method, you understand we still only have the "THEORY" of evolution, THEORY of relativity, and the big bang THEORY rather than laws, like the LAW of gravity, because they can't be proven with science. Larger bones don't always mean different species – have you watched Dr. Horner's dinosaur discussion on TED?

      April 3, 2012 at 2:04 pm |
      • evidence is required

        Nurse lithium, please be appraised that the scientific method is the only one going with the humility and accuracy to differentiate hypotheses from theory from law based on the abundance and reproducibility of the supporting evidence. Scientific idiology also stipulates the admission of "I don't know" in every case where it is applicable, including the origin of life, the universe and other phenomena. Religion, based on faith with no testable evidence, does not allow for "I don't know" and always supplies an explanation for everything regardless of the state of testable knowledge.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
      • Brian Hartman

        You're misunderstanding how scientists use the word theory. In science, a theory is a scientific model that fits available evidence. It's not just a wild guess.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
      • dugh

        Everything is theory unless you experience it yourself first hand. I am not totally sure you poop or eat but in theory you probably do since its essential to your survival as a human but because I did not see you do it, its only theory.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:20 pm |
      • Lucsoren

        The Newtonian LAWS of Physics and Gravity were disproved, and today we operate under the THEORIES of Gravity, The Shape of the Earth, and that the Earth orbits the Sun.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
      • Waldo

        NurseLi, can you prove that you're a human? We have a working theory that you May be but I want to see proof.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:40 pm |
      • mcewenpe

        I guess it's just the difference between "I don't know. Let's find out." and "I just believe what I believe."

        April 3, 2012 at 2:50 pm |
      • WhatNow

        You need to review the concept of scientific theory. Also, one show on TV does not qualify as evidence.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
      • Grumpster

        Yes, and if you even had the remote understanding of what the word THEORY entails, you'd know that they are based on observation and evidence collected over years or decades or centuries, not just some faith based belief based on a book that was written 2000+ years ago by some crackpot who didn't understand what was going on scientifically. Theories can be revised or disproven....but that 2000 year old bunch of garbage hasn't changed one iota since then...except to be rewritten/interpreted to try to keep fooling people who became more educated as time went by. I'll take scientific theory over a 2000 year old manifesto any time.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm |
    • sumday

      Do you really know what the scientific method is? FYI it includes a testable theory- evolution fails at this, and it includes repeatable and predictable results- evolution fails at this also. So explain to me genius if the theory of evolution does not follow the standard scientific method why do you criticize those who question it? Every other accepted theory is testable and predicable, yet evolution after 150yrs still remains un-testable, and unpredictable while we have landed on the moon, transplanted a heart, created computers, created anti-matter, ect we still have not made much progress in the theory of evolution- so does it seem strange to you that while every other field of science has increased evolution still remains un-testable and unpredictable? I mean at least give me a mathematical equation for it- like all the other accepted theories have. Also do you know/understand the ASSUMPTIONS involved in such things? Carbon dating at best is only good for dating things less than 50K yrs old- yet here we have the statement of 1 million yrs- also time is relative so do you know how fast the earth rotated 1 million yr ago during pangea? If you only took the time to look at the beginning assumptions of these theories you would see that there is large room for error.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:34 pm |
      • Waldo

        Honey, the scientists are not using carbon dating to come up with their number of 1 million years. They apply dating by geology as they're digging at the site. Good try though. Next time read the article more comprehensively.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:44 pm |
      • I = rubber, U = glue

        @ sumday

        How can you know the usable timeframe of carbon dating but not know that we use Radioactive dating of atoms with halflives that can be used to accurately date up to 100 million years?

        I think you do know this but you ignore it. I think you are picking and choosing parts of science to try and prove science wrong. Evolution is a fact, get over it. Stop trying to denounce it by pretending there is no evidence and start coming up with some excuse as to how your God created evolution with a bible verse to back up this claim.

        Ugh, you "There is no evidence for evolution" people really frustrate me.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:18 pm |
      • BoneHunter

        Carbon dating isn't the only method for dating the age of fossils and bones. Yes anything under 50k is ideal for carbon 14 but we also look at index fossils (pollen etc), Potasium and Argon 40, Uranium 235 within the surrounding igneous rock or ash within a sediment layer.

        As for for the speed of the earth's plates zipping around, I'm not sure where you are going with this? The earth's plates have been migrating at pretty consisitent speeds but you can measure that readily by looking again at fossils, surrounding rock, lava flows.

        Stepping slightly off topic, if the earth was only 6,000 years old I would be terrified to live on the hawaiian islands as Kure Atoll is ~28 million years old and the big island is about 400k years so. So if you compressed time time and erosion of Kure from a huge island to an Atoll in 6000 years that means Hawaii was formed about 900 years ago and Kure should vanish from erosion within the next 100 years while Hawaii should have stopped being an active volcanoe hundreds of years ago.

