New species of dolphin discovered off Australia
Australian researchers have discovered a new species of dolphin living right under their, uh, bottlenoses.
A population of 100 dolphins in Port Phillip Bay and 50 in the Gippsland Lakes on Australia's southern coast have been proven to be genetically unique from dolphins anywhere else in the world, Monash University doctoral researcher Kate Charlton-Robb said in a university release.
"We're very pleased to announce that yes it is a new dolphin species, and I have called it Tersiops Australis," Charlton-Robb said in an interview with Radio Australia.
The new species has been given the common name the Burrunan dolphin, meaning "large sea fish of the porpoise kind" in Aboriginal languages, she said.
The Burrunan dolphins were originally thought to be one of two bottlenose species, but researchers used DNA and skull comparisons to establish they were a new species.
Only three new dolphin species have been recognized since the late 1800s, Charlton-Robb said.
"This animal has been living right under our noses for so many years and just with combining those two different technologies, with looking at the skull morphology and the DNA, you know there's still really exciting discoveries to be made," Charlton-Robb told Radio Australia.
She said the discovery highlights the importance of conservation efforts.
"It would be a shame to discover something and then and lose it. So we really are working hard to try and protect and conserve these animals," she told Radio Australia.
And if you want to get a look at the new species, head to Port Phillip Bay.
"The animals that you would see out in the bay on a normal occasion would be this new species type," Charton-Robb told Radio Australia.
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Jeremy Vanroekel Superb content, my friend. You are truly a literary genius. This kind of article requires a great mind and a lot of research. I commend you on the hard work you put into this writing.
Soooooo... basically they named it the "dolphin dolphin"?
I have to confess that i sometimes get bored to learn the entire thing however i believe you possibly can add some value. Bravo !
It's amazing how only three new species have been discovered since the 1800s! I also think we are so fortunate to be able to witness a new species being found! And I agree with Dr. Kate Charlton-Robb when she stated that we need to protect them. It's amazing that along with her research team that they discovered a new species, but it would be extremely sad if we were to see them to extinction. We need to do what we can to protect them!
Nice work ace ventura!
BOOYAH!!!!!! WE'VE GOT MORE DOLPHINS!!!!!!
I live and work by Port Phillip Bay in Melbourne, Australia and can assure you we have no marauding Japanese whalers slaughtering anything in our beautiful bay. Yes they may slaughter whales (not dolphins) for so-called 'research' (much to our disgust), and that is thousands of miles away in the Southern Ocean.
The dolphins frolic in the bay, especially now it is springtime, and can be seen from the ferry and passing ocean liners.
We leave them alone and they continue to thrive in the bay.
Their main threat is the man-made pollution washed into the bay, but as the bay is so large, it is diluted on its way to the open ocean.
Australia is a wonderland of strange and unique creatures. For those that live among them, we accept them as they are, and let them observe us as strangers in their world.
Live and let live, and may they prosper and bring tourists to gawk at them while they enjoy their natural habitat of which we are but visitors.
Whoops, forgot the "r" in "th(r)oughout" ... sorry for that, just a typo.
"And thoughout history, man has always ATTACKED what he didn't understand..."
... just sthg. to keep in mind ...
I mean ... LASTINGNESS !! Why would some WANT to kill them???????? IF *some* would want that... extinction... *some* would destroy themselves AND OTHERS, too...
Huh? What's wrong?? Can't we see them as "friends", friends because ... they are a part of LIFE itself... ??!? So, why ridicule them? Not all of you do so, but some... seriously, take life ITSELF as a gift... but, IMHO, it's only a thought. So to protect them... !!
They will be EXTINCT by next year as long as he have JAPANESE with WWII mentality brutally killing these creatures. Boycott Japanese products and save the species.
Don't you have better ideas? Sorry but that's really stupid.
My only comment is that this not a forum for inane discussions on inane things that do nothing but prove the idiotic force that for some reason pervades your minds. This is definitely not the place for gossip and empty teenage culture. In my opnion, the abiltiy to comment on an article should be taken away from all of you. You are obviously not mature enough to handle such a freedom. Maybe we should take it away from you like mom and dad takes away your cell phones and let you have some commenting freedom back little by little. They discovered that there is a species of dolphins they didn't think existed. That's it.
So Long and Thanks for all the Fish.
hey ppl who found new animals 🙂
hey wats up guel
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haha noo we didnt! we didnt findd anyy new animals! daahhh onlyy one wee foundd whuszz Miguel!!!!!!
for real dude he is so fuckin ugly i home when he is old that he will go gett a facesiol better yet my mom can give him one for fee lmao he is starin in to spaxe
stop jaking off in the rest room vanessa lmaooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
lmao look who fownd new animals wow u act like its a big dill wel its not o and lol its me melissa hakkking vanessa file its all goood we love each other wel if u like wat im saying wel say something to speake ur mine
haha yhhaaa wee do.. we bothh lovee eachother tanto!!! 🙂 hehe ❤ yhuu
lmao miguel is so stupide and he wont stop lookinging at m,e some one kill him with a lil wenner and some tiny nuts
hhahahaha omq!!!! Miguell isz sooo meann! poor matt!
