By Elizabeth Landau, CNN
Scientists have discovered what could be a massive planet outside our solar system, NASA said Monday.
Astronomers used infrared data from the Subaru Telescope in Hawaii to identify Kappa Andromedae b, a "super-Jupiter" object that appears to be nearly 13 times the mass of Jupiter.
The planet orbits a star called Kappa Andromedae. It's not entirely certain whether Kappa Andromedae b is a planet, however, NASA said. If it can generate energy by fusion, it would be considered a "brown dwarf" star.
Fusion is the process by which atomic nuclei combine, releasing a huge amount of energy. The sun produces energy by fusing the common form of hydrogen into helium. But a brown dwarf fuses deuterium, a heavier form of hydrogen gas. Brown dwarf stars are dimmer and cooler than other stars, but purely in the temperature sense; they have also been called "failed stars."
Planets do not produce energy through fusion. However, planets do emit heat that is left over from their own formation.
If it is a brown dwarf, Kappa Andromedae b would have the lowest possible mass for a brown dwarf.
The discovery sets a record for Kappa Andromedae, the host star. It is now the most massive star to host a planet that has been directly imaged, or to have a lightweight brown dwarf companion.
The research comes from a five-year effort called the Strategic Explorations of Exoplanets and Disks with Subaru (SEEDS).
You can see the star Kappa Andromedae without a telescope; it is in the direction of the nearby constellation Andromeda. But you won't be visiting any time soon, since the star is 170 light years away.
Slate blogger Phil Plait emphasizes that this discovery is exciting because although scientists have detected more than 850 planets beyond our solar system, few of them have been directly detected. In other words, it's not often that we can get an image with light coming from them - here's a gallery of the ones we know about.
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This story has intriguing implications. Our Jupiter has lots of moons. Some are distinctive worlds in themselves. One, Europa, has an icy surface that might conceal oceans of liquid water. And we all know what that might mean.
So is the same true of Kappa Andromedae b? And other exo-Jupiters? Many if not most of those discovered so far have been hot giants orbiting close to their suns. So if they have moons with water on them, and the temperature is right . . . well, consider the possibilities!
Thank for this information is reales.
Hmm what an inspirering event
NASA, like Big Bird, is a big waste of government funding. The only way this economy gets back on its feet is if we outsource all our civilian jobs to China and then next week totally deny that we ever did that or SAY that we would do that. Romney 2012!!!
I just spotted Kolob. It's a Super Uranus.
screw the economy you hick
This would not be the planet known as Niburo (spelling), you know the one that is supposed to throw off the alignment in December? I am not joking, can someone answer this please?
A planet (or brown dwarf) 170 light years away would not affect anything. Not that there is any planet near by going to affect anything in the next month. For any object to come close enough to actually do that much damage, it would have been spotted by now. Not even any large rocks near by right now on a path near us.
Ha! Only if it's traveling towards us at warp 8! It only has a month to get here...that is, if you believe any of that nonsense. :-)
Poor soul MITH ROBBERY!!!!
He lost already crawl back under your rock.
If we drop 1/32 solar mass of oxygen on the sun and light a match we will get a sharp bang and a Super Water World
You mean 32 solar masses of oxygen, genius$$. H2O, right?
That would be throwing our $$ into a Black Holebama
Super Jupiter is a waste of taxpayer money. We coulda baked 1,000,000,000 Twinkies with that kind of Doh!
Message to all stars in the universe....Those planets orbiting around you, you didn't build that.
Actually they kind of did
You're not Mitt Romney. I can tell you that because ahh...you spelled his name wrong.
I can tell you're not Black Oblameowe because you spelled his name wrong
I do not know this Black Oblameowe, but...ah...I can assure you and the american people that my name is spelled correctly. I think I...ah...know how to spell my own name.
ha ha. Jupiter doesn't exist and neither does this so called "exoplanet" Space isn't even real. If space did in fact exist(it doesn't) then why pray tell can the average American not go to this so called "space". Its a conspiracy if you ask me.
A Jewish conspiracy
I can assure you that there is no conspiracy about space. If you ask me about it, ah, I will exercise executive privileges not to answer, but I can assure you and the american people that space is real.
Exoplanet is completely landlocked. You need permission from Pakistan to go there.
The article says the MASS is nearly 13x that of Jupiter. This does not mean it is 13x the size. Jupiter is mostly gas anyways so for all we know the earth could be 13x the mass of jupiter, or more! Big deal...
No. We know Jupiter's mass from, among other things, the orbits of its moon (a = v^2/r = GM/r^2), amply confirmed by using its gravity well to capture, deflect or accelerate various spacecraft quite accurately.
We know exactly how much mass Jupiter has.
Please go back to school and actually pay attention instead of nodding in and out of science class and picking up a couple of words.
Ok, so I'm actually smart, you guys are all so dumb it's not even funny.
So what! Look far enough, long enough and hard enough I am sure you will find a few/many more. Then what?
Get a wholllllllllle bunch of gas canisters there and fill'er up! Just think of how many Hindenbergs you could inflate!