        I have a question for you? How do you explain the moon's distance, speed, rate of spin and distance it is traveling away from the earth?

        April 3, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
      • Grumpster

        Don't even try to argue with these wing nuts...you are just beating your head against a wall. They haven't the capability to understand science and just want to keep twisting words to their own belief system. They attended Sunday School where they learned pat answers and snappy comebacks very well....but never were taught anything about science and what scientific theory entails.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:33 pm |
      • Rob

        "science" also states that during the time that dinosaurs roamed the earth the sun was to large and life could not have existed on earth. I mean it is scientifically proven that the sun is constantly shrinking and this is at a rate that can defiantly be measured. Yet when they realized their goof they went back and changed the numbers to to fit their theory.... Again I don't think I'll put my fate in man.. However I will thank God for science!

        April 3, 2012 at 7:33 pm |
      • I = rubber, U = glue

        @Rob

        Nope, all lies. None of what you are spouting is true. I don't understand how you, sumday, Nick DeYound, etc do it. Where do you guys all come up with these lies. I'm trying to google for them, but all the links i see tell me the sun is expanding and no where does it talk about dinosaurs not being able to exist due to temperature. Seriously, do you just make this stuff up, or do you get it from some creationists source where one Master Conspirator comes up with "Facts" for all you sheep to propagate.

        Are you saying all fossils are a lie? Are you saying dinosaurs didn't actually exist because it was too hot? Are you trying to prove scientists wrong by pretending that scientists said the sun was shrinking (I can't find any record of anyone ever saying that)?

        Ugh, you guys tire me out.

        April 4, 2012 at 10:28 am |
  67. Contact

    Fire is just one of the tools aliens gave us. I don't know why bible thumpers have to chime in about divine intervention.

    April 3, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
    • Lucy

      Probably had it wrapped in bubble gum for the trip.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
      • @ aliens

        Hey genius, you still have to explain where the aliens came from in the first place if you are going to use that against 'bible thumpers.'

        April 3, 2012 at 1:53 pm |
      • Ania

        @aliens....they came from another planet DUH

        April 3, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      I'm pretty sure my Scoutmaster and the Boy Scouts were not aliens.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:55 pm |
  68. CatSh

    They built a fire 98 feet INSIDE a cave? I expect the next thing they will find will be the bones of said people who died of carbon-monoxide poisoning....

    April 3, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
    • nicthedick85

      Yea because you know that cave. There is no chance a draft came through there right?

      April 3, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
      • Rick

        Or that in a million plus years the shape and size of the cave has maybe changes hah.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • David

      Your ancestors built that fire, ate, procreated, and brought about your very existence.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:50 pm |
    • dugh

      They just plugged in their fans to ventilate the cave.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:22 pm |
  69. RF Burns

    :...walked upright and had a smaller brain than our species..." That could describe a typical politician.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
    • TriPi380

      Normally I hate politcally based comments but THAT was a good one!

      April 3, 2012 at 3:53 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      That is what you get for electing radicals. It is your fault for voting them in. Be responsible and vote them out!

      April 3, 2012 at 4:57 pm |
  70. wayne

    The articles are interesting but the comments are always the best.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:49 pm |
  71. jdoe

    These scientists are surely wrong. My GOP friend told me that humans made fire 6000 years ago.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:45 pm |
    • rdeleys

      Yeah, my conservative friends say that too!

      April 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
    • Hey You

      ...and the liberals are waiting for the government to give them fire.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:43 pm |
      • Blah blah the wheel's off your trailer

        No, GWB and the GOP gave us fire when they f-up this country!

        April 3, 2012 at 1:51 pm |
      • ScienceMatters

        I'm a lib and that was funny...

        April 3, 2012 at 1:54 pm |
  72. glades2

    Kind of a silly question – as recent as the 19th Century America most still cooked over open fires – is it any wonder BBQ is still so popular, but that 1 million years ago comment just has to be taken with a grain of salt (lol)...

    April 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
  73. DM

    Man is creating new life in labs today. does that make us God today?

    April 3, 2012 at 12:44 pm |
    • NutGrinder

      The answer to that question is YES.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:59 pm |
    • sumday

      No it doesn't make us G-d, it makes us creators- you know like in G-ds image.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:42 pm |
      • Rick

        Yet before man had created life you SURELY would have insisted till your dying breath that only god could.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
      • Clint

        Sure it does.

        Here I'll explain it for you. "god" exists the same way mickey mouse does.