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man he looks at me soo funny he needs to go back to the zoo where he belongs lmao im so mean but i dont give a fuck talk shit get hit 1800 chok that hoe
man migule looks like a huge dilldo with a red head
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wtthh???!! haha nahh maa i dntt jackkk off likk Miguell dusz inn daa bathroom!! haha cochino!! Mann Melissaaa!!! i hearr yhuu moaninqq inn daa bathroom!!!! whutt chuu doinqq uhpp inn derr wiff yhurr dilldoo??? huhh??!! LLMMMAAAAOOOO!!!!!!!! 🙂
It's probably just a mutant species that mutated from all the trash in the ocean
all species are a result of mutations....
I don't think Melissa and vanessa are survivable mutations. Wishing well to the new dolphins, though. 🙂
seriously?!
Dang, they found us!
I always love it when I read an article followed by comments, and see the same bloggers day after day getting paid to start heated conversations. If some one says some thing you dis agree with, take it with very little consideration. I laugh at the bloggers posts, because literally they are on every news site. It's their job! Sit at home and argue with people to make money!
Amazing how many posts harp on the term "new species". Commonsense and simple education would imply that the use of the word "new" is relative to us humans in general, not to those dolphins obviously nor the universe. Anything not previously known is "new" or "discovered". America, though discovered, obviously wasn't new. Sometimes one just has to wonder if it is the hobby or compulsion of some people to fixate on boggable articles to find typos, questionable wording, or anything else negligible just so they can see their words on the web.
Finding previously unknown species of anything can be exciting for those that care. What makes them different? How do they interact with their environment and can they be indicators to the state of their environment? What can be learned from studying them individually or their social interactions? Those are just a few of many questions
Flipper must have been getting his freak on...
I wonder if these "new" Dolphins have heard of a thing called defense, because my Miami Dolphins sure haven't!
HA!
"After the flood, A rainbow is a reminder of a covenant that G‑d made with Noah, his descendants, and all living creatures."
""The Seven Laws of Noah (Hebrew: שבע מצוות בני נח Sheva mitzvot B'nei Noach)"
"1.Prohibition of Idolatry
2.Prohibition of Murder
3.Prohibition of Theft
4.Prohibition of Sexual immorality
5.Prohibition of Blasphemy
6.Prohibition of eating flesh taken from an animal while it is still alive
7.Establishment of courts of law"
""Technically, the Hebrew term Bene Noach applies to all non-Jews as descendants of Noah. However, nowadays it is also used to refer specifically to those non-Jews who observe the Noahide Laws."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Laws_of_Noah."
What a Noahide is.
.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noahide
Chances are if you are not Jewish then you might be a Decendant of Noah. Very cool.
"According to Jewish law, non-Jews are not obligated to convert to Judaism, but they are required to observe the Seven Laws of Noah. Those who subscribe to the observance of such laws and their supporting organizations are referred to as Bene Noach (B'nei Noah) (Hebrew: בני נח), Children of Noah, Noahides or Noahites."
Intresting a Noahide is a person who trys to follow the seven laws of Noah.
"Technically, the Hebrew term Bene Noach applies to all non-Jews as descendants of Noah. However, nowadays it is also used to refer specifically to those non-Jews who observe the Noahide Laws."
So whats the gist of history, how did this come to be in todays society,
" all humanity descends from Noah. Noah and his three children Shem, Ham, and Japheth survived the Flood aboard the Ark, along with their wives.
Once the survivors were able to leave the ark for dry ground, they started new families and repopulated the earth. When Noah's family left the Ark, God made a covenant with them.
this covenant included the Seven Laws of Noah. Thus, to the B'nei Noah, all living humans as descendants of Noah are subject to the Noahide laws."
so now all liveing decendants of Noah that are not Jewish can learn the seven laws of Noah, and have their own special relationship with the creator of existence.
Here are a few Educational Websites.
■http://noahidenations.com/
■http://www.noahide.org/
■http://asknoah.org/
There are many websites on the internet that have further education, and beautiful writeings
I encourage you, be brave, get intrested.
We have the right as Nations to further our education based on the Seven Laws of Noah.
We have the right to search for our own peace and to have our own relationship with the Creator
of Existance.
It may be possible it isn't a easy task with little knowledge, this is your time,
It may be heart breaking it may be healful , you may cry, i encourage you, i love you, take care.
What does that have anything to do with discovering a new species of dolphin?
What does that have anything to do with Dolphins?
This just shows God is still showing us his power to create new creatures for us observe and cherish.
It never fails, someone always wants to post something religious after a science article.
So long and thanks for all the fish.
You made my morning. Well done I thought you were serious which made the Adams quote even funnier (and a relief) I think he'd be proud.
Suck
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If this is your lame attempt to inject creationism into the discussion – which I suspect is the case – go away. Science is backed by fact. Your idea is backed by myth, and nothing more.
Darwin want shellfish.
Darwin plant homing device on enemy submarine. Darwin get shellfish now?
Perhaps Darwin no being clear here. DARWIN WANT FREEKING SHELLFISH RIGHT FREEKING NOW!!!
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You're an idiot.
I believe you are confused, this is not the belief blog. Simply copy and paste and then remove your comment. Thanks.
based on all i just read the dolphin were smart to elude humans for as long as they could. If the above is a representation of humanity i would bather be dolphin . i had hoped to find intellegent convestion on an amazing find , sad to discovery i should learn to communicate with the dolphins to do so.
They haven't 'eluded' anyone... hence the 'hiding in plain site' comment. The weren't 'discovered', they were merely identified as a new species. You mis-spelled 'intelligent' (sweet irony), and I have no idea what a 'convestion' is.
Dear Author:
It's "Tursiops", not "Tersiops". Also, species name is not capitalized when paired with genus name, so we have Tursiops australis.
