Which rock killed the dinosaurs? The plot thickens
Scientists blame huge clashing asteroids for wiping out Earth's dinosaurs 65 million years ago.
September 20th, 2011
10:20 AM ET

Which rock killed the dinosaurs? The plot thickens

(CNN) - A 65-million-year-old murder mystery just got a bit more mysterious.

Which "family" of asteroids killed earth's dinosaurs?

New data from NASA's orbiting Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) throws doubt on a 2007 theory that blamed the death of the dinosaurs on fragments from an asteroid family called Baptistina, located between Mars and Jupiter.

Baptistina was a huge asteroid which crashed into another space rock millions of years ago, sending mountain-sized pieces flying in various directions.

Scientists had theorized one of those Baptistina fragments slammed into the Gulf of Mexico, triggering the end of Earth's reptile dynasty.

The earlier Baptistina estimates were off, says Lindley Johnson, program executive for the Near Earth Object (NEO) Observation Program at NASA Headquarters in Washington. "With infrared light, WISE was able to get a more accurate estimate."

Infrared light is electromagnetic radiation which humans sense as heat.

Reconstructing what really happened so many millions of years ago sounds very much like a script from a detective show.

Baptistina broke up into chunks about 15 million years before the dino-killing event, according to WISE data - which doesn't fit scientists' timeline.

In this crime of epoch proportions, that gives Baptistina a pretty good alibi.

Baptistina asteroids apparently were nowhere near the scene of the crime because it likely would have taken millions of years longer for them to drift into regions of space called resonances.

Resonances have gravitational forces created by Saturn and Jupiter which can shoot asteroids toward Earth - sort of like a pinball machine.

"It doesn’t completely rule it out as the source of the dino-killing culprit," says Amy Mainzer, who co-authored the WISE study. "But it does give theorists something new to think about."

What damaged the Baptistina theory?

Mainzer's team measured the size and amount of sunlight reflected from 120,000 asteroids, including 1,056 members of the Baptistina Family. From that data, they calculated how much time it took these asteroids to reach their current locations.

When Mainzer talks about the project, the conversation is sprinkled with vocabulary you might hear in a gangster flick or an episode of "Law & Order."

There are no "major suspects"  in the case, she says - now that Baptistina is in the clear. She plans to create "family trees," for thousands of asteroids - conjuring up images of FBI bulletin boards with photos of Mafia crime bosses connected by pieces of string.

"The first thing we want to do is look at the whole asteroid belt and really kind of go back to Square One and say, 'OK, what are the major families that we know about in the asteroid belt and which are the most likely culprits?'" she says.

Ironically, Mainzer's position in the project is labeled "principal investigator."

The asteroids in our solar system's main asteroid belt range in size from about 0.6 miles wide to 583 miles across. In fact, about once a year a car-sized asteroid strays toward earth and burns up while entering the earth's atmosphere, according to NASA.gov.

By the way, astronomers recently surprised Mainzer by naming an asteroid after her called "234750 Amymainzer."

"We did indeed observe it with WISE," she says. "It is a bit funny to have your namesake be a seven kilometer chunk of charcoal-dark rock!"

Fortunately, she jokes, asteroid Amymainzer poses no hazard to the Earth or its inhabitants.

What's next? Just like any good police investigation, you need to establish a credible timeline.

"We've got to go back in time as it were to reconstruct what happened using the huge amount of new information we now have thanks to WISE," says Mainzer.

"That's going to help point us in the right direction, I hope."

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  1. Muhammad

    Locks Them*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  2. Muhammad


    September 22, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  3. Muhammad

    Those who follow you*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  4. Muhammad

    Satan Number 1.

    September 22, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  5. Muhammad


    September 22, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  6. Muhammad

    Reserve for righteous.

    September 22, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  7. Muhammad

    Where rivers flow*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:28 am |
  8. Muhammad

    More Trillion Hereafters*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  9. Muhammad

    More Trillion Earth’s.

    September 22, 2011 at 10:27 am |
  10. Muhammad

    See the Majesty of my Lord.

    September 22, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  11. Muhammad

    But it is too late.*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  12. Muhammad

    Justice of my revelation*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  13. Muhammad

    Do you know what I want?

    September 22, 2011 at 10:25 am |
  14. Muhammad

    The stars are Moving.*

    September 22, 2011 at 10:24 am |
  15. bwydeman

    I disagree with scientist saying that the a hugh rock killed the dinosaurs. I respect there arguments but I believe in the word God in what happen to these enormous beast. I do believe that these large creatures, lizards, lived before the flood. The oxygen content was much higher. In the island of Malta where they a museum they’ve got these enormous saber tooth tigers that are like you know 12 feet long; and they’ve got these staggering racks of moose horns about 20 feet across. All of these creatures, mammals and dinosaurs, were much bigger. When the oxygen content was depleted, a lot of the larger creatures – their lung capacity would not handle it after the flood – and they became extinct. But I believe there were some great creatures, not just reptiles but other types. Science today denies a universal flood, as it would destroy the continuity of the fossil record in the geological column. In this video, evidence for precisely such a universal phenomenon is presented with fascinating video material from modern day catastrophes on a smaller scale. The origin of the petrified forests and their flood implications are also discussed. Please check it out http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/7/102-a-universal-flood/

    September 22, 2011 at 2:43 am |
  16. Bucko G

    I think it's a good thing to continue investigating this theory. Reason: investigating A almost always leads to discovery B, C, etc.... the spinoff effect. One never knows!

    September 22, 2011 at 12:43 am |
  17. jC

    Creationism has nothing to do with biblical (or any other) myth, it has only to do with science: it's the awareness that this divine Universe was intended or planned, and was not a product of 'nothing'. Centuries old Newtonian Law just disproved atheism.

    In that sense, atheism is the most destructive religion of all, as it's the only one which begins with a false premise, regardless of the subsequent theory.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:36 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      There is ZERO science in creationism. Get a life and an education.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm |
  18. Charles

    Didn't anyone see Batman & Robin? The ice age killed the dinosaurs. Jeez you guys.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:15 pm |
  19. bobster

    G.O.D Stands for: wait for it...here it comes..wait...wait..o.k.! here it is..the SUN. That's it people, it means the sun. like WOW! Earth is just part of what is morphing in space of what happens to be a continuance of space.

    September 21, 2011 at 9:29 pm |
  20. Aaron L.

    Let us ask the religious nuts what they think about this first.

    September 21, 2011 at 9:14 pm |
  21. dick

    wait i thought dinosaurs after a 100 millon years of being the perfect machines, rising from slime to stories tall, became chickens? now i find out asteroids killed them? well how than did the chicken get here? and the other birds? its all astrology to me. these people need to find Christ.

    September 21, 2011 at 7:59 pm |

    According to Giorgio Tsoukalos, ALIENS DID IT!

    September 21, 2011 at 7:47 pm |
  23. lawlita

    Is it just me? or maybe I don't get the joke? I counted THREE grammar/spelling errors while reading this article on my tiny BlackBerry. “*princiPLE investigator”? "Crime of EPOCH proportions"? "She'S plans to create?" If we keep going like this, WE deserve to go the way of the poor dumb dinosaurs. C'mon CNN – this is what you are hiring nowadays? And I'm the one who's unemployed... World is upside down.

    September 21, 2011 at 6:49 pm |
  24. Read It!

    Listen, Christians and atheists! The Bible DOES NOT say that God created the earth on the first day. The very first sentence of the Bible says the earth was without form, and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep. It was already in existence. The history of humans only dates back to this time. Not the earth itself.