        Both were invented and created by humans
        Both have millions of people who believe in them
        Both have places of worship where millions, if not billions gather regularly to worship them
        Both are used by those who created them to make money to continue their cause
        Both are the subject of books, movies, cartoons, and tv shows
        Both are fictional characters

        April 4, 2012 at 12:35 am |
    • SouthernCelt

      Really? Sheep maybe, but has any Lab made a Human (other than in vitro). They have tried several time but something always stops them. Accident?

      April 3, 2012 at 4:59 pm |
      • Rick

        He said life, not people, not sheep, not mammals, not animals, just life.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Excuuuuse my presumption.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:33 pm |
  74. Dan

    Don't look here religious fanatics. Go put your head back in the sand.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Ania

      Is that what religious ppl do? im so glad i dont do religion :)

      April 3, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
  75. palintwit

    Did they have Sarah Palin's recipe for s'mores back then ?

    April 3, 2012 at 12:29 pm |
    • WiscBadger

      Your love affair with Palin is getting old. Get some new material.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:12 pm |
      • palintwit

        Kiss my white @ss.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:26 pm |
    • TriPi380

      No seriously. Wasnt funny for the first 50 comments, wont be funny for the next 50 comments. But nice comback, toolbox.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  76. Josh

    Did the find urine too?

    If one man made a fire 1million years ago, another would have surely pee'ed on it.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
    • RF Burns

      You're thinking of an electric fence ; )

      April 3, 2012 at 12:58 pm |
  77. mjcc1987

    This is Obama's fault.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
    • dpcfoh

      I think that comment pretty much goes without saying...

      April 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
      • palintwit

        Sarah Palin is an @ss.

        April 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • SouthernCelt

      If you don't want him, don't vote for him. It is that simple.

      April 3, 2012 at 5:01 pm |
  78. hommededieu

    i bet those early humans did not have the obesity problems we have today.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
    • dpcfoh

      they probably didn't live long enough to get fat, and they probably had to chase down most of their meals... we can get ours by pulling up to a sliding window while seated in our air conditioned cars...

      April 3, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
      • PLD

        Funny!!!!!

        April 3, 2012 at 12:27 pm |
      • Chaotician

        Ahem...it is worth noting that the Native Americans...a hunter-Gatherer society lived very well...so well in fact that the elder chiefs were usually from the Big Belly group! It was one of the crys of outrage of the European descendants wanting to enact the Divine Destiny that these Indians had no needs from the White Man society so they could not be controlled...hence our extermination policies as well as the mass destruction of the subsistance economy of the continent killing everything that walked, crawled, flew, or grew...mostly as a policy to starve the Indians into submission!

        April 3, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
    • conrad

      We should start the 'caveman' diet. It would probably be quite popular.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
      • ....

        It's already a fad.. check out Paleo Diet

        April 3, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
  79. Sleepyinsf

    A small brain than our species? Well, after witnessing our species for thirty-some years, that is indeed scary.

    April 3, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • Sleepyinsf

      *smaller

      April 3, 2012 at 12:02 pm |
    • CatSh

      By the time you get to 50, you will there is a HUGE difference between intelligence – and POTENTIAL intelligence.
      If that's the case and you extrapolate the results vs brain size, these primative humans probably come up fairly equal to modern humans in actual intelligence. I'm sure if they were as dirt-stup1d as most modern humans, they would have never survived long enough to evolve.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:11 pm |
      • conrad

        They surely had no technological knowledge, but I'd imagine they were quite knowledgeable about the natural world. Probably much wiser and more compassionate than we are now that we feel invincible.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:25 pm |
  80. rob

    But wait, this can't be true. The Bible fanatics say the universe is only 5,000 years old, and they're never wrong.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:31 am |
    • Creegirl64

      I hear all kinds of nonsense spew from the mouths of those who can't think for themselves. it IS possible to have faith but not fall prey to the brain-washing. Organized Religion was created to CONTROL the masses. I encourage all to go out and study MANY religions, many faiths. If nothing else, it will broaden your thinking at the least. If you faith brings you strength or comfort when you need, that's great! What cracks me up is when they start to tell you how wrong you are because your beliefs don't fit into their nice little very defined picture of whatever religion they're into. Doesn't your bible say that God tells you "Thou shalt not judge, less ye be judged"?! Let MY Creator judge me, not man!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:40 am |
      • Aunt B

        Please tell me how you think my Faith and relationship with God is contolling me? My God wants me to do many things; but, he gave me a free will to do as I choose. I choose to follow him and do my best to do that which he requests. He is NOT a dictator.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
      • myaileyus

        In my experience, I've never seen a religion that had a valid description of god. The evidence is in reality. Their description of their god doesn't match reality. The only exception is their canned exception – god works in mysterious ways.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
      • EatYouAlive

        Ah, the "free will" argument... sigh... they will never learn...