Then... we have a distribution of planets in mass, distance from star, etc., improving our models of formation/evolution composition/structure of solar systems, planets, and progenitor gas clouds and earlier metal-producing supernova, thus improving our understanding of the Earth, Moon, Mars, asteroids, comets, gas giants, Kuiper Belt and the Oort cloud, allowing to us better: understand the variability of our sun; the possibility of finding life and natural resources on the Moon, Mars, asteroids, and other solar system moons; predict the likelihood of comets and asteroids colliding with Earth and causing nuclear winters or mass extinctions. /sharp intake of breath
And then the poster would say "then what?"
But you covered it fairly well, thanks.
"a massive planet outside our solar system"
Oh, OUTSIDE. Whew! Cause we could have missed it if it were inside our solar system.
DON'T BELIEVE THESE PEOPLE. WHY WOULD I CREATE BILLIONS OF SUNS AND PLANETS IF I WAS ONLY GOING TO CREATE LIFE ON ONE OF THEM? A VIEW?
JUST REMEMEBR TO........
BOW, YIELD, KNEEL!
The stars? You didn't build that.
Oh God, it's as big as Moochelle's A$$!!!!
Who is Moochelle?
ITS HEADING RIGHT FOR US
we're going to need a bigger solar system !
It's headed right for Uranus. You will get a bigger one.
If you believe we put a man on the moon.......man on the moooooooon, If you believe theres nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool........hahaha I had a really good time reading all these posts!!!!
Will someone buy me a telescope big enough to see it? $4B USD should be OK. You can come over and use it anytime you want, honest......
I just bought a Celestron AstroMaster 130 EQ , what do you have? Maybe we can put them together lol
A$$master 2000? Let's dock!
I don't get it. I wish Morgan Freeman would come explain this to me.
"But you won't be visiting any time soon, since the star is 170 light years away."
Why in the world would anyone want to visit a STAR? Have you even heard of a single volunteer to visit the Sun? I haven't. Maybe there are more obstacles of visiting a star than just 170 light year distance.
It is a planet, not a star. It orbits a star just like earth is orbiting the sun.
I can assure you and the american people that Earth's distance from the exoplanet and Earth's distance from the star is basically the same thing.
How else do you gain enough velocity to go back in time and save the whales?
This is reality, Greg.
I'm going to go to the sun but I'm going to be smart and avoid burning up by going up at night.
The stupider are from Jupider. Amen brother!
I really wish I could go to ONE astronomy article and not see atheists trying to start a sandbox fight with creationists. Give it a rest, people. Can't you just enjoy the beauty of the universe without trying to muck it up with your worthless arguments?
My opinion is that Evolution is the mechanism of creation.
I agree. Except that Creation is the mechanism of evolution.
Evolution? It didn't build you.
What I see is you starting a fight over nothing, and no posts by atheists(unless you count actually believing in planets as atheism). How about you put a sock in it?
This Just In!!! A new planet has been discov...no, wait...false alarm. There was a spec on my telescope lens.
That's not a planet it's a space station. Quick put on the reverse thrusters... too late we're in the tractor beam.
i bet you have a bad feeling about it too.
I guess we found Honey Boo Boo child's grandmother!
Correction, you and the american people have actually just found her mother.
At least it wasn't a Super-Uranus. Imagine the jokes we'd get with that one.
By Jove, that's no planet...it's a space station.
Your mom is so fat, she makes Super-Jupiter look like Regular-Jupiter.
Since the passage of time DECREASES at close to but less than the speed of light and at a constant acceleration of only one G we can soon reach a speed less than light that this planet would onl;y be a few perhaps only 170 light MONTHS distant. Think about that, (you morons)
You are right. In fact you can tour the universe in a lifetime at 99% the speed of light. Of course every one you ever knew would be dead when you return but o well
Return?? Why on (what might be left of) earth would any one want to??
Why are you so angry? Because we are not as "smart" as you? Why do you think it is called a light year?...because that is the distance LIGHT travels in a year...now please explain your theory.
But you can't achieve an acceleration of 1G for very long. As you speed increases, the amount of power you need to maintain that accelleration increases. Remember kinetic energy is one-half mv squared. At near light speed, your kinetic energy would be one-half mc squared, which is only half of Einsteins e=mc(squared). In other words, you would have to turn half of your spaceships mass efficiently into pure energy to get to that speed, and this is extraordinary. Even an atom bomb, which converts mass to energy, only converts about one-tenth of one percent of its uranium mass to energy.
I wish Sheldon would explain all this to me!!!
awesome story. i am the actual queen of jupiter according to family legend, and my grandmother was named venus, so i feel like i am the natural earth diplomat to send out their and make contact.
what the hell are you talking about
I agree...I am the King of Queens and my brother is Neptune, a killer sailor from the artic sea who washes his laundry with Tide.
Don't mind them. They live in Seattle. They're gonna be a little trippy until the weed wears off.
probably close to queenuranus
Your family must really miss the 60's.
People are usaully hostile when they don't understand...
All must bow before me.
First off, we are not alone. There are other complex, intelligent life forms such as us in the universe, however, we are a rare breed. Second, there is a god, just not the kind of god you are all expecting. It's not a he or a she, it's an "it", and "it" has a concience because we cannot be above what created us, so if WE have a concience, then so does what created us.
Thirdly, we are basically all floating on a spec of dust (earth), and it's amazing that we think of ourselves on such a grandious scale when in reality, you would never know we existed if you were just standing on the moon looking at Earth. We are little, people...very little.