Sincerely,
Your average taxonomic nomenclature-neurotic marine biologist
I was going to post the same thing! Even my 10th graders now how to correctly write a Genus and Speciies. The author also needs to underline or put it in Italics.
You are comparing 10th graders to "journalists" on their site? That is really unfair to hold them to such a high standard. You should consider 3rd graders. 😉
One simple change could be to turn off your computer and stop wasting energy trolling message boards... you do realize your ranting about people that rant, correct?
Hey now! You are talking to Aaron Drake of Chicago!
When I visited Madagascar I noticed this strange huge spiderweb across a number of streams (with a spider in them). Neither the guide nor the nature house by the parking lot noted that this is a new type of spider that was unknown to science (Darwin Spider). It's funny that something that everyone walking there (including buses full of school children) didn't know that this spider living feet from the parking lot was newly discovered. I guess like this dolphin type, everyone just assumes scientists have found most things.
I am sure that the spiders didn't consider themselves to be lost and in need of discovery.
We humans on the other hand needed to recognize that these creatures were missed in our attempt to catalog the world around us.
Thus the discovery that we could make a new addition in the master book of creatures.
.. and before they left the dolphins had one thing to say: So long, and thanks for all the fish.
You've made it completely worth reading the comments on this Friday afternoon!! THANKS SO VERY MUCH!!
thats great...^_^
i think that finding more dalfins is great
Goodbye, and thanks for all the fish
So long...
beautiful creature! how long before man destrys it like everything else!
i think that it is amazing they discoverd a new species of dolphin it will bring great joy to zoooligists so they an study this creaature
New Species?
Hardly!!
Previously Undiscovered...Yes.
Quick, tell the Japanese that these dolphins got away and need to be slaughtered.
I believe I've just discovered another type of human after reading these posts...the common idiot. They have been around for years, right under our noses. They look and sound just like other people. Its just now, after reading this, that I know they are everywhere!
Be thankful you were so blissfully unaware for so long.
Took you long enough.
How are these research projects getting funded? Does the world really need a team trying to find genetic difference of two bottlenose dolphins? Who gives a sh!t? Direct that money towards research that can actually have an impact on the world...
Maybe if you did your own research into your question, (give it a try after you get off work at McDonalds) and see how research institutions receive their endowment.
If its private funds, then..." What's it to ya"!
So, now you will MANDATE where private individuals may and may not spend their money? LONG LIVE BIG BROTHER, huh?
WTF, does the world really need your comments? BTW, who appointed you the Supreme Decision Maker as to what is important or not?
Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeit
knowledge is important..
Knowledge is important...the deepest words I have ever read in a blog posting. Thanks!
yikes... your thought process (or lack of) scares me.
Let me guess...you're a Tea Party Republican.
An idiot knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.
This animal was identified in Australia. None of *your* tax dollars were spent, genius.
"So long and thanks for all the fish..."
LOL
"You've always gotta know where your towel is..." "Well, this is it, we're going to die..."
haha ayee whusz uhpp Melissa?? haha disz b Vanessa hackkinqq yo'stuff! haha we both in ISS! damn it isz borinq and Miguel qot"sz ahhh biqqqq headdd... haha were soo mean buhh ohhh well!!!!!
Just another species to be exploited, sold and hunted because some cultures just dont care. I can only hope that soon all dolphines will be protected by international laws.
No doubt it will be an asian country that kills them off into extinction.
They certainly are amazing mammals.
We should do all we can to respect and care for these magnificent creatures.
We should also do the same for all of the other living creatures, and we should respect and care for their (and our own) habitats–water, land, air, space, etc..
Tell that to China, Indonesia & Japan.
Don't tell the Japanese.
Agreed.
This is magnificent news. Now, for those below who have injected politics into this discussion, then might I suggest that the scientists propose that a new humanoid species has also apparently been discovered, namely the Tea Party?
Yes your correct, the tea Party is a new spices. Stronger, smarter, and better looking than the early democratic humans.
Apparently, the Tea Party is also a "spices" unable to spell and or use punctuation. Thank God for the dolphins! Perhaps they can fill in the intellectual gaps for the Tea Party.
I think your name says it all.
You kidding? The Tea Party does not believe in evolution! Nor do they believe in science, or global warming. If they were in charge, we would be living in the stone age.
Really? "spices" and "your". Where is my correct? Where is it?
It is "you're", as in you are. Additionally, "Yes" is followed by a comma and there should be a period after correct. I am just trying to help. People will need to take your Tea Party manifesto seriously after you send it out on the intertubes from your wooden shack...near a catfish pond of course.
Remember evolution means that species change not that they are necessarily "better" then the older species only "more fit" to live in the current environment. The species "Tea Partius Americanus" may replace the current electorate ... because common sense the facts are not needed in politics
Are they the missing link to connect us to apes?? Why hasn't this massive finding been on the Discovery channel yet?
You are the missing link that connects us to apes. Thanks for making your appearance known.
Nope, you are one step behind the missing link. I don't want to be a direct descendand of a moron like you!
Re-Emergence of the Golden Dolphin Energy
http://palmtreelifestyle.wordpress.com/2011/06/06/dolphins-and-whales-archangel-metatron-james-tyberonn/
Finally, something stupider than teabaggers AND creationists. Please, beam back to your astral plane.
This IS NOT a new species. It is a NEWLY IDENTIFIED species. Get over it!
Wow. Sounds like you're the one that needs to get over it.