        April 3, 2012 at 1:35 pm |
      • HIM

        You religious people are pretty rude. Why do you insist on bothering God on his day off? He gave you free will and you use it to ask for stupid selfish things when he's trying to rest.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
      • JT

        @Aunt B. The argument is not that your fairy godmother or old white guy in the sky is controlling you. The fingers point at the ones who have gained through blind allegiance; the clergy.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:55 pm |
      • Atheist In A Foxhole

        If God created the world, who created God?

        April 3, 2012 at 2:54 pm |
      • toxictown

        No, not a dictator, a petulant, sadistic 12yr old boy who delights in tempting and tormenting the little creatures he "made" and if they don't dance to his tune and "love" him enough – he sets them on fire! Who made up this crap?

        April 3, 2012 at 4:24 pm |
      • johnP

        You mean we should not judge you the way you are to us with all your name calling and insults? We are called on to judge using God's word what is truth and what is not. You failed the test my dear!

        April 3, 2012 at 6:55 pm |
    • Creegirl64

      hee hee hee! I hear ya Rob!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:41 am |
    • mjcc1987

      I suspect that the schools in Tennessee have blocked this site………

      April 3, 2012 at 12:06 pm |
      • intothemoonbeam

        Sadly you are probably right

        April 3, 2012 at 12:59 pm |
      • rdeleys

        Kentucky too.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Only because Kentucky is still watching replay's of the NCAA Championship

        April 3, 2012 at 5:03 pm |
    • Dan

      god must have put the bones there to trick us. LOL.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:07 pm |
      • jj

        No, the DEVIL did it!

        April 3, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • kristinakaye

      Duh ... where exactly in the Bible does it say the universe is only 5000 years old? Huh? Definitely not in any Bible I've ever read..

      April 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
      • Chris R

        That conclusion was reached quite some time ago by adding up all the reported ages of the generations of peoples mentioned in the Old Testament since the time of Adam. I mean, it's all hooey but that's the basis for it.

        April 3, 2012 at 12:54 pm |
    • kristinakaye

      Here's a great reply to your flawed logic. You are always 100% correct as evidenced by this remark. If, as youo say the Bible fanatics are never wrong ... then what does that say about your statement?

      April 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
    • conrad

      I'm not a christian, but I can see this comment (repeated everywhere) is hateful and bigoted. Most religious types are capable of seeing the possibility of evolution and God both being real. You just want to characterize them as dumb.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • Hey You

      It's 6,000 yrs old, not 5,000. An Earth only 5,000 yrs old would be plain silly.

      April 3, 2012 at 1:46 pm |
  81. Creegirl64

    I have to admit, reading the banter goign back and forth is much more interesting than the actual article which I found intriguing. Do I believe in a higher power? yes. Do I believe we are still very much ignorant in man's creation, and the earth's early years? HELL YES I think there may be some truth to both sides – scientific evidence proves as much. Anyone ever heard of the Sumerians? Aakadians? I don't claim to KNOW anything – who really does? I think there will be HUGE changes in what we believe in the very near future. As in the past, we will again have to correct our version of "history" and that's a beautiful thing – that we can continue to learn, discover and grow.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:30 am |
    • caw

      The key is science shows the evidence and then explains why they believe what the evidence shows, whereas religious people have no proof only 'you must have faith'.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
      • Chris R

        Science is wonderful at explaining how something happens. It cannot explain *why* something happens though. Science can't say why you love your wife, or why you like fall days, or why you are here. That's fine though – science isn't designed to answer questions like that. Now, you don't need religion to answer those questions but you can't use science.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:04 pm |
      • I'm The Best!

        Pheromones, specific neural pathways, and to pass along genetic material. Science does explain all these things. The religious just don't like the answers and turn to the bible for the made up stories to make them feel better about life.

        April 3, 2012 at 1:22 pm |
    • Truefax

      The Akkadins are still around and well there decendants can be found all over with the surname El-Akkad, El-Aggad, Al-Akkad, Al-Aggad.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
    • MyTake

      "I don't claim to KNOW anything".
      One thing is important. science requires evidence backed up by other know scientist idea (theories) and facts.
      Creation myths only depends on whether you believe it or not ... that's it. You need faith it does not matter whether it is true or not. Science on the other hand is true whether or not you believe it. The knowledge of the univerise through science grows ... creation myths are absolute and unchanging ... which is unlike anything in reality.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:03 pm |
  82. Nerdle Gertz

    Cook? Nah, they probably just hit the drive-through.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:24 am |
  83. JimmyL

    Well... there was no evidence to discount that aliens could not have shared the secret of wonderfully prepared cooked venison, so the answer is most obviously that is indeed what happened. This will sooo be an episode of Ancient Aliens next season: Did Ancient Aliens bring the Secret of Fire to prehistoric man?

    April 3, 2012 at 11:24 am |
    • The Jackdaw

      Well, they must have. Everybody knows that mankind can't figure anything out for itself. We either need gods or aliens, right?