    September 21, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      So, what's your point? The bible also says you can cure leprosy by sprinkling the blood of a bird on the deceased person's skin with the feathers of a live bird... don't see too many people using this treatment today... what is it that they use again? Oh yeah, medical SCIENCE.

      September 21, 2011 at 6:37 pm |
  25. JoAnn Bartholomew

    We'll,find out soon enough,on what rock killed those dinosaurs.As,soon we ,all die of one thing,or another.Then,we'll find OUT what REALLY HAPPENED. JoAnn Bartholomew

    September 21, 2011 at 3:15 pm |
  26. marc

    We don't know and neither do you....

    September 21, 2011 at 2:09 pm |
  27. toothpick

    nobody care wat fudging rock killed the dinosaurs its a big rock so wat

    September 21, 2011 at 1:47 pm |
  28. Erik

    Kevin, you actually said:
    "evolution is a fact, the theory of evolution explains this fact. educate yourself fool!" A theory is not a fact until it becomes law. I 100% believe in evolution, but if evolution is still classified as a "theory", defination-wise it is not fact. What is important is to look for truths about evolutions, and use these truths against creationism to back up your arugment against creationism. Lawyers are are like good philosophers in this respect.

    September 21, 2011 at 12:40 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      Actually, it's important to learn the definitions of the words you are trying to understand... You'd have to know what I'm talking about when I say the word gopher... am I talking about a prairie dog like rodent? or am I talking about the tortoise that lives in the Southern USA? I guess it depends on where we are having the conversation...

      Here, you are in a science blog... use the scientific definition of theory and fact... if you mean guess... use the term hypothesis, if you use the term fact, we understand that you are talking about an observation....




      Definitions. They're important.

      September 21, 2011 at 6:42 pm |
  29. gj

    LISTEN FRIENDS..Open your eyes and heart....Do you see the starving and dying kids in Somalia? Why dont you spend some time to do something to save 1 human being rather than thinking about which rock killed an animal x years ago?

    Why dont you sponsor your time for a kid in Somalia rather than sponsoring your life to think about a fictitious rock?

    – GJ

    September 21, 2011 at 12:14 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      why don't you donate to Doctors without borders rather than wasting your time worshiping a fictitious god?

      September 21, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
  30. Dr Funkie

    "A 65-million-year-old murder mystery just got a bit more mysterious". This time line is absolutely bull shit.
    Note: These liars are pushing the time line out of the reach of reason with all excuses and no evidence.
    "Aliens, Big Foot, Evolution, and other urban legends are all in the fiction section. “Stupid is what stupid believes.”
    – What came first the Egg or the Bird? How stupid to spend time and money to prove which came first. “Get a Life.”
    – Water on Mars? Who gives a shit. NASA went broke trying to prove this lie. They spent tax payer money on their hobbies.
    This money would be well spent improving our position in the world, such as:
    – Exploration is Fine with the intent of finding resources not “Aliens or Water”.
    – Astrology? This is a hobby.
    The conditions that scientist say created man was also available for other species of man to develop, but to their excuse only man had the right stuff. BULLSHIT. Where's the evidence? A Theory is not a true fact, but in most cases a lie to justify another lie.
    – Evolution? Where are the Lizard, Bird and other species of humanoids instead of just the ape man.
    “Having a PHD in Astrology is equivalent to a Hill Billy having a PHD in seed spitting.”

    Evidence of God is in all Creation. The evidence of evolution is all in mans imagination.

    September 21, 2011 at 12:05 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      Ok, you're not a real Dr (you may have a doctorate in some artsy fartsy field but definitely not science)... you are a troll. Here's my evidence to this:
      1) You don't know what a scientific theory is (look it up on Wikipedia... or Google)
      2) You don't know the difference between Astrology and Astronomy. While you are correct in stating that astrology is a hobby, this article is not about astrology, but rather astroNOMY.
      3) 65 million years is not out of the bounds of reason as we have EMPIRICAL evidence that the universe is over 14 BILLION years old. (remember that in the 1930's, $1,000,000.00 was practically unheard of... today, there are at least 10 billionaires living in the city of Moscow, Russia ALONE) and let's not forget the US debt is well into the TRILLIONS of dollars... no, these numbers are not hard to accept... (but your bible is)
      4) Who's arguing about the chicken or the egg? I think you're trying to deflect the issue, not very clever and quite dishonest.
      5) Water on Mars: until recently, water was thought to be the only medium for life, so the hypothesis was stipulated that if we can find water somewhere else, we may find life also. Water is also important for humans and if water is found on Mars (in a large sustainable quantity) that would be one less resource we'd need to bring if we ever explored the planet.
      6) "The conditions that scientist say created man was also available for other species of man to develop, but to their excuse only man had the right stuff." When you drive to work in the morning, you use the roads... and you get to your place of employment... When I drive to work in the morning, I use the roads... and I get to my place of employment... Why don't we work at the same place?
      7) Study the Phylogeny tree and you will see where all these creatures diverged from common decent.
      8) There is no credible evidence of god(s) in any of creation, especially when you refuse to take the good AND the bad of creation and attribute them to him.

      Get a refund for your degree... it's not worth the paper your diploma is written on.

      September 21, 2011 at 12:48 pm |
  31. joe

    "The asteroids in our solar system's main asteroid belt range in size from about 0.6 miles wide to 583 miles across. In fact, about once a year a car-sized asteroid strays toward earth and burns up while entering the earth's atmosphere, according to NASA.gov."
    Hey author, is a car sized asteroid within the range of .6 mile to 583 miles? I don't think so. You might want to re-phrase your point because it sounds like you are contradicting yourself.

    September 21, 2011 at 10:13 am |
  32. Dustin

    anybody have a response to my statement?

    September 21, 2011 at 9:32 am |
  33. BibleBeliever

    This kind of research is a huge waste of money. So-called fossils were placed in the ground by the devil to confuse people and tempt them. Since EVILoution is a huge LIE, so-called "fossils" are only a few thousand years old and obviously not millions of years.

    September 21, 2011 at 8:59 am |
    • Judas Priest

      So your god does this just to screw with people?
      What's that? The devil? Oh. So your god allows an "anti-god" to go around making evil changes to his creation?
      Let me posit you this. If this "anti-god" can go around changing god's own creation, what prevents him from whispering falsehoods in the ears of the humans who wrote the bible? If your god allows the "anti-god" devil the power to alter all creation for the sake of temptation into evil, what better than to insert falsehoods into god's own holy book?
      Just sayin.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:12 am |
  34. Pat, La.

    The Flood Killed the Dinosaurs

    September 21, 2011 at 8:50 am |
  35. Dustin

    Don't forget that before Adam and Eve ate the a 'apple of knowledge' their was no sin according to God and even after God tried to convince them that their is no sin only doubt of the actions they commit and don't you find it strange that God said ' WE created man in OUR own image'

    September 21, 2011 at 8:47 am |
    • Deedubya

      I always find it strange that god was too stupid to put a fence around that damn tree. Why was it even there in the first place? Maybe the warranty on the universe was only valid if he installed all the parts in the kit.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:06 am |
    • Judas Priest

      The only possible answer is that god wanted man to fall. God created man with a flaw, then set man up to fail. Why? Does god just derive great pleasure from jerking people around?
      Logic and the bible jsut don't play well together.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:14 am |
  36. Deedubya

    So if I understand this correctly there is no dispute that the dinosaurs were killed by the meteorite that hit the Yucatan near Chicxulub but only about where it came from in the first place?