I think you've been reading too much L. Rod Hubbard (or Joe Blitz).
I'd love to believe that the universe is filled with intelligent life. At the moment, there is not one speck of evidence to indicate that life exists anywhere but on our own planet. You can argue that out there among all the hundreds of billions of galaxies – each containing hundreds of billions of stars – life must have surely evolved elsewhere. That is a reasonable statement, but it is not proof.
I suspect that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, but it seems unlikely that we will ever meet them. We are too far apart, and there is no way to travel between stars.
Reading some of the news stories, I'm not convinced there is intelligent life HERE.
Yeah yeah yeah...and 600 years ago there was no proof the world was round.
Did it ever occur to you that we are very primitive and that just because we haven't figured out whether anything exists out there or not or how to get there through space travel, doesn't mean it can't be done. I would imagine that there are other life forms out there much further ahead on this subject than we are, and we just haven't caught up yet. Your post being a prime example of the primitive thought we are relegated to at this point.
WELL SAID NOT ONE SPECK OR SPOCK
The idea that people thought the earth was flat 600 or even 1000 years ago is a myth. Before the fall of Rome and as far back as the birth of the written language, the ancients knew the earth was round. The common, uneducated laborer may have believed in flat earth, but the ancients knew a h3ll of a lot more than the common uneducated man of today gives them credit for. These civilizations that came before us knew more than we have forgotten. All of this wonderful science we take for granted today is because of the knowledge your ancestors whispered through the ages.
" We are too far apart, and there is no way to travel between stars." I think Carl Sagan wrote about this; odds are that the closest intelligent race to us hasn't evolved yet, or died out when we were cavemen, and that we will have actually died of DNA-decay long before we could find them. Vernor Vinge thinks they might have sent us messages, though.
Can you invite me to your cave? I want to talk to you.
I think you mean consciousness, there's a big difference between conscience and consciousness.
I had to LOL at that, Dave.
Caveman, good analysis Ive often thought that way myself about humans and the earth. riight-on Bro!
Actually, you can see our cities lights from the moon when that part of Earth is not in sunlight. So, if you were standing on the moon, you could infer that something unusual was happening on this speck.
Don't mind calling to attention how small Earth is, but if you don't actually speak fact, no one will believe the rest of your story.
Also known as Nibiru.
but are the ancient Sumerian gods riding along with it.
Way too far away to be the mythical Nibiru.
Well... It may be approaching, that's the why it hadn't been discovered before... ;)
I think your right..
If God is so powerful and omnipotent, why does he get so angry if we don't blindly worship him constantly?
Seems more like an angry tween with a magnifying glass looking at an anthill.
Man believes at the level of his/her understanding...
In other words you don't know.
Because man created God in man's image.
Science is king!
So do we call it "Supiter?
What does my mother-in-law have to do with this?
How did god create light on the 1st day but didn't create any source of light such as our sun or other stars, or anything else for that matter until the 4th day? Also, why did it take god 6 whole days just to create the earth when it took him only 1 day to create hundreds of billions of galaxies, each containing trillions of stars and billions of planets, including other earth-like planets?
Better yet. What's the difference between fairytales and horseradish?
Can God make horseradish so hot that he can't eat it?
you come to a science forum and bring up topics about god...if you're sooo smart, why stoop to that level and try discussing a real topic? you people annoy me.
Everything you say, do, think and feel has nothing to do with anything but you...communicating your feelings make you transparent.
Perhaps you should read Gregg Braden's "Divine Matrix" in which he explains how science and spirituality are converging...there is an energy matrix throughout the universe that everything is connected to, in which everthing is created. footnotes included.
Anything can be ‘explained’ if you ignore factual evidence and implies ones personal theories and interpretations are facts.
Why does the porridge bird lay its egg in the air?
I'm hoping that Richard Branson and Paul Allen get them spaceship gizmos flying soon so I can take a quick jaunt out to that thar uber-planet!
what you think bout that thar lectrcity?
Isnt God so amazing?! Thank you God for allowing us to explore your creations! Looking forward to hear about more discoveries of your creations! Love you Jesus!!
This isn't an article about religion.
Oh dear god.
I thank God too for all of his creation. He keeps up focused on him through all things.
Its called freedom of speech and James can thank anyone he wants. Amen
Wha-bam! The Victim Card.
Freedom of speech, indeed. We can say that James, Annette, and Nichole have evolved slightly above the Bronze Age. Congratulations on your achievement. Now, please stop holding back the rest of us who managed this feat about 3000 years ago.
Give me a break! If loving your imaginary friend gets you through the day then so be it but just remember we put our kids in therapy for talking to their imaginary friend, you could be next......lol
It is amazing the people that hate on those who have faith. They have nothing to look forward to except an eternity in a pine box 6 feet below ground. No wonder they are miserable.
I don't believe in god but I thank him every day for all the fine tail that roams on my planet
We dont hate you knuckleheads...we just feel sorry that you believe in fairy tales
"They have nothing to look forward to except an eternity in a pine box 6 feet below ground." When I go, I'll leave behind a lot of friends, a lot of things I've written or drawn or painted or otherwise created; my son will go on into the future and my wife will be sad. I do my living today and try not to waste my time. No, I don't expect to come back and live forever on a cloud; how boring and awful would that be? I've seen all sorts of miracles and wonders and startlements in my life, and I expect more; we have a robot on Mars right now. Life's an adventure, and I've lived it, not that I jump out of planes or hunt wild boar or drink all night with wild women. OK, let's just say I don't drink all night with wild women anymore.