      This line of thinking is insulting to humans.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:30 am |
  84. Christy

    Thank you CNN I really enjoyed reading this :)

    April 3, 2012 at 11:22 am |
  85. Jokesterer

    Eve cooked Adam a huge Thanksgiving dinner every year.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am |
    • steve

      Yes and at Christmas they danced around the Christmas tree and while Eve cooked a standing rib roast.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:36 am |
      • intothemoonbeam

        We're talking about Mitochondrial Eve right?

        April 3, 2012 at 11:41 am |
      • mjcc1987

        Look you heathens, it was a nice spiral ham, some bean casserole, creamy mashed potatoes, and of course lots of long island ice tea………… It’s not as if Eve had to worry about keeping up with the Jones’s!

        April 3, 2012 at 12:12 pm |
      • Julie1234

        @mjcc1987 – Yes, but did the bean casserole have those crispy Durkee fried onions? If not, there is no evidence of evolution. :)

        April 3, 2012 at 12:33 pm |
    • Cheech

      And an apple pie for desert.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:17 pm |
  86. cpc65

    One Million Years B.C.? Did they find Raquel Welch and John Richardson's fossilized remains by the fire pit?

    April 3, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • caw

      No, but they did find the eggs they were hatched from.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
  87. Sybaris

    I wonder if Noah had a special stove so these people could cook on the ark.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • caw

      That's why there are no more unicorns. Noah got hungry.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
  88. Nick DeYoung

    No, man did not cook 1 million years ago.
    Man did not exist 1 million years ago.
    God made man, roughly 10,000 years ago.
    Man cooked 10,000 years ago.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • The Jackdaw

      Yup. God. The short easy answer.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:20 am |
      • GodisaMYTH

        Come on now, even the Churches have begun to realize that man predates the supposed beginning of life.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:24 am |
      • The Jackdaw

        Good. That means that information is seeping into even the most closed of minds.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:27 am |
      • Nick DeYoung

        GodisaMYTH – realize?

        realize what? don't give me theory. be a scientist, if you say fact, give me fact.
        My theory is intelligent design. It is intellectually credible and existentially satisfying.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
      • Smartguy

        "My theory is intelligent design. It is intellectually credible and existentially satisfying." – Yes, if you have the intellectual capacity of a flea.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
      • toxictown

        "Existentially satisfying"...satisfying like a Whopper w/cheese. Doesn't mean it's food.

        April 3, 2012 at 4:30 pm |
    • Pyrate

      Then explain fossils!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:23 am |
      • GodisaMYTH

        The brainwashed Church goer will say they are fabrications. The intelligent person questions everything and does not rule out any possiblities.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:26 am |
      • hawkechik

        So God presumably had nothing better to do than play practical jokes on humans?

        April 3, 2012 at 11:41 am |
      • intothemoonbeam

        Well April fools day was a couple of days ago, maybe Gawd plants fossils every April Fools day.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:42 am |
      • Big Marcus

        Explain fossils? They were put their by God to test your faith.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:53 am |
      • dpcfoh

        @BM I guess God has too much free time on his hands if he's doing things to trick his creation... But, on the other hand, he sounds like a fun guy to hang out with if he thinks of those things..

        April 3, 2012 at 12:16 pm |
      • Romany

        well at least this here church goer belongs to a church that believes the timeline of the bible is not accurate and that creation did not actually occur in 6 physical days as we know them but in God's time and that could indeed have been a considerable amount of time, millions of years. now as a geneticist i will point out the article says a hominid species made this fire 1.5 million years ago not all early hominids are acknowledged as being direct ancestors of man indeed they have yet to make up their minds on the exact family tree standing :-)

        April 3, 2012 at 1:14 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        http://www.creationtoday.org/

        April 3, 2012 at 2:05 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Animals that died a looong time ago. You really should have learned this in elementary school

        April 3, 2012 at 5:36 pm |
    • intothemoonbeam

      Come on man, read a science book. It will do wonders for your obvious lack of education.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:25 am |
      • Nick DeYoung

        netflix -> creatures that defy evolution.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:09 pm |
    • crazypete

      So God is just messing with us? Planting this carbon dating evidence in order to test our faith? God sounds like a bit of a jerk.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:31 am |
      • hawkechik

        That's always been my take on it.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:42 am |
      • dpcfoh

        Ok, that was funny!

        April 3, 2012 at 11:42 am |
      • jimmy

        carbon dating? or what about even radioisotoping? yeah lets trust those. those are accurate. can you sense the sarcasm?

        April 3, 2012 at 12:14 pm |
      • caw

        Hey Jimmy, you'd think that someone might have mentioned Dinosaurs in the bible if they had been around during that time.