    September 21, 2011 at 8:03 am |
  37. JoeProfet

    Oh the wisdom, oh the intellect coming from the blasphemous sewers of the nephews and nieces of monkeys! I know, you are proud to be part of the evolutionary chain derived from monkeys. And, your rhetoric amounts to inane bable just as your aunts and uncles did whilst swinging from trees. Oh you generation of vipers, you wicked, wicked monkeys!

    September 21, 2011 at 7:40 am |
    • Judas Priest

      Anything you don't understand you call a babble. I have to agree with Heinlein here.
      Out of curiosity do you read your new testament in Aramaic, or do you stick with the Greek texts?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:21 am |
      • JoeProfet

        Monkey see, monkey do, Judas!!

        September 22, 2011 at 7:52 am |
  38. morgan p.

    I read an interesting theory long ago. It addressed the effect of temperature on the gender of dinosaurs.

    Any earth event that would cause a great increase in the temperature could cause all land dwelling reptiles to begin having all offspring as females. In time they would become extinct due to a lack of males. The water dwelling creatures or those that lay eggs in wet areas would not have been affected the same because water warms much more slowly. Alligators, frogs, turtles, etc. There may have been some lizards survive by laying eggs in rocky areas to avoid the high temps.

    Mind you, it was only proposed as a theory but it had substantial basis in laboratory tests.

    Interesting I think. The warming could have been caused by a combination of asteroid strikes and volcano eruptions.

    September 21, 2011 at 2:44 am |
  39. SiriusVH

    Roz .... splendid summary ... I wish people knew all the myths predating Christ. That would help them put him in the correct historical, mythological and religious context. That might also explain why there is this big gap of about 20 years in the 'recorded' life of Christ. If the life of Christ is an arrangement of predating myths focused on birth and death (typical topics of mythology) little can be said about what happens in between.

    Anyway, the topic was .... asteroids, right?

    September 21, 2011 at 1:30 am |
  40. cap gun

    Ok, ok, I confess. I killed the dinosaurs. I just could not help myself. there was no gun law or I didn't need a hunting permit, I just ran amuk and started killing them with my trusty cap gun....

    September 20, 2011 at 11:44 pm |
  41. spaceGods

    Those who believe in God and do good will die and hope to go to heaven. heaven is well..the coolest place in the universe.
    Those who believe in God and still do evil things will die and expect to go to heaven, but its a long shot. if lucky, they probably end up reformed and burned up a little in Purgatory.., that is not a cool place, but an oven toaster of the universe.
    Those who don't believe in God and do good will die and end up in the toaster as well.
    Those who don't believe in God and mock God the more will die and will be recycled and become fuel to the numerous energy-hungry HELLs we now see as STARS.
    "twinkle twinkle little star..how i wonder what you are..."

    September 20, 2011 at 11:22 pm |
  42. augustghost

    The republicans killed the dinosauers

    September 20, 2011 at 10:16 pm |
  43. JehseaLynn

    @WIZRD1 I, too, have a 147 IQ, 2 BAs and a law degree (for the fun of it – ,I would never be a lawer!). I LOVE your posts . You have a good mind and a sense of humor. Will you intellectually-marry me? You can catch pics at http://www.okcupid.com/jehsea. HMU.

    September 20, 2011 at 9:48 pm |
  44. Jon

    "Resonances have gravitational forces created by Saturn and Jupiter which can shoot asteroids toward Earth"
    So the skeleton men of Jupiter have set their sights on Earth as well as Mars? I think that should have been "can send asteroids into the inner solar system".
    CNN, how about changing the pictures? The one of the guy pretending he's Superman is getting OLD.

    September 20, 2011 at 8:54 pm |
  45. Jose San Antonio

    I've been noticing it a lot when an article is about science, God and religion always comes up. I don't know where God fits in when the atomic bomb was made, when Sputnick made its first orbit around earth, when first man reach the moon, when penicillin was created, when automobile was made, how get into the internet, wireless devices, high speed train system, cure for some diseases, and preventive cancer treatment. If we all obey and do what the bible, some of some will be dead already by catching a common. It says in the book somewhere, live by faith, not by sight... trust in the Lord... If miracles and healing happens, what do you say to a parent who has a child with cancer. If there is only one book, why so many denominations.

    September 20, 2011 at 8:43 pm |
  46. Pert ner Supertime

    Was it definately a comet that destroyed the dinosaurs? Or could it have been a supervolcano?

    September 20, 2011 at 8:31 pm |
  47. Operaman

    It wasn't rock that killed the dinosaurs, it was country music.

    Or, if you ask the tea party, it was Noah. There was PLENTY of room on the ark for at least 1 Apatosaurus, Noah!

    September 20, 2011 at 8:25 pm |
    • Jim

      and on the 8th day, God created rock-n-roll.

      September 21, 2011 at 9:00 am |
  48. somebody

    Why is everyone so incredibly moronic? Sorry to insult, but really. Specifically what I'm talking about is the a. religous fanatics and b. the over-the-top aetheists.

    First, to the Christians and other religous people who are overreacting: Chillax. Science and religion can coexist. You wanna know my theory? God caused the Big Bang. There ya go. Also, did you know that according to several 'lost' books of the Bible Mary Magdelene was a disciple? The people who put together the bible from the books left out a lot. They were sexist.

    To the aetheists: Just because you don't believe in a God doesn't mean you get to bash everyone who does.

    Oh, and also–to the people who actually commented on the ARTICLE and not your religous/non-religous thoughts on it– THANK YOU. YOU ARE ROLE MODELS.

    Just my opinion, and yes I did indeed feel a need to write a novel on this.

    As for my thoughts about the actual article and intended focus of this discussion, I think this is pretty cool. I hope they do find out which asteroid (for real) killed the dinosaurs. Sorry about the rant.

    September 20, 2011 at 8:02 pm |
  49. Garry

    Jesus is in my garage and I can prove it.

    September 20, 2011 at 7:21 pm |
  50. Judas Priest

    Roz, i think it's more important to ask: Why are all these gods spending so much time knocking up virgins?

    September 20, 2011 at 7:16 pm |
  51. MikeColorado

    I don't think rock that killed he dinosaurs. I was probably Rap and hip-hop!

    September 20, 2011 at 6:17 pm |
  52. bc

    To those who actually believe in Evolution: I don't know of any ape, monkey, chimpanzee, oranguntan, gorilla, elephant, tiger, lion, snake, bee, deer, cat, dog, whale, fish, bird, bug, invertabrate, vertabrate, AND ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN NAME BESIDES A HUMAN BEING, that can do ALL of the following: Love unconditionally, show mercy, excitement, anger, depression, put others before themselves. Oh, and nothing but a human being can: speak different languages, build cars, planes, submarines, ships, skyscrapers, subways, bridges, and anything else.

    Just think about it. We don't obey animals, they obey us. I whistle, my dog comes to me. He doesnt call to me unless he is hungry. And I have to feed him. He doesnt feed me. Animals can't make fire. But we can. Animals can't willingly travel to the moon or comprehend a minute fraction of what we can.

    Just step back and think about what animals can do and what you can do BEFORE justifying that there is no God.

    September 20, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • SB

      This has nothing at all to do with the article. That makes it spam. Best thing to do with spamming trolls is simply ignore them. Don't feed it, don't bother debating it. Just let the spam wither and die before it wastes any more space on this board than it already has.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:27 pm |
    • Zeynep

      We shouldn't reject the validity of science if it doesn't explain something 'today' because every day we learn something new and revise our theories and solve more advanced problems. That's how we were able to find cures to diseases, make better planes and cars. I don't understand why we compare religion and science ever… Where is the science in saying God created anything? It's nice to believe in God and religion unless it hinders our species' advancement. That would be a sad waste of our intelligence.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:43 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      I own horses that all love unconditionally, show mercy, excitement, anger, depression, and put others before themselves. Oh golly, but they don't build cars. You got me there.
      I should probably clue you in, your dog hates your guts. Now get off the computer and go back to dominating your poor children, you sanctimonious git.