No you get over it he is right.
yea, Dan, you get over it
They're black. This, of course, means the Dolphin Tea Party will oppose and oppress them, trying to keep them "in their watery place". Isn't it hilarious to put politics into absolutely everything there is?
Phil, this is way off topic ... but if the tea party is so racist, why do they like Herman Cain so much?
You mean Herman "Uncle Tom" Cain?
A little obsessed with race and politics??
They are evolving right under our noses, wonder when we will finally blow ourselves up and it will be their turn.
So long and thanks for all the fish!
Let is not forget they are sentient beings as such they have every right to live as human beings do. PLEASE READ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sentience for a better understanding if you are not familiar with sentient beings. Please do everything in you power to LET THEM LIVE.
Every right to live as humans do? You have to be kidding! No way am I going to support them driving on my city's streets!
This is bad news for the creationist "theory." Because I'm pretty sure that these dolphins were born from prior dolphins and now their genetic makeup, over time, has mutated rendering a completely NEW species and they weren't just "created" out of thin air!!!!! A-M-A-Z-I-N-G
Not so. Many creationists who believe in evolution simply state evolution is one of God's grand plans. This ideology enables creationists to fully support and accept evolution. Convenient, no?
"This animal has been living right under our noses for so many years and just with combining those two different technologies, with looking at the skull morphology and the DNA, you know there's still really exciting discoveries to be made,"
Really? I thought the article states that these dolphins were already there and they were just now recognized as a different species. Just because "Man" declares something’s existence doesn’t mean that it hadn’t been there all along. No?
just cause we found out its different doesn't mean it has evolved. We just finally learned about it through DNA and skull analysis.
How about we poop on you!!!
People should remember that there is more than one species concept. The one to which most of you are referring is the Biological Species Concept. However, the actual definition is "species are groups of interbreeding natural populations that are reproductively isolated from other such groups." Concepts such as "natural populations" and what constitutes "reproductively isolated" are more complex than "capable of producing fertile offspring." The Biological Species Concept is also useless when it comes to asexually reproducing organisms. While I will have to read the paper myself to get some more info, it appears they have concluded that this new species at least conforms to the Phylogentic and Morphological Species Concepts. Further research will be needed to determine whether there is any natural interbreeding between the two genetically and morphologically distinct lineages.
It is obvious that you have been well educated in biology. Congratulations! You are one of a rare sub-population of Americans who not only took advanced biology coursework, but understood it (assuming you are American).
With a masters degree in molecular genetics, I'd say I'm over-educated on the subject. The teacher in me just wanted to help anyone who might actually care about the subject (and not just come here to troll) maybe understand a little more than the article cared to share. Honestly though, anyone who cares, all this info is no longer held hostage in university libraries. Just do a search on anything you want to know more about on Google Scholar, and you'll know as much as anyone else. 🙂
Are we actually seeing the tree of evolution bear fruit or did God just bless us with a new type of dolphin at night while we were all sleeping?
When things are in question, I dont think jumping to the divine for answers is very satisfactory.
Now if we can only get Japan to quit killing all the rest of them!
I love dolphin and tuna salad sandwiches. YUM!
Dan how dare you say something like that these are iniocent animals and its not cool for people to be eating them they help keep the sharks away!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so shut up and try to stop eating them....:(
But, they're SO tasty! I can't help it. nom, nom , nom, nom
You both are stupid... Dolphin that is eaten in the west is usually a DOLPHIN fish. Freaking idiots. This planet's IQ is going down 1 pt every year.
Only ugly animals should be eaten.
Lighten up, Matt. It was a joke.
I agree with Mattew – what's often referred to as 'dolphin fish' or similar is really mahi-mahi and not an actual dolphin at all.
The dolphin fish is more commonly known as mahi mahi. I was told the reason for the name change is that the fishing industry didn't want people to think they were eating Flipper.
not dolphin fish its dauphin and they look nothing like dolphins.
Don't feed the trolls.
"Dauphin" was the title for the prince of France. You shouldn't be eating a dauphin! The fish is called Dolphin Fish, and actually you shouldn't be eating them, either. They are different from the Dolphin mammal, of which Flipper was one. Hahaha the image of you eating "dauphin" just cracks me up. Kinky.
I find it utterly amazing; the banter, grammatical form and devolved nature of the English language.. Just reading this commentary of drivel. I find most Americans cannot spell, have no etiquette, no thought in their typing, and people wonder why our social aims are so far from the Mark.
W O W !!!!
And you thought that was a witty response? The silent majority not posting here is judging you. Outcome... tool.
Thank you! Thank you! The best comment I have seen for a very long time and so very true!
You really need to stop taking life so seriously. If you do not like the content on message boards, Don't read them. No one is forcing you.
I take it that your downgrading American educational system...in simple English, tell us your views on how to make us, your equal.
Why did you capitalize "Mark"? Is it because your name is Mark and you have a sense of self-importance?
It's the out of work drunks at home that can't spell (at the moment)
Thanks for lumping everyone of the continent together for your demeaning comment.
BTW how long till BP kills them all? 1 month 1 year? won't take long.
"I find it utterly amazing; the banter, grammatical form and devolved nature of the English language.." -Mark
What do two periods at the end of a sentence mean?
"I find it utterly amazing; the banter, grammatical form and devolved nature of the English language.." — Mark
I forgot to mention that this isn't even a valid sentence. You need to review how to use semicolons.