        April 3, 2012 at 12:28 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        carbon dating evidence?

        the tree's at the base of st helens after it blew it's top off carbon date to milions of years ago, yet were planted years before the eruption

        April 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
      • I = rubber, U = glue

        @Nick DeYoung

        Please stop lying, Carbon dating is only usable up to 50,000 years.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:26 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        @ I = rubber, U = glue

        50,000 years? is that a fact?

        April 3, 2012 at 3:28 pm |
      • I = rubber, U = glue

        @ Nick DeYoung

        Well its top range is stated as 58,000-62,000 years but i was just getting you in the ball park. You're whole "millions of years" quotation is obviously another thing you made up to spread your lies.

        So yes it is a fact.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:12 pm |
    • JEFF STEVENS

      YOU , JERRY SANDUSKY AND THE CATHOLIC CHURCH THINK IT'S GOOD FOR LITTLE BOYS TO GO TO CONFESSION ALL ALONE RIGHT???

      April 3, 2012 at 11:35 am |
      • Nick DeYoung

        no, no I don't.
        Not Catholic,
        Reformed Christian.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:10 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Would you rather confess in front of your Parent or the guy behind the screen?

        April 3, 2012 at 5:05 pm |
    • YakBassBoss

      The bible doesn't say the earth is only 10,000 years old.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:38 am |
      • dpcfoh

        I thought I remember seeing "Copyright 10,000 B.C." on the inside cover of the bible..

        April 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        You're right. It doesn't

        what's your point?

        April 3, 2012 at 3:06 pm |
    • Sleepyinsf

      You're putting us on, right? For YOUR sake, please tell us you're joking.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:04 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        not joking

        April 3, 2012 at 2:11 pm |
    • emodio

      Don't worry about being picked on about religion. The first men figured out how to do something? with fire and the believed in god too.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:05 pm |
      • xvet

        Yeah I heard found a crucifix right beside the bones.

        xvet

        April 3, 2012 at 12:31 pm |
    • UglyTruth

      Man created God!

      April 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
      • emodio

        10,000 years ago

        April 3, 2012 at 12:13 pm |
    • UglyTruth

      Rag headed men living in caves invented spirits, gods, god, religion, belief, faith.
      Man created God. (Amen! as my T shirt reads)
      or
      Super God created God.
      Super duper God created Super God ...

      April 3, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • MyTake

      Physics and chemistry are a real problem for young earth creationist know-nothings. They dismiss dating techniques without a corresponding reason based on physics that what we observe is not actually happening. Creationist can't even agree on what bones are human and what they claim are totally NOT human ... and yet the throngs of zealot robots parrot their lies and misinformation as absolute truth ... sad really.

      April 3, 2012 at 2:16 pm |
      • Nick DeYoung

        again, look above.

        dating techniques – date things with huge inaccuracies.
        dating techniques – use circular reasoning.

        http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=42

        sorry I'm more of a scientist than to just 'accept' things.

        like something came from nothing.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:14 pm |
      • Svetlana22

        I just wish we could have a civilized conversation about science without religion coming into play....sigh.

        April 3, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  89. FoolKiller

    “Prior to the new findings, scientists had good evidence that humans had total control over fire at least 400,000 years ago” I understand what they were trying to say, but given that we seem to hear daily of yet another out of control wildfife, I wonder if they might have said it better.

    April 3, 2012 at 11:07 am |
  90. Jokesterer

    Cooking would definitely make dinosaur meat more palatable.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:58 am |
    • crazypete

      Speak for yourself. I personally would love some Brontosaurus tartar and Tyrannosaurus sashimi. Yum!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:33 am |
    • mjcc1987

      Flintstones... Meet the Flintstones,
      They're a modern stoneage family.
      From the town of Bedrock,
      They're a page right out of history.
      Let's ride with the family down the street.
      Through the courtesy of Fred's two feet.
      When you're with the Flintstones,
      have a yabba dabba doo time,
      a dabba doo time,
      we'll have a (DON’T SAY) gay old time

      Flintstones... Meet the Flintstones,
      They're a modern stoneage family.
      From the town of Bedrock,
      They're a page right out of history.
      Someday, maybe Fred will win the fight,
      And that cat will stay out for the night.
      When you're with the Flintstones,
      have a yabba dabba doo time,
      a dabba doo time,
      we'll have a “traditional hetro” old time

      April 3, 2012 at 12:18 pm |
      • Clint

        Back in the good ol'e days when the word "gay" just meant happy.

        April 4, 2012 at 12:23 am |
  91. Bobbie

    It's obvious that this never happened because there's proof....and it's obvious that Jesus will come back because there's no proof that he was here in the first place????? There are none so blind as those who will not see.