"Thank you God for allowing us to explore your creations! " This is how you are supposed to react when some new truth is uncovered, not blind denial and rage. If it's true, it's true, including the age of the world and the Earth's orbit.
It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's SUPITER!
I wonder if this is the Nibiru thing I've been hearing about.
It's a 170 light years away, so unless planets develop some form of warp drive spontaneously... no it isn't coming close to us in the next... oh I'd say FOREVER.
FYI, if Nibiru existed it would have to travel far out into our Solar system to have the apparent cycle the "believers" believe in, in which case, once it was incoming we'd have something like a few hundred, hell maybe even a thousand years, in which to spot it and plot its course through the solar system. So no, no Nibiru, unless the evil Reptillians painted the entire damn planet in Stealth mass-shrouding paint or something.
is it not amazing how a story on discovery lead to a debate whether God exist or not?. that only goes to prove one thing, somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of the existence of God, but because we have decided to be close minded and be non-objective in our thinking, we do not see the realities of the things that we talk about. nobody ever seeks to see God and doesn't see him. all the people that try to see him always see him.
Close minded and non objective???? And you are referring to non believers???? Pot calling the kettle here.....
You don't know how silly you sound. Debating whether or not god exists is like debating whether or not the tooth fairy exists. Your god will exist when it is proven and not until then. I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me if I sat here and made up absurd, magical nonsense either.
Objective: meaning, basically, impartial. As an impartial observer, it seems reasonable to expect that only people who believe in God would find Him. The rest of us have to rely on their inherently subjective opinions. Opinions, which are, frankly, at best a bit inspiring, normally a downer and at worst offensive.
Good stuff! can I have a Hit too?
Which god are you referring too exactly? I mean there are quite a few of them out there. Also, how convenient for you that god is a male.
that only goes to prove one thing
That you theist consistently beat everyone over the head with your basely theories of existence and people who live their lives based on factual reality get tired of it?
And then there are those how "know" what reality is, like you, and then belittle those who disagree. "The world is an illusion" A. Einstein. A person who thinks they know everything typically knows very little. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving TTTPS
Every damn science article ends up full of fundies yammering about god, it's unavoidable.
"that only goes to prove one thing, somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of the existence of God" How does that prove anything? If we were arguing about Bigfoot, would it mean that somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of Sasquatch? How about Lord of the Rings? The fact that we can argue about whether or not Gandalf was one of the Noldor means the whole book is TRUE?
Can't believe how many truly ignorant people post on here – go and get a job. This assumes you can read, write and and use basic mathematics, which most of you seem to be incapable of !!!!!
Ignorant!? do not treat people ignorant if they do have another idea than yours!!
I suspect a lot of these folks are sitting around in the public/homeless area of the public library, indignantly protecting God from our insulting science until their hour runs out and someone else gets to use the computer, and yes, they'd probably love a job.
Sal, good post. Open minds are essential to any and all research. Rubbish about god and things like creationism have absolutely NO place in the advancement of human knowledge.
dismissing future events based on the timid incomplete tech and understanding we currently have is the height of stupidity and worse the height of religious arrogance(for those who base their whole argument around the ;god did this for us to look at not touch' dogma .. the fact is we have means of going there, some are too slow to do so in a single lifetime, most require generational ships but those are not out of the realm of possibility. another fact is as our understanding of elemental physics expand we discover that light is not the upper limit of speed, we can actually communicate at faster than light speeds with modern tech (not practical but proven feasible which is the first step)
NASA and other agencies and private companies are working on the break through tech that will get us there, some believe we already have such tech(i do not dismiss this out of hand because we know certain gov agencies have tech 5oyrs+ more advanced than we have been allowed to know. warp drive, a feasible version has been presented and in the course of time since its inception has been improved upon. magentohydrodynac drives are also viable and we have begun to understand how to tap energies more than sufficient to propel these create without breaking einsteins lightspeed limit. so i recommend you do some serious research into what we are capable of currently before suggesting what we can not do in the future.
only a close mind is incapable of seeing that we have much left to learn and somewhere in that vast body of unknown data may lay the solution to all the problems the 'god' faction dismiss without considering they may be wrong to put stock in a bronze age skygod who didnt tell us our little mudball was just 1 of trillions which makes me wonder if this skygod actually knew or if it was just a fable to help scared small minded people feel safe while dictating the way they should impose it on everyone else to drag them down into mythos and out of the light of science.
error correction ... 50yrs, if not a lot more
please excuse my typonese ... its get a bit annoying this late(for me) at night) however my points stand as valid ... if you chose to bury your head in the sand(or a book that is from a time when the understanding of the universe was less than incomplete and actively in opposition to understanding things beyond simplistic tribal prejudices and hatred of things that disprove your individual delusions that is entirely up to you, it does stop at imposing those those dictates from a skygod, whose existences is dubious at best, murderous in execution by its followers at worst. no individual nor their organized hate group has the right to impose their dogma on the rest of us because our works disporve so much of that dogma
Like and agree with your simple and obviously logical comments. Uneducated and/or otherwise simply stupid people will always produce conspiracy theories, theories about non-existant gods, creationsm theories along with purely nonsense speculation about other events etc. (UFOs, Atlantis etc. etc.)