Dolphins can just be as aggressive as Sharks... Do your research, they hunt the same food and just because a dolphin is around does not mean a shark is not...Ignorance is bliss!
agree with a majority of your post with the exception of "ignorance is bliss". ignorance is ignorance and nothing more or less. whoever made that statement has caused a plague amongst the general population.
troll – stop feeding this troll
I bet manitee tastes better. After all they call them 'Sea Cows'.
It's not the mammal, it's a fish called mahi-mahi, brain donor.
Troll fail.
Great news, hope we can learn more about it without further polluting its habitat.
Speaking of pollution, can some of the posters here find a political blog to troll on? The rest of us don't want to read how much you hate Dems/Repubs/Obama/Teapartiers etc.
Someone appointed you the blog police, Skippy?
So.... why is it we can keep discovering new species of other mammals, but there's only ONE species of human??
So what's your point?
Beacause they would occupy the same biological space, one would simply outcompete the other.
There are. Whites ones, Black ones, ect...
And Redneck
Those aren't species, those are races.
actually, there are NINE human species.
Because we likely killed off Neaderthal man when we encountered them.
But there are many species of primates. Heck, we share more similarity in genetics to chimps than mice do to rats. In addition, we did have more than one species of human, see Homo neanderthalensi. Finally, we keep interbreeding, especially in recent time with large immigrations and fast transit. Therefore, it is hard for a population to become distinct from the rest of humanity.
Because, these dolphins have a substantial (and as we say in science "significant) genetic divergence that is not seen between any geographic or culturally distinct population in the Homo Sapiens species (or any 2 persons for that matter). While it will need to be tested, it is an indication that these dolphins are not interbreeding with the other dolphins; whereas, ALL human populations can and do interbreed with all other said humans. Now that you have been educated on the subject, please stop using other scientific findings to fuel your thinly-veiled racism. Thank you.
DD: Humans are just one of many species of primates, just as these dolphins are one of many species of cetaceans.
Because we killed the other ones a long time ago.
because humans will take longer to evolve due to our breeding habbits. Unlike in nature humans help other humans with weak genetic lines and allow them to breed, while in the wild that would not happen.
There has been small evolutioned however seen, such as being able to eat and drink other animals milks, as well as the continued deterioration of our body being able to hand raw meats.
Our species really isn't going anywhere and if we do evolve most likely no one will notice because of how we breed.
Curious Question: Do dolphin species interbreed? I respect science, but it seems odd to literally discover a new species right under their noses. how could a new species emerge or be overlooked in the midst of existing populations?
sexual preferences. Dolphins have very intricate social structures so one could assume they prefer to stay to themselves and keep outsiders out. Even if they did interbreed once in a while, the species as a whole would remain distinct. Now if they did a lot, then yes, the species would become one. Clearly that is not happening.
Tursiops (bottlenose) dolphins interbreed with the spotted dolphins, but we don't know if their offspring is fertile.
No, Dolphin species to not interbreed. That is the definition of a species. Two organisms of different species cannot breed and produce fertile offspring. Note that two organisms of different species can in some cases breed, but they produce sterile offspring (for example, a horse and a donkey can produce a sterile mule).
At some point, you're correct. There remains, however, a question of just where that occurs. For example, brown bears are clearly capable of interbreeding with polar bears, despite the two animals classified as being different species. There are many, many examples of this in nature, not the least of which are humans; many of us have, for example, neanderthal DNA markers. Preference, it would seem, does play a certain role.
JC – you did not even read what he wrote, he said it is possible because of genetic similarities but they would be infertile, not able to breed themselves. So yes animals of similar species can breed if it is close but the baby cannot of offsprings of their own, such as in your example. I wish people would stop being so dumb and read what someone wrote.
Dave has the right of it. Also, I think it should be pointed out that it's not odd for a new species to be discovered under our noses... That's how almost ALL species are discovered. 🙂 Besides, is it really so hard to believe that no human before now has ever actually noticed that a dolphin from this species mated with another, and did NOT produce fertile offspring? Or performed a test to see how genetically different they are from another population of dolphins? The oceans are very big, very alien places.
What we don't know about them, and the creatures that live in them, dwarfs what we DO know. We're bound to make discoveries like this from time to time.
thanks. I admittedly thought of dolphin species like "breeds" of dogs. i knew they were quite intelligent and wondered if their social structure avoided interbreeding or the males defending/clashing with outsiders to defend their females, etc. i was thinking of this as a possible mutt group, not mules.
Curious question, who gives a fuck?
Dave, I answered Rob's question: bottlenose and spotted dolphins interbreed and occasionally produce young. We do not know whether the hybrid offspring are fertile. If they are a new species will be produced.
If you don't know what you're talking about then perhaps you should clam up. Bottlenose and spotted dolphins are different species of dolphin, period.
Looks more like scientists desperate to come up with a "new" species in order to get some recognition. If they suddenly discovered the continent of Africa, they would be calling Blacks a new species.
Wow skeptic much?
That's an illogical comment bosssaid.
wow someone must have had a big bowl of ignorant this morning...
Jesus says pull your fool head out of your colon.
That's probably the dumbest comment I've read all year. Congrats.
Why so cynical....most scientists don't live for the attention.
Once again The Boss Said shows their incredible stupidity and ignorance. When did you drop out of school, 6th grade?
You don't just "invent" a new species arbitrarily. There are actual measurable criteria that determine whether or not an animal belongs to a given species or not. One of the most important is the ability to reproduce fertile offspring. If two populations of dolphins cannot produce fertile offspring with one another, then these two population are of a different species. There are other factors, of course, but this is a strong rule of thumb.