    April 3, 2012 at 10:56 am |
    • Dean100343

      Read some history.......Try Aelianus Tacticus or Flavius Josephus.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:12 am |
      • manofscience

        Dean – it's interesting you bring up Flavius because his version of the death of John the baptist and James the brother of Jesus differ from the biblical accounts. Although there is a general agreement amoung scholars that his account of Jesus with the exception if the crucifiction is without "tampering". So, that is proof that he existed. Nothing more.
        But this is, at best, problematic for those who think of themselves as scientific minded Christians and that the bible is infallable.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:54 am |
  92. Gumby

    How can this be, when the Earth is only 6,000 years old?

    April 3, 2012 at 10:21 am |
  93. AC

    The real answer is obvious! Humans, from the 12 colonies of Kobal fled their homes when Cylons attacked and destroyed their civilization. After 4 long years they arrived on (New) Earth and started having shenangians with the "locals" (yes Baltar you ARE genetically compatible with them...) Meanwhile the Half Cylon Half Human crossbred offspring of two of those colonists gave rise to a new type of human that had the knowledge of how to make fire. This has all happened before and will happen again. So say we all!

    April 3, 2012 at 10:20 am |
    • Gumby

      AC for the win!

      April 3, 2012 at 10:22 am |
      • intothemoonbeam

        I love Battlestar! And the spinoff "Caprica" was such a disappointment!

        April 3, 2012 at 11:27 am |
    • Eyeball73

      Thank god! Another nerd like me. Why oh why did they cancel that show?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:34 am |
      • yaledelay

        I don't think they canceled it, it had run its course perfectly. It ended great... and yes big ups to AC.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:04 am |
      • machinehead

        Just be glad syfy allowed it to complete the storyline. Anything more intelligent than dinocroc armegeddon is killed off by them to make way for wrasslin'.

        April 3, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
    • FoolKiller

      Talk about stating the obvious. ;)

      April 3, 2012 at 11:08 am |
    • The Jackdaw

      Well done. Slow clap!

      April 3, 2012 at 11:23 am |
    • Rfd3351

      @AC: That was only 150,000 years ago, IIRC. @intothemoonbeam – Caprica was going to be another great series, but NBC bought SyFy and decided they needed more idiot movies like Croctopus and Swamp Volcano and fewer shows geared towards folks with brains.

      April 3, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Craig in KC

      Two big thumbs up AC. First intelligent post on this blog!

      April 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • MyTake

      My eyes are open ... now I want to see the series all over again ... thanks ... thanks a lot ... ;-)

      April 3, 2012 at 2:08 pm |
    • Svetlana22

      this comment made me happy :)

      April 3, 2012 at 3:42 pm |
  94. Chrissy

    So much for the lineage of Jesus Christ...

    April 3, 2012 at 4:19 am |
  95. jerry

    This is just more secular propaganda. NObama and his socialist democraps would love for us to believe this garbage. what are you lib scientists going to do when Jesus comes back and puts a boot up your ass?

    April 3, 2012 at 4:12 am |
    • Simon S

      Religions were invented by man to explain things they did not understand.

      Those who lead religions do so to control those who are incapable of independent thought.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:28 am |
      • ZarGoth

        Thank you!

        April 3, 2012 at 4:36 am |
      • Dave

        Yes!

        April 3, 2012 at 10:45 am |
      • GraceandMercy

        EVERY knee shall bow and EVERY tongue shall confess. Enough said.

        April 3, 2012 at 10:50 am |
      • GodisaMYTH

        Also created to subjugate the masses and give them something to believe in while the leaders went about the real business.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:28 am |
      • emodio

        You don't have to believe in god to be a Republican. I wish stupid people would untangle religion and politics. Just shows how far individuals have come in a million years......can't make a fire...cant' have an original thought without relgion

        April 3, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
      • Jack

        Indeed

        April 3, 2012 at 1:13 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        No, Science was created to explain the things we didn't understand. I understand you confusion, after all several sciences were founded by Priests, since the Church was the only place you could get educated.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:08 pm |
    • old guy

      Lib scientists have developed meds for paranoia schizophrenia.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:30 am |
    • Gumby

      Jesus wore boots?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:22 am |
      • GraceandMercy

        Too funny, I was thinking the same thing.

        April 3, 2012 at 10:51 am |
      • dpcfoh

        Do you think they were cowboy boots, or those work boots with the steel toes?

        April 3, 2012 at 11:45 am |
      • Kev

        Are you saying Jesus wouldn't wear boots? You probably think he couldn't hit a curveball, either. You are deluded.

        April 3, 2012 at 11:48 am |
      • dpcfoh

        I thought I read somewhere that he was a lefty. Do you think he threw left and batted right?

        April 3, 2012 at 12:08 pm |
      • jerry

        You can tell me when you pull the footwear from your colon you heathen SOB!