      September 20, 2011 at 7:20 pm |
    • Operaman

      You don't seem to understand time scales. Take 1 million of something – let's say you have 1 million copies of Sarah Palin's latest book. Now drop them in the garbage can, one at a time. Now do that again, 100 times more. Then you might understand what 100 million years really means to a single species, or as you so aptly stated, ANY SPECIES YOU CAN NAME.

      September 20, 2011 at 8:36 pm |
  53. livinalie

    PlanetX LOL!!

    September 20, 2011 at 5:39 pm |
  54. Tea Destroys Brain Cels

    The dinosaurs aren't extinct... they just never evolved. Today, we call them Tea Party members...

    September 20, 2011 at 5:36 pm |
    • bc

      apparently you never made it past the single-cell organism.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:14 pm |
      • Judas Priest

        Citing evolution as a gag, bc? How ungodly of you. You'll burn for sure for that.

        September 21, 2011 at 10:26 am |
  55. XO

    Chuck Norris killed them

    September 20, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • fran glass

      with his pinky finger.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:47 pm |
  56. livinalie

    It's time "they" come clean dinosaurs was destroyed by a asteroid as a result of cosmic events associated with the passing of our binery star "PlanetX"

    September 20, 2011 at 5:32 pm |
    • SB

      Why is it that conspiracy wingnuts almost universally ignore the obvious? With your naked eye you can see stars that are hundreds of light years away, even in crappy city skies that are washed out by the city light. We could not possibly - not even *possibly* - be unaware of a second star here in our own system. Even the coolest, smallest of stars would be an absurdly obvious feature in the sky.

      Take your meds and take a breath. No one is hiding a secret star from you.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
  57. mikes

    "She plan's?" "Ironically?" Apparently, education in the English language is not a requirement to be a CNN writer/editor.

    September 20, 2011 at 5:21 pm |
    • Gollumn

      What's there's the's problemses with she plan's?

      September 20, 2011 at 5:26 pm |
      • Paul

        Gollum, dude, you misspelled your name again.

        September 20, 2011 at 5:28 pm |

    99% of all religious people in every country believe in the exact same religion as their parents, proving that religious people arrived at their beliefs through oppressive indoctrination by authority figures in their life rather than by a process of objective learning, free discovery, and education. Almost all religious people came into their belief system before they were even old enough to attend a PG-13 movie, let alone intellectually challenge what they were being told. So the idea that as an adult they now try to retroactively justify their religious beliefs as being born of scientific logic is not only absurd but historically flase, since we all know you already believed in your religion long before you even attended high school or took a single science course. And your belief as an adult is simply an extension of that delusional belief system. Religious adults never grew out of their childhood horror stories told to them by their religious nutcase parents and churches (regardless of which religion you believe in, almost every God fits the definition of a psychopathic megalomanic – i.e. God takes revenge on people by sending them to Hell for eternity simply because they don't believe in Him? Classic psychopathology.).

    Don't religious people find it even remotely strange that children born to Jewish parents invariably believe in the teachings of the Jewish religion, Catholic children believe in Catholicism, Muslim children believe in Islam, Indian children believe in Hindu, etc? Does that really sound like religious people are independently coming to their own conclusions through objective reasoning....or that they are simply regurgitating by rote a belief system that was force-fed to them by abusive parents and authority figures during their childhood?

    Honestly, Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy don't come close the ludicrous delusion that is God – an invisible bearded Sky Daddy who sits suspended in the clouds and becomes enraged when the little people he created on Earth don't worship him. PUH-LEEZ.

    September 20, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
    • Nonsence

      99% of all statistics are made up.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:43 pm |
    • bc

      maybe before you spouted off remarks here BEFORE knowing people, religion or even yourself, you will go educate yourself...you're talking like someone who doesn't have a brain. Try spell check too. Usually works.
      So I suppose you are one of those people who can't find anything to believe in, doesn't understand why he/she was even born and sees everything as evolution. How come we still have single-celled organisms if thats what we evolved from? Why aren't the apes and gorillas and chimps speaking English or any other language? Why is it hard to believe taht 2000 years ago, Christ, God in human flesh came to this world to die for the believers and non-believers. Why is it easier to believe fossils than writings and the thousands upon thousands of witnesses to Christ's miracles? When you can answer that............................

      September 20, 2011 at 6:23 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        As an Atheist, I believe:
        Humans do not require a god to be moral.
        Religion divides more than it unites.
        It’s untrue that atheists “believe in nothing.”
        It does not take more faith to be an atheist.
        Atheists do not deny god because they wish to be gods.
        Religion and science are incompatible.
        Complexity does not equal design.
        The scientific method trumps primitive anonymous texts.
        The scriptures are ridiculous, offensive and demonstrably false.
        One doesn’t require an afterlife to have a meaningful life.
        Threats of eternal hell-fire betray a weak argument.
        Schools should be filled with facts, not fanatics.
        Your personal experience does not prove god.
        An inability to disprove god does not prove god.
        Not knowing what caused the Big Bang does not prove god.
        And if you believe in any gods, the burden of proof is on you.

        I think that sums it up nicely.
        As for your "gotcha" questions: I'll explain by asking you a question... try to follow:
        You are the product of your father and your mother.
        Your father and his brother are the product of your grand-father.
        Now if you exist, why is your uncle still around?

        Now take that principle and extrapolate it over THOUSANDS of years.

        Next, apes, chimps, orangutans, and bonobos all evolved differently from us... they are on a different path... you and your brother are driving down the highway, at a major intersection, you go straight, your brother turns left... you end up in San Diego, he ends up in Florida...

        Next, why not believe in the Bible? BECAUSE IT'S FULL OF CONTRADICTIONS AND DEMONSTRABLY WRONG INFORMATION. BECAUSE it's very similar to ALL the previous world religions that you (assumingly) admit are false...
        BECAUSE you dismiss every god in recorded human history based on the fact that there is no evidence to support it's existence yet you refuse to apply the same reasoning to your version of the god of the bible.

        And finally, witnesses lie for many reasons... some to get that gratification of being the centre of attention, even if only for a moment. Fossils can't lie at all... they are documented where they were discovered and through the process of peer review, the fossil is studied intensely.

        I'll give you a challenge for your "witnesses". We'll take the very important, well documented event of Jesus' trial and crucifixion: What was the colour of Jesus' robe? (a detail worth mentioning twice in the Bible)

        September 20, 2011 at 11:11 pm |
  59. Chris

    Look im all for people believing in what the want....but sometimes those people are blinded by beliefs....fact is dinosaurs existed and the were killed by a earth changing event.....

    September 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  60. ERR:RebootsDServer

    CNNN Headline News
    Against the Gods, GOD: "Under Attack"
    .......Scientists have discovered GOD may not actually exist....

    September 20, 2011 at 5:04 pm |
  61. Toledo Windowbox

    If you have one hundred odds and ends
    and you toss out 99 of them,
    what do you have left,
    an odd or an end ?
    (George Carlin)

    September 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
    • Paul

      The odds are that you are left with an 'end'.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:06 pm |
  62. TIM

    Are they still trying to say it was an asteroid that killed the dinosaurs?! It's already been proven that dinosaurs died over a course of thousands of years. If it had been an asteroid that killed them, it would have killed them all off around the same time. I'll let common sense take it from here...