Learning new knowledge, overturning previously accepted facts and replacing them with newly learned "Facts" (which may themselves be overturned in time as our factual knowledge advances) is inevitable. Humans HAVE to accept that they wil NEVER know everthing and may NEVER be able to.
GOD created all the galaxies, stars and planets;
and He has thus put His most magnificent "Mathematical Signature" on them:
UNIVERSAL MAGNIFICENT MIRACLES
I I like astronomic news.
Did the Creator God also created that planet during his creaation period?
YES God created everything, he created things like this just to say look at what i can do, explore
Well, he was certainly successful with suffering and wars...look what I can do!!
Heck ya, Wars Gods Video Game. sound about right, sucks to be just a Human I guess?
Is God really so nervous about what people think that he feels the need to create all of this stuff to impress a few human beings? I mean we are talking about "God" here right???? Why would he care what a few people with a puny understanding of the universe think. When I bought an ant farm as a kid I did not build super amazing and unimaginable structures and objects to win over the admiration of the ants. :P
For anyone to think they know God's intentions is ridiculous...is it pssible that her intentions are beyond our understanding? There is war and poverty...is it possilbe that in God there is no right or wrong? Is it possible that our judgements are based on our humanness?
For anyone to think they know God's intentions is ridiculous.. Just as it is ridiculous to think they know the Easter Bunny’s intentions.
"ridiculous to think they know the Easter Bunny’s intentions." The Easter Bunny delivers his eggs with icy contempt for all humanity. He wishes us all dead, but the ancient Curse of Œstrus compels him to gather and distribute eggs to the hated human oppressors. One day he will find the strength to poison us all . . .
Why does God have to be even spoken about in an article on discovery of a new planet. Is it not wsie to have an open mind?
This discovery tells us how vast, wide, high and broad creation is. Man has not seen anything yet. I think God allows these discoveries to tell man that He God is great. All of these discoveries should lead man to faith and trust in God but interestingly some stupid scientists think that they are so smart. Well, Gods hands are widely open for their salvation anyways.
Stupid scientists?? I will take an open minded education over brainwashing any day, and you have been brainwashed big time!
Again we are talking about God here right???? creator of the universe, Mr. Omnipotent??? You actually believe if he did build all this he did it to impress you???? Sorry mate you are not that important. And if God is real. 1: I doubt we are his only intelligent creation. 2: He is probably so beyond our comprehension I doubt we would ever know his plan for us, or how he expects us to act for that matter. 3: You saying you understand why God did all this and you "understanding" what he wanted of us and how he wants us to live is a great insult to this God. If anything he would be angry and frustrated at the fact you think you understand him. We are like ants in an ant farm to him.
emmanuel. and why was that name bestowed upon you? the apple does not fall far from the tree ? u r yet another example of unfortunate parental indoctrination.
Fine, just keep your god off my lawn.
'I think God allows these discoveries to tell man that He God is great.'
he has self esteem issues does he? needs some kind of affirmation from us? aww, poor thing.
" but interestingly some stupid scientists think that they are so smart. " Says a person using a computer to send messages coded into ones and zeroes across the world to other computers via geostationary satellites. How about you log off and just send your posts to this website by praying them? Get back to me when that happens, ok? Geez, some people . . .
nasa waste of monry
Apparently so was your education.
NASA's Budget is less than 0.5% of the federal budget. Yet even with this tiny expenditure it not only performs it's mission, but creates new technologies that benefit all mankind (as well as tidy profits that the Government can tax). Out of all the programs that the Government funds, this is one of the very few that not only pays for itself, but many others as well.
So tell me again how NASA is a waster of money?
Why? It's very interesting and may be useful for understanding of nature.
I'm a magician (not ilusionist)! I did evil things to get more power and skills! and i can tell you that god and evil exist ! science science blind your eyes guys.
what the heck does your response have to do with anything
"Do good, avoid evil, keep the mind pure." – Buddha
Evil is more fun.
Hey, aren't you that guy who ate a Corgi? Did you gain the power to bark like a dog? How about squeal like a pig? All life is an illusion, grasshopper.
170 light years away, eh? That means they're looking back at us, now just seeing the California gold rush!
Oy my God . . . it's NIBIRU and it coming to Earth! Don't worry guys it is definitely not 12-21-12. The Mayans had it wrong, it is 12-12-21!
we will still be here
No, you are wrong, it is 21-21-2121
(and don't be bothered about month indexing)
I thought it was 1212121212121212121212121...
It is a SIN in the eyes of GOD to look outside his creation of EARTH!
Don't look up!
so is wearing clothes made of mixed fabric...
Looks like you are in trouble then! This is a sinful place and you should be ashamed for even posting on such a site.
so should you.
Faith and religion depend on ignorance.
Honestly, are you serious about your post, or are you being sarcastic?
you are crazy, GOD gave man eyes, GOD gave man wonder, everything is GOD made, everything GOD makes is OK. What bible are you reading to have such a narrow view of REAL life...
I doubt it is a bible, probably a quran...