        April 3, 2012 at 3:22 pm |
    • Eyeball73

      Jerry, I'm guessing (and hoping) that you made that totally ignorant post just to rile up the more enlightened people. Yes?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:36 am |
      • apeman

        I wish it was a joke.....

        April 3, 2012 at 11:16 am |
    • brian

      Do you think he will arrive before the Easter Bunny?

      April 3, 2012 at 10:52 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        only if he gets here in the next 4 days :-)

        April 3, 2012 at 5:10 pm |
    • Chris

      I won't even try to defend the scientists. My only observation is that you clearly follow what jesus says because he is jesus and what the church says because it is the church. How is that different from following science? Aside from the obvious fact that science is based on facts.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:01 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        I bet I know more Science than you and I still Believe.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • 451F

      boot up the ass doesn't sound like the jesus i read about

      April 3, 2012 at 11:16 am |
      • dpcfoh

        unfortunately those who strongly defend their religion will do it with violence, even though their bible teaches them the opposite...

        April 3, 2012 at 11:47 am |
      • dpcfoh

        although there was a lot of smiting going on in the bible, so maybe violence is the path to enlightenment..

        April 3, 2012 at 12:10 pm |
      • jerry

        You probably read about jesus in some school book at some liberal brainwashing camp ("college"). Real americans don't need fancy book learning you commie. Read the bible you atheist!

        April 3, 2012 at 3:24 pm |
      • SouthernCelt

        Did you hear about Him chasing the money lenders out of the temple? Completely Human and Completely Divine at the same time.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:13 pm |
    • hawkechik

      Well, I can see yours is a "loving" god.

      April 3, 2012 at 11:43 am |
      • SouthernCelt

        Yes, most Father's are. Like other Father' s however, He does have a temper.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
      • mcewenpe

        And evidently, he's jealous. Of whom I never quite got.

        April 3, 2012 at 5:19 pm |
    • rstlne

      Jesus wore sandals – not boots. And I don't remember hearing that he ever physically accosted anyone – believer or not. Remember, "Judge not, lest you be judged."

      April 3, 2012 at 11:51 am |
    • xvet

      Some lib scientist may save your life one day although you'll still claim it was a miracle. Haven't you seen the pics jesus wore sandals, boots evolved from sandals, sandals evolved from barefeet, proof that evolution exists.

      xvet

      April 3, 2012 at 12:41 pm |
    • MyTake

      Troll much? LOL - No one is *this* ignorant ... right ?... right?

      April 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm |
  96. Cyric

    Religious nutballs declare the "devil" put the evidence in the cave to "trick" mankind! Or as Americans like to call it, the Republican Party.

    April 3, 2012 at 4:02 am |
    • trueguy4ever

      Right, go back and drink some more kool aid. Such rubbish.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:20 am |
      • MyTake

        Okay ... tell us how many GOP candidates subscribe to creationist nonsense?
        By my count all but 2 or 3 -
        – Romney
        – Huntsman
        not sure where Gingrich stands though

        April 3, 2012 at 2:02 pm |
    • Nick DeYoung

      what 'evidence' and what 'cave'.

      Please expound what you are trying to say.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:10 pm |
      • I = rubber, U = glue

        @ NIck DeYoung

        My guess is he is referring to the Cave and Evidence from the article. Do you even read the articles? Or do you just jump right in and spout your lies/nonsense about evolution being a hoax?

        April 3, 2012 at 3:31 pm |
  97. mmi16

    What! – No recepies for the food channel?

    April 3, 2012 at 3:57 am |
  98. JJ in Chula Vista, CA

    @SixDegrees, I think the scientists studying the information touched on two possible explanations that are more likely: either that ancient, ancestral humans cooked their food, in which case there was evidence left around some kind of fire pit (more than likely), or, as the article stated, they simply threw the remains of animals, like their bones after eating them, into the fire. If this was the case, I suspect they might have done this for some kind of ancient ritualistic activity that's left to unwritten history. It's certainly not impossible that ancient humans found and gathered remains of animals following a wild fire in the area. But there's much to be said about where these samples were found and this article isn't all together clear.

    April 3, 2012 at 3:31 am |
    • Kevin Mc

      Or, they ate the food uncooked and threw the bones on the fire to keep large predators from coming into the cave attracted to the bones or food remains.

      April 3, 2012 at 4:22 am |
  99. SixDegrees

    Interesting. I wonder if another explanation might be that they simply gathered the occasional animal killed in local grass fires?

    April 3, 2012 at 3:04 am |
  100. Mack

    FIRST

    April 2, 2012 at 3:59 pm |
    • MackIsGay

      I would like to be your first mack.

      April 3, 2012 at 3:03 am |
    • apeman

      No me first...

      April 3, 2012 at 11:18 am |
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