TheBossSaid is correct. Science and scientists just make things up to look good and obtain funding. Thats why all the technology we have today were made by God and handed down to us not invented on the basis of scientific thinking and discovery.
Very true. I'm typing this on an Enochian keyboard handed to me by the Archangel Michael. It's even autographed by Jesus! "JP- Love the name! Your pal, JHC xxxxxx"
Wow, someone is mad they couldn't get past their first semester of chemistry in high school!
I guess more tax breaks to big oil is even better to you?
I am so tired of uneducated morons posting their idiot comments on these boards and other idiots agreeing with them as if they actualy should be sharing their stupid opinion. Good luck morons. Don't piss your pants when you die.
They only demonsrate the abyssal depth of their own ignorance. Scientists live for the discovery and advancement of knowledge not because we're chasing fame and fortune (although it's nice if and when it arrives) but because we want to know the answers to questions. Knowledge and solving puzzles are their own reward.
Some people can't imagine that payoff. Sad, isn't it?
I wonder if it evolved or if it is a mutant species.
Thats kind of the same thing.
Why are you making that distinction?
Evolution = mutation (well, successful mutation, that is)
Six of one, half dozen of the other...
Based on some of the posts by derp and fucking nuts, I realize that there will always some idiots holding back the human race!
And these people vote.
Yes. They are actually divided into two distinct groups: Democrats and Republicans. Note that both these species are capable of interbreeding, but nothing good ever comes of it.
Some of them are of voting age.
These dolphins are cool, but let me tell all of you MAYWEATHER IS A PUNK FOR DUCKING PAC MAN.
Blah blah blah, this isn't ESPN's site. Go there if you want to rant about something nobody here cares about...
I care troll. Don't speak for everyone else just because you don't care.
This is obviously a mutation due to global warming. Help us, Al!
Tell me what to do!
So will this replace the spot on the list of known dolphin species formerly taken by lost Yangtze river dolphin species?
Seeing as how this species lives in waters surrounding a different continent, it's very unlikely that will transpire.
So the name, Burrunan dolphin, means "large sea fish of the porpoise kind" in Aboriginal languages.
Uh, I got news for you mofos- Dolphins are mammals, not fish. Stupid fucking scientists!
I'm guessing the folks who made this discovery realize that dolphins are mammals, and just simply wanted to pay homage to the indigenous people of Australia. By the way, bone heads like you are, while sad and pathetic, also amusing. So ready to bash "scientists" yet so willing to accept the fruits of scientific inquiry and discovery.
That's what happen when you trust an ignorant aborigine to name a scientic species. How do aborigines refer to themselves? As hairless upright walkers of the monkey kind? LOL!
@ DirtyJoe, I call them rednecks or crackheads from the deep south. Hey, you may be a new spiecies...I wonder what your Native Americans call you?
There are no fishes who can live on land. There are no people who can live underwater. Fishes in the water. Mammals on the land. Don't be so stupid.
Let me tell you about this amazing creature called a "whale".
and the lung-fish...
Now we debunked both sides of his argument.
mmm if we collectively throw you in the ocean, would that do the trick? You probably look like a whale or manatee
the scientist are using the aboriginal word they didn't know dolphins are not fish.
@ Dirty Joe – so you think there's a word in the aboriginal language for mammal? Frankly, I'm surprised there's a word for porpoise. I could be wrong, but I don't think the Aboriginies of Australia had a University doing biological research, and if they did not know what a "mammal" was they probably didn't have a word for it. But, like I said, I could be wrong.
FIshesInTheWater, there are freshwater fish, as opposed to sea fish.
You were referring to sea fish, as in, of course fish are in the sea and mammals are on land. I'm just saying fish are not limited to the sea, and the distinction of "seafish" is warranted.
It's likely the Aboriginals already knew there were different species of dolphins in the water, Dirty Joe, and knew for thousands of years. Perhaps the name pays homage to their superior understanding of their native waters and inhabitants thereof.
I'll admit, the aborigines do know some stuff. They know how to eat dirt, live in the desert, ride kangaroos, and talk in funny languages. But they shouldn't be calling mammals fish. That's just plain ignorant.
@Dirty Joe- Cultural sensitivity is apparently not your strong suit. I am sure modern science could learn a lot from the aborigines.
Good news. Please keep the Japanese fishing boats out of these waters.
Please Aussies, keep the Japanese away. They're alredy decimating the shark population.
Even though I don't believe in god, I keep on crossing my fingers that they have a 11.00 earthquake to wipe them out, because of the senseless slaughter of dolphins, sharks and whales.....and if it happens I will NOT send money again FUCK NO
We already know the ending to this story...............Sushi de dolphin......Sad
mmmmmmmmm
Ignorance; educate it or ignore it.
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Cool now that they have been "discovered", men can hunt them and kill them all!
Taste like Barracuda
Hopefully Sea World will not read this report and either will the Japanese government..
In the future SeaWorld and other aquariums will be the only place you will be able to see these animals.
too bad a new species of human that doesn't produce lazy, stupid offspring wasn't discovered.
You should present yourself to the nearest scientist, so they can.
Sorry, read your post wrong. Doh! Hate it when that happens.
Now that's funny. Sad because it's true, but hilarious none the less.
I am also looking forward to eating this new fish thing.
And I my friend am looking forward to tormenting you for all eternity simply based on your ignorance.
A man after my own heart.
I'm pretty sure he was making a joke.
It made me chuckle.