    September 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
    • Toledo Windowbox

      I have common sense, but i choose to ignore it.
      (calvin & hobbes)

      September 20, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
      • somebody

        Best cartoon ever 🙂

        September 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
    • SB

      Common sense says that in the aftermath of the global destruction caused by such an impact, large creatures that require large amounts of food and habitat area would be among the first to die off.

      Maybe the dinos were already on their way out. There is some evidence to that effect. But the rock did hit; the geological evidence includes the crater so there's no "if" about it. And the rock that made that impact scar would have jacked up the entire planet. The direct damage from the blast is only the beginning. The secondary effects would be both long-term and global; everything from tsunami, quakes, fires, blotting out the sun... bad times.

      The global geological record can be summed up like this: Below this line, dinosaurs. Above this line, no dinosaurs. Between them you find a region of scorched, charred destruction that coincides with the time of the impact.

      Kinda' hard to argue with that, which is why most sane people don't.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:16 pm |

      TIM – Just because you find a dinosaur fossil, doesn't mean the dinosaur was killed off by an asteroid. Finding out WHY a dinosaur died is always just a guess. Also, an asteroid strike would not kill off al the dinosaurs immediately. The change in weather could lead to a gradual extinction of the species located far away from the impact zone simply by way of altering their vegetation and climate over many generations, leading to its slow extinction. The only dinosaurs that would be immediately killed would be those located within, say, a 3-5,000 mile radius of the impact. Everything outside that radius would have to be killed through indirect means of a changing climate and depleted vegetation, which could take thousands of years to do under the laws of natural selection.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:33 pm |
  63. SB

    Don't misunderstand - there is no doubt that an enormous rock hit our planet 65 million years ago with the kind of mass and force and destruction that wiped out whole species. This article is about identifying where the rock came from.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
  64. Jeff

    GOD, won't you YEC Christians stop pushing your world wide flood crap in everyone's faces. PLEASE go out for yourselves, something many Christians do not have the capacity to do, and study the evidence instead of blindly following Ken Ham down his rediculous science path to YEC. Oh by the way, I spent 17 years of my life following YEC's dogma and then woke up when I actually studied the scientific evidence for an old earth.

    Wasn't this article about which rock killed the dinosaurs? I don't know, and may never know, but one thing I do know is they didn't live with man or they would be buried along side of man.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:58 pm |
  65. Merecat

    I say it was T Rex... Bang a Gong! that Rock..

    September 20, 2011 at 4:51 pm |
  66. wendy5

    i'll tell you how to find it; because its still here somewhere or did it fly home; idiots i hear its brother called planet x will be arriving in the future

    September 20, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      Your 'planet x' has arrived... and is IN MY PANTS.
      Now go back to sleep.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:29 am |
  67. Dr.K.

    You see, dinosaurs had very small brains. That's why they believed Dr. Oz and suffered dehydration from not drinking juice, treated their dehydration with Reiki healing and psychic surgery, and died. Dr. Oz killed the dinosaurs. Wait, am I off topic here?

    September 20, 2011 at 4:48 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      No, that's pretty spot on.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:30 am |
  68. snow

    Aw Come on you guys. Everybody knows that the Dinosaurs do not exist! if they did, they would have been mentioned in the Bible. What GOD actually did was to create the earth as it is – complete with the skeletons of his toys that these heathen scientists now call dinosaurs. Truth is that they never existed!! Know the truth and attain salvation.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
    • TIM

      So you don't believe in dinosaurs even though their skeletons cover the earth but you believe in God which has no evidence what so ever one exists?! I bet you think wrestling is real too!

      September 20, 2011 at 5:07 pm |
      • Paul

        If you had only seen, the legend, Jimmy "SuperFly" Snuka, in action you would believe wrestling was real, too. 😛

        September 20, 2011 at 5:15 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      So god spent 3 1/2 billion years screwing around with 'toy' life forms before looking at the clock and saying, "Holy Me! I've only got 3 more days to finish this up or the rights revert back to Marvel Comics!"
      Bad joke aside, how is god experimenting with life for the last 3 1/2 billion years functionally different from evolution? Why wouldn't god have had a "Little Deities(tm) My First Evolv-O-Matic" in their toybox?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:35 am |
  69. DL

    All this talk of floods and dinosaurs and extinction. If you really need to know what happened, here is a great link:

    September 20, 2011 at 4:39 pm |
  70. Bojinkles

    Which rock killed the dinosaurs? Answer: Rock and Roll Raptor Jesus was not a fan of it and thus died for our sins.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
  71. StephensB

    Which rock killed the dinosaurs ??????? , sheesh , take your pick , punk rock , grunge rock , prog rock ,
    Long Live The Beatles !!!!

    September 20, 2011 at 4:33 pm |
    • fimeilleur

      hey, you forgot fraggle rock

      September 21, 2011 at 10:56 pm |
  72. leecherius

    It has been reported than humans originated in Africa (Lucy). Now , if I recall correctly from high school biology , if you start cultures in a petri dish the logical conclusion would be that the largest colony would be the oldest. So why are their so many more people in asia than africa. Maybe because they just haven't found it yet?Just wondering.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      Fallacy. Or you weren't waiting long enough. Give a culture enough time and repetitions and you will see that the center usually dies back as resources deplete, with the greatest growth occurring somewhere on the periphery. Kind of like New Jersey.
      But even this is an unfair comparison. Africa has always had a substantial population, well at least up until euros started thinning them out in the colonial period. Furthermore, Asia's population didn't start to skyrocket until well after they'd developed a stable, largely agrarian culture.
      It's not that this hasn't happened in Africa, it has. Most of the high civilizations in Africa petered out, as civilizations tend to do. the oldest center of civilization in Africa also happens to be the oldest still-populated civilization in the world: Egypt.

      September 21, 2011 at 10:44 am |
  73. Keith

    Interesting. If they can roll time backwards to determine which space rocks didn't cause mass extinction; think they'd be able to roll to clock forwards and pinpoint which space rocks are likely to head towards our planet and also pinpoint the decade that will happen. Ugh, maybe they already have & just won't let anyone know!

    September 20, 2011 at 4:30 pm |
  74. Can-Science

    We need to answer the real question, because rather than "what killed them?", I'd rather be answering, "How can we bring them back?".

    Because you and I know it, Stegosaurus probably tastes like Pork, and I bet I could cook us all up a big plate of Jack Daniels – Stegosaurus ribs.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:29 pm |
  75. ...................

    big rock always wins

    September 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
    • MaybeAgnosticMaybeNot

      Until the big paper shows up.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:26 pm |
  76. bailoutsos

    Maybe God got bored with dinosaurs and cupped his hands tightly around earth to suffocate them?

    September 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  77. ...................

    the big rock always kills- even the dinos

    September 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
  78. MaybeAgnosticMaybeNot

    The impact would have definitly magnified the effect of the already increased volconism resulting after the break up of pangea. I would give it the assist, but not the ultimate cause.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:18 pm |
  79. bailoutsos

    Being picky about something that happened 65 million years ago?

    September 20, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
  80. Dinosaur saddle

    Hey, when Jesus parked his dinosaur did he have put water out for it or was that Judas' job?

    September 20, 2011 at 4:07 pm |
    • Toledo Windowbox

      Poor Fred Flinstone, still stops his car with his feet.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:17 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      That dick never watered his horses.

      September 20, 2011 at 7:23 pm |
  81. Lancelot Link

    The dinosaurs did not die out. Over millennia they are evolving into feathered bibles.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      Wokka wokka!