@ yup: This is a narrow thinking and shows a lack of reading & knowledge. God has given us the brain and the wonder so that we look at His creations on Earth and beyond. I've read the bible as well as the quran and both are encouraging mankind to think of God's creations and praise God for His perfection. In fact, quran has a chapter and versus that speaks about the universe and planets so it's better that you read before you talk.
Are you saying GOD gave me an STD?
I created everything you moron. Why are telling everyone I said not to look at my amazing creation you call the universe? I know I gave you a brain that works. Use it. When you're done on this planet, we're going to have a little talk about the sins of trolling and besmirching my good name.
There is a God!
Leave a Reply to God
Get Real (if you can)
So are the pursuit of personal wealth and divorce.
Fanatics like you is why Romney lost the election
I think his sacred underwear caused him to lose. It made him look.....shall we say....Stupid? SCARED UNDERWEAR! Just think about that...
Which bible are you reading man that tells you to only look at your toes?!!
I have forsaken everything in this life to uphold my beliefs in Christianity. I will sin if I have to.
"It is a SIN in the eyes of GOD to look outside his creation of EARTH!" So everyone who saw STAR WARS is in big trouble, right? Also, if you get a phone call via satellite, prepare to burn in hell for eternity. Hey, I don't make these rules.
Perhaps every solar system has a big fat planet like Jupiter that just loafs around and does nothing – in other words... Jupiter is like the brother-in-law of planets.
Jupiter may be big and fat, but its hardly useless. Without its gravitational pull, Earth would have been victim to large planet killing Asteroids, and life would have never succeeded here. Jupiter acts like a vacuum cleaner for the solar system, drawing debris towards it. Case in Point: The giant meteor strikes that hit Jupiter in the last few years.
Who can deny God ? These massive planets and star are significantly drawing our attention towards the creator.
Interesting objects in space do nothing to prove or disprove the existence of any gods imagined by humans.
and yes God did reveal before man had telescopes that the earth is round not some flat pancake being juggled on an elephant standing on a turtle as usual some people would rather believe in the elephant theory then God how strange??
If evil exist, God exist.
Yes it does...the whole universe works like a machine...you can't have a machine without an inventor.
well who made the inventor and the inventors creator and the inventors creator creator or maybe its just chaos and we sprouted out of the stars
'the whole universe works like a machine'
in what way?
Az, so do the boils on your ass if that's your standard of proof. Typical religious ninny..."Ah, something awe inspiring or hard to understand...must be there's an invisible man living in the sky"
Seriously? It boggles my mind that people are so willing to believe in "the great man in the sky" over worshiping physics and science. Science and reality inform every aspect of my life. Take note kids.
Science is just a series of lies with each new iteration more closely approximating the truth.
Gayle youre delusional. science is what in everything man has made. so in your words cars(example) that we drive are a lie?
I totally agree that it IS proof that a GOD exists and anyone who denies that is loco after-all if the earth was 1cm closer to the sun we would be fried and if it was 1 cm further we would be ice-cubes!! who put us on this planet with oxygen and enough water ..........oh yes chance makes more sense NOT!!! Stop denying God the credit that IS HIS!!!!
Sorry to burst your bubble. The earth's orbit is not circular, but an ellipse. Earth's distance from the sun varies from 92 million to 94 million miles as it revolves about the sun. Your statement of 1 Cm makes no sense.The peak of Mount Everest is 30,000 feet "closer" to the sun than an object at sea level. Last time we looked, the temps at the top of Everest were way below zero, not burning up, as you postulate. The dynamic systems involved are not as simplistic as you propose.
Not to put you down, nab, but for the sake of facts, Jay-Jay is right. The earth's orbit around the sun indeed resembles an ellipse rather than a perfect circle. You don't believe it? We live in the age of information, look it up.
I think hes referring to the 1 degree not the 1cm. He would be correct about 1 degree of the elipsies. In any case the amount of pinhole like events that occurred to allow life on earth is amazing. If one of those events did not take place we wouldnt be here to talk about it in the first place. It really did take some serious luck that we are here. Not really sure if its Godly or chance like but repugnant is a creature who squanders the ability to even cast an eye to the heavens conscience of his fleeting time here.
n a b is not a christian, he is just spouting extremist views to get a rise out of people… True Christians won't try to discredit clear and obvious scientific facts because of some old stories in a book…
"science is the language of god" Albert Einstein
Our existence only seems to be special because we live it. Were there an amazing amount of highly unlikely events that allow us to exist today? Yes. But the universe had trillions upon trillions of years, with a seemingly unlimited amount of space for these occurrences to take place. If someone could live long enough to play the lottery every day of his life, in every part of the world where the lottery is being played for a few trillion years, he would probably win – and he may have won a few times.
Christians won't try to discredit clear and obvious scientific facts because of some old stories in a book…
LOL.. if anyone here is an extremist…its you.
'who put us on this planet with oxygen and enough water'
er, we are how we are because of the environment we evolved in.
It's threads like this that lead me to believe we will never travel to the stars.
It is highly unlikely that we ever will given the current path of global destruction we are on.