I suspect they have military training in their not-too-distant future! Killing them for food would be absolutely disgusting, but then again some Africans love to eat "bushmeat." It's just a relief to know that anything can survive in that increasingly toxic cesspool.
That increasingly toxic cesspool...of Australia? Huh?
The second most intelligent creatures on earth (after the mice) have fooled us again.
42? Cheers, lol
I have my towel, no need to panic
Shouldn't it be "Tersiops australis" rather than "Tersiops Australis"? Genus is capitalized, species is not.
Yes, that's correct, but I guess no one at CNN remembered what they learned in biology class. Sigh..
They don't really have any editors anymore. Ironic given the sheer volume of information these days that editors would be out of work.
New species of sub-human discovered! Identified by low intelligence, nasty disposition, extreme hatred for everyone that isn't white, Christian, heterosexual, rich and native born American. High propensity to scream and shout about anything and everything and especially things they know absolutely nothing about. They fall under the genus "Tea Party" and have been given various common names; Teabagger, Teatard and Teabiggot. This species is very dangerous, avoid at all costs!
...and whatever you do....please...pleaseohpleaseohplease....do NOT procreate with them. Extinction isn't always a bad thing.
autobiography?
Your a complete assinine fool! Your problem is your afraid of something new; afraid that a third party might upset your applecart and you might lose your so-called entitlements. Be prepared for change, (not the ridiculus Obama change that never happened) the days of the freeloaders and career politicians are over. We're taking America back from you a**holes who produced nothing for years.
Hear hear! Move over, bacon! Make way for the new generation of know-nothing, accomplish-nothing oxygen thieves!
Oxygen thieves??!!! hahahaha...they also tend to contribute to global warming with their excess secretions of gases...LOL why won't these people get educated?
Would electro-shock therapy help these people ?
If not, maybe a frontal labotamy.
haha, nice
Low intelligence? You are giving them too much credit. These people go to church to pray to idols made of stone.
Shouldn't it be "newly-discovered species?" It's not like they evolved yesterday.
Get real. If they put a correct headline, no one would read the article. It's much more important to have a splashy headline than a correct headline. Or do you labor under some illusion of journalism as actual information?
I agree. Especially coming from the scientific community, the phrase 'new species' is highly inaccurate and misleading.
Actually, scientists use a lot of jargon and short hand. Any other scientist would know what they meant by this. It is lawyers that are picky on word use.
Maybe now Miami can win another super bowl this year with this new species of dolphin.
Looks like a dolphin to me. I don't see why every dolphin population gets to be its own species because of a tiny genetic difference. Shoot, there is probably a bigger genetic difference between an Inuit and a Greek.
You are quite correct. There is probably the same minor difference between you and a chimpanzee.
I've been saying for years that race (some people are gonna hate this) is as good as a different species. I'm not racist and there's nothing wrong with what i'm saying, but if there are different species of animal with minute differences, how are black's and white's and asian's not of different species. Darwin would agree with that.
Or maybe no difference at all...
@Dc – There are different races in the animal kingdom as well. It's designates a minor difference, but not different enough to be a separate species.
@Dc
The simple answer is the capability to produce viable and fertile offspring. Lions and Tigers can breed to produce a Liger, but it is not able to breed with a Tigon (or lion, tiger or even another liger for that matter) to produce offspring of its own. I'm pretty sure it's been demonstrated that a black man from Kenya can impregnate a white woman from Kansas and produce a child that can have children of his own (See also: President Obama and his children)
And I'm not trying to inject politics into this. The POTUS is just a very visible case of people of different "races" (which is a scientific misnomer) producing viable and fertile offspring.
Give the man a banana...I mean...give the primate a banana
A species is defined as a group of organisms able only to reproduce fertile offspring with others of their kind. These dolphins would be defined as their own species if they can't successfully mate with dolphins of other species.
Clearly boogiman has no grasp on how much a "tiny genetic difference" makes to decipher species. If you or someone you knew has a child with Autism or some genetically inherited disorder than maybe you would appreciate the value of genetic studies and biological variances of different species and why that info can not only save a species but perhaps save your dumb ass one day from some funky disease. Perhaps you should put down the co-authored book by Michelle Bachman and Rick Perry titled "Science is evil and we didn't know that CO2 was bad you" and read "Beak of the Finch" and learn to appreciate the diversity of the natural world.
A species is a group of organisms that are capable of interbreeding. People of all races are capable of doing this, and therefore belong to the same species.
Ok, so then polar bears and brown bears are the same species. Dogs and wolves are the same species. So are dogs and coyotes. Thanks for clearing things up.
@boogietime – yes. Dogs and wolves are actually the same species (Canis lupus). The others you mentioned can indeed reproduce, but their offspring can't.
Dc, you are clueless.....Homo Sapiens are remarkably similar on a genetic level......tell you what, go do some book learnin"
now that we have discovered this "new" species we must conserve them help them alone by?? tagging them and doing dna tests with their skulls. Really i mean really they have been doing fine without you ppl abducting them and doing alien probes on them. Why not just keep the water clean pick up your plastics and leave them the hell alone
Amen....Why do we have to fck with everything on the planet?
AMEN and to add kill every living creature. I'm sure someone is on the hunt for these poor Dolphins already!!:(
Were bored . . . so we have to explore dolphin skulls and brains . . . some of us need OUR brains examined . . .
AMEN to that Joe. I'm sure the funding that goes into probing fish brains in comparison with another could be used in a much better situation . . . like ummm . . . cancer research maybe?? lol . . . but agreed . . . leave them the hell alone . . .