      September 21, 2011 at 10:51 am |
  82. Lizardite

    I'm not convinced any impact was responsible for the Dino extinction. Too many other similar creatures survived that time-frame (the crocodilians and the turtles), so some other mechanism must explain it. I favor the rise of birds, who were notorious egg-eaters. Could it be that certain reptiles survived because they were better able to hide/protect their eggs? Really, most species disappear because something better comes along. Forget about which rock – it wasn't a rock at all!

    September 20, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
    • Scooter De Vu Lenti

      The Dinosaurs died because they were made in Satan's image so God destroyed them with hellfire and brimstone about six thousand years ago.

      Spend less time learning hippy schlock at school and more time reading the bible.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:15 pm |
      • brett

        i don't remember that part of the bible. can you give me some passages, where it says that? not that I believe the bible anyway, but I don't even remember anything close to what you just said.

        September 20, 2011 at 7:13 pm |
  83. Leeanne


    September 20, 2011 at 4:03 pm |
    • Jim

      You are the physical evidence that you exist. Yes, I agree. What does that have to with the conversation?

      September 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
  84. God never wrote anything

    Did god make dinosaurs?

    September 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
  85. sortakinda

    It really wasn't rock. It was disco what killed the beasts.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • StephensB

      I thought it was punk rock ????

      September 20, 2011 at 4:35 pm |
  86. Leeanne

    Jim – haven't you ever seen those Discovery/History Channel programs with titles like "In Search of Noah's Ark" or "Was There Really a Bibical Flood"? If you have, then you also know that those "scientific" programs support the evidence of the flood etc. as told in the Bible during the correct time frame.

    Do you believe in oxygen – air, as it were? You can't see it, but you know it's there. You believe it's there.

    God is the same way, I can't see him either but I know he's there. I believe He's there.

    LIke I said. You believe as you wish. Good luck to you. Bye.

    September 20, 2011 at 4:02 pm |
    • brett

      except you can do tests to detect oxygen, so that analogy doesn't really work, unless you can show evidence of prayer waves or something.

      September 20, 2011 at 7:15 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      I've said this before. The "history" channel is a cancer that blocks the flow of blood to its viewers' brains.
      By the way, how do you feel about their historical analyses of Jesus' life, which say that he was not the son of god and there were no miracles? Still believe in the "history" channel now?

      September 21, 2011 at 10:54 am |
  87. Leeanne

    Jim – haven't you ever seen those Discovery/History Channel programs with titles like "In Search of Noah's Ark" or "Was There Really a Bibical Flood"? If you have, then you also know that those "scientific" programs support the evidence of the flood etc. as told in the Bible during the correct time frame.

    Do you believe in oxygen – air, as it were? You can't see it, but you know it's there. You believe it's there.

    God is the same way, I can't see him either but I know he's there. I believe He's there.

    LIke I said. You believe as you wish. Good luck to you. Bye.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:56 pm |
    • Jim

      Leeanne – There is NO credible evidence of the flood or the Ark. These shows are generating controversy so people watch the show. Yes, I know there is oxygen because I would not be alive with out. We can observe/ "measure" oxygen. That is how we now it exists. It takes no leap of faith. Just like I can touch the computer screen in front me. I know it exists. God on the other hand. . . . If you want to believe, that is fine. But expect to be challenged when you or others make claims with no physical evidence to back it up.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
      • Leeanne

        As for me, I AM THE PHYSICAL EVIDENCE.

        God Bless. Time for me to go home.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        Yes Leanne, may god be less. Have a safe trip home.

        September 21, 2011 at 10:48 pm |
  88. Scooter De Vu Lenti

    Satan created the dinosaurs in his image and God wiped them out with a flood about 6 thousand years ago. It's in the Bible ya morons.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
    • Lizardite

      It would be hard to "wipe out" a Mosasaur or a Plesiosaur in a flood, since they were just fine in the water. Oh wait! Was it forty days of Acid Rain?

      September 20, 2011 at 4:09 pm |
      • Scooter De Vu Lenti

        A flood of HELLFIRE AND BRIMSTONE ya heathen. The Dinosaurs are all in hell with the dead babies, the suicide bombers and the hippies. You need to be reading the Bible more son.

        May the Love of GOD MOST HOLY burn you forever in hell if you doubt his infinite love and care.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:12 pm |
    • Judas Priest

      Where in the bible does it say that satan had a hand in the world's creation?
      It does not. So;
      Why do you give such credance to the enemy? Who are you to say that satan has the power of creation? Isn't that attributing god's divinity to god's own opponent? isn't that statement... idolatry?
      You are bearing false witness against the holy scripture, and are recognizing another, specifically satan, as a peer of god.

      September 21, 2011 at 11:03 am |
  89. Jim

    We all need to look to Ricky from the book of Trailer Park Boys for the answers. Turn to Season 3, episode 4 where he at one point he claims that it, “looks like a tropical earthquake blew through here”. We can only take this to mean that a large cyclonic earthquake with warm, windy rain killed all the dinosours. Ricky has spoken. All praise Ricky.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:53 pm |
  90. Al

    That, of course, was a large cloud of debris in space, not tera.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:49 pm |
  91. Al

    Neither of the impacts caused the extinction. A cloud of debris cut back on the amount of solar radiation and warmth, thus, causing the earth to cool until the solor system had passed beyond the cloud and we started to rewarm.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:47 pm |
  92. Chris m

    "Even dinosaur fossils were absent for millions of years, then all of the sudden, there they are....ALL of them"

    The first dinosaur fossils come from the Triassic. They're fossils of prosauropods, primitive theropods and primitive ornithopods. The dinosaurs in the late Jurassic are much different from that and the dinosaurs of the late creatous are very different from thier primitive ancestors who live 160 million years in the past at that point. There's no evidence that all dinosaurs lived at the same time. Sorry.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
  93. Arran Webb

    Dinosaur impressions in stones. It is possible with science to join the dots between just about anything. Eventually after lots of research (exhaustive) and testing (thorough) a world of scientists can find a test and an outcome that will prove most anything. Black holes being a good example. Black holes "exist" because the prevailing theory stopped working and the black hole was required to substantiate the theory – and then the scientists "found" black holes. Oh high Priest of Science bless us.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:36 pm |
    • Chris m

      "Dinosaur impressions in stones. It is possible with science to join the dots between just about anything"

      No actually real science makes specific testable predictions and tries to look for falsifications for those predictions.

      "Eventually after lots of research (exhaustive) and testing (thorough) a world of scientists can find a test and an outcome that will prove most anything."

      Sorry, i almost every idea that's subject to rigorous testing is modified because of evidence or discarded.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:42 pm |
      • Arran Webb

        Not true. All testing is subjective – the selection effect – it is impossible to eliminate the role of the observer and it is impossible to completely take the observer into consideration. Eventually a test can be devised to "prove" any hypothesis. Not to say the outcome of testing is not useful and relevant in a certain range – but it is not universally true it is simply more believable than some other idea – because we "proved" it.

        September 20, 2011 at 3:50 pm |
      • Jim

        Arran Webb – That is why replication is important, peer review, scientists coming up with alternative explanations, etc. No one scientist is going to come up with the "Facts". It takes years of data gathering, testing, robustness against alternative hypotheses, etc. That what frustrates the public so much. They want Facts, Answers when science mostly deals with probabilities and theories.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
  94. tom

    I don't have a problem with those that want to believe in God.
    It may be that such a belief can physiologically healthy.
    It's when people kill people in the name of God that I have sort of a problem with...