This CNN international page of supposed research and discoveries is a complete joke. International my A..! It's almost all about US events and reports almost noting about actual global events. Recently European scientist found a planet at Alpha Centauri our nearest star system. An incredible discovery of highest importance to astronomy. Even NASA called it the greatest dicoverie in a decade. But CNN didn't even have an article while even channels like Foxnews did. Just recently European and Canadian astronemers detected a free floating planet. The first ever directly detected. Big news all around the science pages of the world news channels. Nothing on CNN. A few weeks back European astronomers found a planet in the habitable zone of a nearby star. The first close planet (close enough for future observation to analyse the atmosphere) ever found in the habitable zone able to potentially support life. A Eureka moment and reported everywhere and yes even Foxnews. And yes, guess what; Nothing on CNN.
Now they find some much! Less intersting jupiter world and NASA is involved then guess what, yes CNN reports it. CNN can go jump from the nearest bridge for all i care.
Funny how I learned of all the discoveries you mentioned in your tirade on CNN.
Show me the 3 articles. I only see 1.
imagine if humans evolved on a planet x16 jupiter. they would be 15,000 times larger than earth humans. a human that can long jump 20 feet is considered really great, so these super-jupiter men could jump 60 miles in one jump. The relative distance from our moon to our earth would be like a human traveling 15.8 miles through space.
traveling from one star to another which was 4 light years away would be similar distance for a creature 16,000 our size to traveling from earth to uranus,
too bad our fat kids will die before they get to see it, you can thank HOSTESS amongst others
twinkies go straight to uranus
uranus is a big gas giant
One problem. Gas giants are mostly just that, gas. The solid core would feel so much pressure that any life form would implode. Plus, the weather on these planets are terrible. Jupiter's "great red spot" is larger than Earth.
Don't want to burst your bubble, but just because you spun some proportions out doesn't mean that these hypothetical humans or beings would have a perception of the universe that scaled with your linear factors. In fact, it's a lot harder for larger things to travel than it is for smaller things. It's no coincidence that a massless particle, the photon (light), is the fastest thing in the universe. I like your enthusiasm, but you're just off base.
Since you like accuracy, here goes. Light is obviously not the fastest thing in the Universe. Gravity is instantaneous and bends light before it can even leave it's vicinity In fact, as we now know, light can even be trapped by gravity so it can't even escape! Yet as it is doing this gravity itself remains unimpeded. Therefore Gravity is faster as well as more powerful than Light.
Gravity isn't instantaneous, what are you talking about with "speed of gravity" anyway?
Brainless – Since you are so bent on accuracy, here goes. Gravity has no "speed" is is actuality a force dependent on mass and magnetism. Gravity affects speed, creating a resistance field. Larger "pools" of gravity, like those around hyper-dense objects (think "black holes" and quantum singularities) can trap or slow things such as the ultra small photon particle (not mass-less, but smaller than even an electron). Light takes 8 minutes to reach earth from the surface of the sun. Light traveling through an area where gravity has a lesser effect would be a few seconds faster as gravity doesn't slow the particle. I don't think scientists have yet found an area where gravity doesn't have an effect. To give you an idea of how much an effect gravity has on photons, it takes light nearly a year to escape the surface of the sun, and the majority of the photons we are seeing actually originate near the center of the Sun. Due to gravity, particle density and resistance (larger particles) it takes nearly 10,000 years for a photon that originated near the center of the sun to reach it's surface. Eliminating all the other factors, but leaving just gravity in effect it would still take a few years.
Oh, and light (photons) isn't that fastest particle known BTW. It is one of the fastest particles that is common, but scientists have discovered faster particles, and regularly use them in galactic observation.
Brainiac said: "Therefore Gravity is faster as well as more powerful than Light." Not at all true – the electromagnetic force behind the photon is the second strongest of the four fundamental forces while gravity is the weakest (by 37 orders of magnitude). You really can't equate a photon's emf to the gravitational force of a celestial body like a sun.
A gravitational perturbation (presumably carried by gravitons) travels no faster than the speed of light.
Assuming it was possible, any life-form evolving on a planet that much bigger than earth would be much smaller, not larger. The immense gravity would crush anything on it down to size.
That wouldn't be the case at all, a planet that size would mean smaller size, like an ant.
I dont care...I want some turky.
You make me laugh so hard that i almost fell of my chair
You'd have to learn how to spell "turkey" first, nimrod.
What makes you think he's a good hunter?
Now that was funny
Sure. The turkey would be about 3200 lbs....about the size of a small elephant.
We can speculate about the distance but the fact is our evolution of humans will either evolve into something else or die off. The only alternative is we find new propulsion systems and new science to take us further into space and continue our exploration and expansion of our kind across the galaxies. And to be honest, I would prefer a map before I get on the road to have some destination so NASA thank you for give us that. Regardless in a lab, through a telescope or up in lower space orbit, lets keep the research and exploration going.
It is my dream to one day engage in the act of coitus with a hot girl on a hot Jupiter. I hear that Jupiter is where girls go to get more stupider and often times stupid girls are pretty hot.
You'll just have to do with pleasuring yourself in your momma's basement for now.
i found this interesting "Planets do not produce energy through fusion. However, planets do emit heat that is left over from their own formation." if this is so then maybe some of the other planets they have found will, shall i say "cool down" and become habitable in the future?
That is what happened to Earth.