The Lord gave us dominion over the animals. Let's chow down!!
Japanese trawlers just left port, just to find out if they taste like a different species.
I look forward to seeing you. It will be very soon.
All of you are f-ing idiots! It is important to do research to know how many of a particular species are left so we can know if they are endangered or their numbers are doing fine. Plus every species is different in behavior, habitat needs, etc. By studying them we can better understand how to protect them from extincton. As far as money, animals have a right to survive too. Why do humans think they are the only ones that have right to survive on this planet? It was not made just for you! Also there have been many medical breakthroughs for humans by studying animals and I don't mean by lab rats or abuse. By tagging and medically observing an animal in the wild we can many times discover a breakthrough for human health as well. Maybe you should do a little more research on a topic you don't understand before you open your ignoran mouth. Thanks!
You had me at f-ing idiots.
That is complete bullsh*t . . . our "interference" with the NATURAL surroundings is whats destroying species . . . the daily shrinkage of their habitats . . . the mass slaughtering . . . pesticides . . . pollution . . . etc etc etc . . . besides go back a hundred years or so and research how many species are extinct and how many new species have emerged . . . ITS THE WAY OF THINGS!!!!! THE WAY IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN!!! not our little feeble attempt to preserve 2 of them in the freakin zoo . .. lol
Agree with you 100% Joe!
Cancer research? They find the chemicals and agents used to combat cancer and other things by raping the natural world. We don't know what kind of goodies there are in these new dolphin brains that we can synthesize, market, and distribute. We have a New World Order to chase down and these "dolphins", if you can even call them that, are standing...err...swimming in our way. I like to think of them as terrorists of the seas. Who are they to stop us from sifting through their organs and finding the parts that are beneficial to us.
I mean really, we have been given divine rights by the imaginary friend in the sky. He wants us to rape the planet and then bounce to another rock floating around another star. There is no need to live in balance or be responsible for yourself. Dolphins? Ha! Cancer? Ha!. Conservation? Ha! New Species? Ha! Newly-discovered species? Ha! We got no time for these kinds of trivial matters, Jersey Shore is on.
lolol
It does not surprise me that a new species would be found on or around Australia. I would not be surprised if a salt water marsupial would be discovered
Marsupials need air to breathe. How would a pouch confined infant gain fresh air?
They have an extra blowhole down there...l
ask the platypus
Different species of animals in and around Australia does not surprise me. I would be surprised if they do not find a salt water marsupial in the waters there.
seems to be a lot of NEW SPECIES commenting here
they do realize its only new to us. Those dolphins have been around for a long time. right?
At least since last Tuesday.
"and i have called it Persiops Australis". Gimme a break.
Haha!! I noticed the same thing!!
Why? Because you don't use scientific jargon on a daily basis.. or ever? It's a perfectly good name, and if YOU ever discover anything, you can name it whatever you want too, bub.
LMAO! Wow...went RIGHT over your head, didn't it! Poor thing. SMH
Go sit down, Stewhead.
I would prefer Knuckleheadius porpoisus
can the produce fertile offspring when crossbred with other species?
Sure looks a lot like T. truncatis, Atlantic Bottlenose dolphin. I'm kinda skeptical.
The DNA doesn't lie. This is some pretty cool stuff.
Do you ACTUALLY think that CNN went down there and took pictures? CNN pulls file photos of anything close.
Just be happy it isn't a cod or salmon in the photo, which would be more typical of CNN's scientific knowledge.
Okay cool new Dolphin found. So now what, do we count them, eat them or test them for brain capacity to carry underwater mines to submarines and ships.
no, we need to let them roam free and leave them alone, no testing, no eating, just watch as they show us their beauty.
Clearly you are sarcasm-challenge.
Pha and Bea must go!
Pha like Pah!
Don't let the Japanese know. The dolphins will end up on a table.
If they can keep the Japanese fishing boats away they might survive.
They're in Australian bays, Australians are noted for protecting their coastline and waters.
Those things are smarter than half this world's human population.
And they taste way better too.
"Sometimes, you get stuck in a snow storm. You have to eat people!"
but are they conservative or liberal?
I bet they would be surprised to learn that they are a "new" species. In any case they are beautiful animals.
gives you a sense of how 'small' our planet is huh. theres so much here we havent even seen or touched. thats nucking futs.
You do realize that people have known about these dolphins ever since humans have lived in that area, but we just now found out they are a separate species, because of new genetic testing, right? They didn't just appear in the bay last week, duh.
If the comments on this are any indication there is clearly another species that is in trouble...
dolphin, its whats for dinner!!
MORRON!
this is extraodinary. a new species is always an exciting thing to find.
BOOORING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hey nuckin futs did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed? is there where you cool off?
Indeed, you are, you jackwagon.
This is not a new species found, but a new species identified. We have known about these dolphins for years, they were thought, however, based upon outward observation, to be a subspecies of bottlenoses. What is new is the genetic study that shows that, while they look alike on the outside, they are a separt genetic line that is not related to bottlenoses any more than any other dolphin type.
This is part of a growing trend in taxonomy of identifying species by genome rather than morphology.
I was going to post something similiar until I saw your post. Such a false headline. Good to see a post that actually relates to the article.
Looks like a flying condom
get ur mind out of the gutter. finding a new species is a rare.
It should, it's a picture of your mom.
I WANNA EAT THEM AND THEIR BABIES
Derp, you need a good beating. Shut your mouth.