    September 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
    • Arran Webb

      They are not killing in the name of God they are killing in their own name and they appeal to the highest authority they can find to alleviate their moral conscience. If it were not God to whom they appealed it would something or someone else – like it has been in the past – people have been killed in the "name" of many things. The death penalty is enforced by the judicial system in the "name" of God because all those that enforce the death penalty appeal for mercy, truth and foreignness before they take another's life – even the legal system.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:44 pm |
      • fran glass

        "The death penalty is enforced by the judicial system in the "name" of God because all those that enforce the death penalty appeal for mercy, truth and foreignness before they take another's life – even the legal system."

        arran are you in any way.... crazy?

        September 20, 2011 at 4:44 pm |
      • Realist

        Agreed.. People do kill in the name of god. No, it is not about seeking justice for those outside the issue. It's about satisfying ones internal rage, revenge, (many times it has nothing to do with a particular execution, considering Troy Davis at the moment).

        Yes, people will manipulate to any expect to make them feel they are right. 'In God we trust', a good example of that. That in itself proves they are wrong and their conscious knows it too.

        September 22, 2011 at 7:49 am |
    • Uh...

      ...the subject of the article was asteroids.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:55 pm |
      • jroachman

        THANK YOU!!! The tangent bickering amongst all these comments got me wondering what article they were reading...

        September 20, 2011 at 5:27 pm |
      • what?

        Which rock killed the dinosaurs? – The kind you cook in a test tube with baking soda and-oop, my mistake.

        September 20, 2011 at 11:35 pm |
      • derptard

        What rock killed god?

        September 21, 2011 at 12:29 am |
      • sunnye

        Ha, ha... 🙂

        September 21, 2011 at 3:18 pm |
      • Georgia Hull

        I wonder of those religious comments are put there by CNN, because they were left in the first position for a long time. Also why this article now when there are several space rocks very near our planet now. To scare us or warn us.

        September 22, 2011 at 10:04 am |
    • Dan, TX

      I just don't get why we have to talk about religion and God when the topic is astronomy and hypotheses concerning the demise of the dinosaurs. There is another blog for that.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:06 pm |
      • Zeynep

        Thank you Dan! I can't believe it either – also somehow we manage to make every subject about politics too. Why do we have to be so divided? We need science to improve ourselves, we must not mix science with religion ever! Can someone help me understand where the science in saying 'God created ___' is?

        September 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
      • joeschlag

        It's because we have politicians like Michele Bachmann, Sarah Palin and Rick Perry who say there is no such thing as 65 million years ago, speak nothing of the 4.5 billion years the scientists say this planet has been here. Bachmann says that earth is only 6,000 years old and she has seen dinosaur fossil footprints with human footprints right alongside! A slight discrepancy, 6,000 or 4.5 billion. I wonder who is right?

        September 21, 2011 at 2:52 am |
    • kevin

      omg we're talking about dinosaurs and asteroids and some morons in here are talking about God and people killing in the name of God. Go to work or go do something with your life than being critical about topics that aren't even the topic of discussion. Seriously? Are you that much of a loser than you have to oft topic here?

      September 20, 2011 at 8:35 pm |
  95. meemee

    Oil shale killed the dinosaurs, don't you know?

    September 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • bailoutsos

      Maybe the Christians' God got bored with dinosaurs and cupped his hands tightly around earth to suffocate them?

      September 20, 2011 at 4:22 pm |
      • ajk68

        Angry are you. Turned to the dark side must.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:27 pm |
      • Dave H

        LOL. Couldn't have happened. Earth is only 6,000 years old, silly. These alleged 'dinosaurs' never actually existed. The fossils were put here to test your faith. I guess you fail. sorry

        September 20, 2011 at 4:34 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        @ Dave H,

        Of course you're being funny, right? 'Cause if you're not... that's a pretty deceitfull god you worship...

        September 20, 2011 at 5:57 pm |
      • Franky P.

        @Dave H... I also failed when the good lawd put a crack pipe and $20 hooker in front of me... LOL That's too funny, this guy is out of his mind. "fossils were put here to test your faith", ROFL...

        September 21, 2011 at 11:13 am |
      • holy guac

        I may be mistaken, but I think Dave H was being facetious. I don't know, it's a close call. Could be serious, could be humorous sarcasm.....

        September 25, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
      • God

        Keep laughin', Chucklenuts.

        October 19, 2011 at 9:54 am |
  96. Leeanne

    That's just it. Scientists are forever trying to prove the Bible wrong when in fact, they're actually continuing to prove that it's accurate (i.e. great flood, remains of ark). I say to each his own. Live and let live. You believe what you want and I shall do the same.

    September 20, 2011 at 3:32 pm |
    • Jim

      Oh Leeanne – it is just too easy. I am almost afraid to ask, but are you suggesting that there is scientific evidence of the Ark or a global flood that corresponds to the timeline in the Bible?

      September 20, 2011 at 3:37 pm |
      • Lucyfur

        I found Jesus' shoes, does that count? They were under a bridge in Brooklyn, said Jesus right on the side of them.

        September 20, 2011 at 3:40 pm |
      • Buckhippo

        I'm just amazed how people like Leeanne can actually live in this world when all they care about is getting into a mythical afterlife because some vengeful god told them so. Personally, I'd rather believe in Santa Claus. At least he won't send me to heII for being bad!

        September 20, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
      • Leeanne

        Jim – for Ha-Ha's check this http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/09/070907150931.htm

        September 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
      • Nah

        Sorry to disappoint you but there are evidence of a flood. Not just from flood stories (e.g., Gilgamesh) but evidence in the Middle East.

        Don't let your own dogmatic atheism blind you to the fact that the bible has actual facts in it. And remember this as well: facts prove themselves and nothing else. There being a flood does not prove a man named Jesus was divine.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:14 pm |
      • fran glass

        well i guess that link settles it, huh leanne?

        September 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
      • Nah

        Is* evidence.

        And: Leanne is a troll. And you just got trolled.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:16 pm |
      • izzie

        lol thats tru... thats my motto in life

        September 20, 2011 at 4:20 pm |
      • Nick

        The flood covered only the part of the world where the moron characters in the Bible lived, which to them was the whole world. Obviously the rest of Earth was doing just fine.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:36 pm |
      • sh

        You folks work awfully hard to convince yourselves of your beliefs. Everyone believes in something. Oh, I forgot, you thought police won't allow Leanne to believe in a god. Sorry, my bad. Anyway, science has proven all of our big questions.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:59 pm |
      • Guy

        Faith is "Believing without seeing" You either have it or you don't. I do. Why would you want Jesus to come down and
        shake your hand before you believe. Then that would not be "Faith"

        September 20, 2011 at 5:31 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        To all you biblical leteralists out there:

        Genesis 7: 20 Fifteen cubits upward did the waters prevail; and the mountains were covered.

        So mountains were only 7.5 meters (approx) tall 6000 years ago... but nobody thought to record the sudden upshoot in hight? Please, you guys make us laugh.

        September 20, 2011 at 6:11 pm |
      • Noxious.Sunshine

        I found Jesus.. He got deported to Mexico & is a major pot head.

        September 22, 2011 at 9:43 am |
    • Victor

      Willful ignorance is not the endeavor of science, Leanne.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:39 pm |
    • Chris m

      "that's just it. Scientists are forever trying to prove the Bible wrong"

      No, they aren't trying to "prove the bible wrong" they're just studying to observable world. It's not my fault that's it's billions of years old, that the geology of the earth shows orderly strata that falsify a global flood and that all creatures on the earth show signs of common ancestor. Reality is at war with your religious dogma.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:48 pm |
      • Judas Priest

        Yes it is your fault, fess up! 😛

        September 20, 2011 at 6:32 pm |
    • Wayne

      Leeane, someone has lied to you. God or no God there never was a world wide flood and no ark has been found.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
      • Zeynep

        Maybe the ark was actually a DNA bank! "They knew" there was going to be a catastrophe and collected DNA samples of all creatures on earth to reseed it at a later time… Maybe all the religious books are correct to an extend and that we were seeded by non-human intelligent beings in addition to the natural evolution! :))) Does that make everyone happy and agree?