Not necessarily. Most "hot" planets we know of are a direct result of radiant energy from their parent star. Other planets have a core that is constantly heated through the "tidal" forces of gravity (pressure and friction), generally due to being in the close neighborhood of a much larger astronomical companion. Not only do we have examples of that throughout the known extra-solar planets, we have examples of that within our own solar neighborhood. Mercury is a solid lump of rock that should have cooled down a long time ago. It's core it still very active due to tidal forces and radiant heat from the sun. The Earth's core is going to remain a pretty constant temperature until the sun dies due to gravitational pressure and the tidal effects of our moon. Jupiter is extraordinarily hot due to its massive size. Uranus is very cold due to its distance from the sun and its gas composition. Jupiter is primarily Hydrogen and Helium. Uranus while still a lot of hydrogen has much higher content of helium, oxygen and heavier compounds like methane and water. The further from the sun you get, the heavier the compounds and the colder the planet gets, even though most formed at the same time, or even after Earth did.
You messed up, Jeff. Instead of admitting it, now you look like a tool and an idiot. Good job.
Wow trolling around and calling people names. Good job.
Yes,because you're an expert and all. I love how you call him an idiot and say that he messed up, but you don't mention any specifics. This is probably due to the fact you have no clue what you are talking about. Yep, I think the term "Troll" definitely applies.
I must go! Someone on the internet is wrong!
Its ok, I put them straight.
The "Subaru" Telescope... brought to you by your corporate overlords.
Like many technology companies, Subaru funds a lot of pure research in many fields. Sometimes this leads to a technological edge in business, but often it leads to purely open discoveries. In a great example, the cosmic background radiation was accidentally discovered by a couple of astronomers working for Bell Labs.
It's name after the Pleiades, not the car company.
right on Chris
Blah Blah Blah... diarrhea of the mouth. That's all I read from your post.
why the gratutious insults? This is not politics. You could complain about the money NASA is getting from the US tax payer and some would support you. Nasty comments on the other hand are like mirrors and boomerangs. They reflect on you and come back to haunt you.
It's all nice and cute we find all these planets that we will never get to visit.
It's less nice and but still kind of cute when people type without thinking. "Going there" is not the primary goal of finding and cataloging exoplanets. They are studied from afar, and each one has something to tell us. We will learn more about planetary formation and evolution, the distribution of planets in the galaxy, the variety that can be found, etc. etc.
Sure that's obvious enough?
Ummm...did I say anything about going there?
I love when people type things that were NEVER said. Read what I said again and think first before you quote things that were never said.
Oops. Extra "and" in there.
You made an empty-headed sarcastic remark about the significance of this find, dismissing its importance because "w will never get to visit". You were called on it and corrected. Instead of pretending you didn't say what is right there on the page, the correct response from you now is either "oh" or silence. No point in digging that hole deeper.
Tell me in my statement where I said..."going there?"
Go there, or visit...same freaking thing lol. Pull the stick from your butt SB.
I meant Jeff, no SB...oops.
Surely you understand the meaning of the word "visit"? You used the word, and in fact it was the entire, flawed premise of your failed attempt at being funny. So naturally I assumed you understood what the word meant. I see now I was in error, and that you do not even understand your own words, never mind those in the article.
Going there means...you are on your way. Visiting means a future trip.
2 different things.
It's less nice but still kind of cute when people type without thinking. "Visiting" is not the primary goal of finding and cataloging exoplanets. They are studied from afar, and each one has something to tell us. We will learn more about planetary formation and evolution, the distribution of planets in the galaxy, the variety that can be found, etc. etc.
You see? Even if I play along, the fact is you're still completely, utterly wrong.
A stunningly productive discourse gentlemen...
And your contribution is what? At least I had a point.
Okay so here's the deal – Jeff you're a tool. SB, although technically correct, you may want to be checked for Asperger's Syndrome. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.
"It's all nice and cute we find all these planets that we will never get to visit."
– And –
"Going there means...you are on your way. Visiting means a future trip."
Your statement 'Never', precludes either 'Going' and 'Visiting'. You Jeff are a casebook example of someone with terminal brain damage.
If symptoms of Asperger's include being irked when some 4th grade dropout belittles the amazing accomplishments of the human race, then I have a serious case.
Humans on the Earth looked up at the Moon for aeons, and wondered if they/we could ever visit the Moon. Then on July 20th, 1969, we did. Need I say more?
We never went to the moon.
'Cold Blue Torch' sounds like a dedicated moron !
The significance of the report is that the planet/brown dwarf (it's right on the edge) has been *directly imaged* in the infrared. And yet instead of that amazing picture you use the artist's conception of what it might look like. This doesn't make sense to me. If you want to see the actual image, go to NASA's site and look at the article there.
It's the exact same image on NASA's website, heh. Also, when they say "direct image" they mean an increase/decrease in the light levels given by the star. It just happens that telescopes are so precise now that they can measure such changes and infer what is causing them. In this case, a rather large gas giant.
This has NOTHING to do with the light levels given by the star, Ralter. This is an actual DIRECT IMAGE in the near-infrared light spectrum made by "masking" the parent Star Kappa Andromedae and watching for an anomaly of "white noise" in the fringe areas around that Star. Hard to believe but yep they actually are looking at the Planet itself.
My account was compromised, apologies.
You did not look at the ACTUAL IMAGE of the planet. You only looked at the artist's conception at the top of the page on NASA's web site. Look again, and correct your post. You are wrong.
Honestly, Ralter, if you can't be bothered to scroll down the page or actually READ the words on it, don't bother posting.
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