        September 20, 2011 at 8:08 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        @ Zeynep,

        No, because you offer no proof to support your claim. Where (who) is this extraterrestrial intelligent life? How did Noah collect DNA samples without contaminating the specimens from all over the world? (antarctic, Australia, North and South America, to name his biggest challenges)

        September 24, 2011 at 11:22 am |
      • Bob

        Why do you people all give a damn what people believe. That is the problem in this country. Everyone has their nose in everyone else's business. Argue away, there is a God, there is not a God. Here is my problem, every last one of you pushes your belief system on the next person. You are all hypocrites.

        September 25, 2011 at 8:52 pm |
    • Josh

      No remains of the arch were ever found. Discovery shows talking about the flood and then showing really old peices of wood on mountain tops and then saying "what if" is not the same thing. There IS scientific evidence of floods but not floods as told in the bible. Simply large flooding in the areas of the old world. Many times. No single mass flood that corresponds to the bible time line and scope was ever pin pointed by science.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:54 pm |
      • Roz

        The evil scientists have proven that the earth doesn't have enough water to account for all the water that it would take to flood the earth entirely. Great mountain ranges would be leveled and lost for hundreds of thousands of years (not the 6,000 year timeline of fundies). It would have left a trail of devastation in the Earth's strata, it would have destroyed 90% of it's vegetation, killed most, if not all of sea creatures by changing the bacterial and chemical components in the oceans, and the increased tonnage of the added water which would have crushed a great many more. It would have left trillions of rotting life forms, human, animal and plants, that researchers would have easily discovered and studied. Yet, depictions have always shown Noah and his family coming out of the ark and into a world still covered with big trees and flowering plants, none the worse for wear. Wrong. That much water would have rotted, drowned and crushed almost every plant in the world.

        September 20, 2011 at 6:13 pm |
    • live and let live indeed

      "That's just it."

      You mad bro?

      September 20, 2011 at 3:55 pm |
      • BurtStare

        not mad, just Jelly.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
    • Buckhippo

      Wow, defensive much Leeanne?

      September 20, 2011 at 3:57 pm |
      • fran glass

        being married to the lord makes people protective.

        September 20, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
    • joe dokes

      Did I hear you right? Did you actually say "remains of the ark"? Are you serious? Every single ark "artifact" discovery has been debunked. Every one. Religion is not science, Leeanne. If you want to pretend it is, well, that's your loss.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:59 pm |
      • NoMoreLabels

        Oh...but remember the 'Ark-eologists' found proof of the Ark...lol

        September 20, 2011 at 4:23 pm |
    • William Gates

      Don't be a douche.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:00 pm |
    • dj

      Hasn't anyone ever heard of Inspired By or Based Upon true events. You know, a storyline created around actual events. This is what the Bible is. Science doesn't claim certain events in the Bible are false, it is just the stories in between these events that are fabricated.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:01 pm |
      • fran glass

        ohhh i get it. Like Lifetime movies, right?

        September 20, 2011 at 4:04 pm |
      • fimeilleur

        Well then if it isn't ALL true, how are we to know what is REALLY true and what is METAPHORICALLY true? If the 1st book of the bible is a lie... what makes anyone think the rest of it... Isn't.

        September 20, 2011 at 6:15 pm |
    • isis

      Leeanne...science is science and religion (& the Bible) should have NOTHING to do with it. I believe in God (I'm spiritual, but definitely NOT religious), but I fully believe in science & common sense – thank God we're past the Inquisition & every person or scientist isn't a heretic (which was based on opinions by a bunch of arrogant men who ran the world). I do believe that eventually science will contradict the Bible – the Bible was written by men, who are not always right, and if a scientific theory can be proven, then God will always be happy about the truth coming out.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:11 pm |
    • Z

      Leanne... There are a few holes in the biblical theory. 65 Million years goes back a bit further than anything mentioned in the bible... Scientists have proven by digging into specific layers of the earth that this massive impact happend. I will believe in facts and you can believe in fairy tales... Enjoy living in neverland!!!

      September 20, 2011 at 4:19 pm |
      • sh

        Hey valedictorian, not all Christians believe in an "new earth". Fine, move on. And then read a book.

        September 20, 2011 at 5:01 pm |
    • Dave836

      I'm sorry Leeanne, but only the dumbest Christians believe the Old Testament is talking about actual events. Me, and every other Christian I know agree that the Old Testament is full of symbolism (e.g. – When the Old Testament talks about Adam and Eve, it's probably talking about the first people to believe in God – not the first people alive. Or, they can stand for a group of people instead of just two individuals).

      You don't think there was actually a talking snake in real life, do you?

      September 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
      • Guy

        Dave836 – I believe all that, yes even the talking snake. God created everything, don't you think we could create a talking snake or world floods or bringing people back to life. It's "Faith"

        September 20, 2011 at 5:45 pm |
      • ColoradoDad

        Faith and belief are one thing and science is another. Its a free country, believe what you want. That being said... I find it funny and a bit hypocritical when religionists expecially new age ones claim "The bible is symbolism not real" or they pick and choose which of the stories are symbolic and which aren't. I can respect a person if they state their beliefs and stick to them without compromise. Its when I hear all these claims that the bible is the word of god written through men, oh yeah, but the part that says men can stone their women, or any other ridiculous "rule", is only symbolism and they don't follow them. Its a big cop-out, you guys are cherry picking for your own bible, what to follow and obey. hypocrites!! I will stick to science, at least I have no choice, gravity is gravity whether I believe in it or not.

        September 20, 2011 at 6:30 pm |
      • dave836

        Actually Colorado, most people believe that the old testament is symbolic while the new testament is fact. It's not really that much of a pick-and-choose(it is a little I guess) thing seeing that we don't pick certain things from the old testament to choose as fact – we just separate the old and new testament.

        But ya, you are right. People are entitled to believe whatever they want to believe. I have absolutely no problem with that and I probably shouldn't have started my last comment with "Only the dumbest Christians.." because that wasn't right...

        And IDK where you got the stoning women part because the new testament showed Jesus saving a woman from being stoned. Maybe I missed something though. I haven't read through the Bible in a long long time 🙂

        September 21, 2011 at 11:37 pm |
    • Ryan Laughs at You!

      I also found Christ's beard... not quite as epic as Chuck Norris' beard, but it proves that god scientifically exists!

      September 20, 2011 at 4:40 pm |
      • Judas Priest

        Yes, but Jesus's epic beard conceals not a fist, but another cheek.

        September 20, 2011 at 6:35 pm |
    • Fred Frederson

      Some people are able to live lives of ignorance without incident because they themselves are of almost no significance to anything. There's no shame in it. It's highly possible that even the giant who ends up standing on the shoulders of the giantest giant won't see far enough to change the ultimate fate of our reality.

      September 20, 2011 at 4:42 pm |
    • Tammie McClure

      Ever read the story of Gilgamesh? There was a great flood in it too...wonder where the folks who wrote the Bible got the idea from then since the story of Gilgamesh predates the Bible. So if you want to get into the which came first battle...its already been won.

      September 20, 2011 at 5:52 pm |
    • Shane

      The great flood has been disproven time and time again.

      And while the Ark's design was more or less seaworthy since it didn't need a way of steering, its been proven that there is no way that all of the animals could have possibly been cared for. And it doesn't tell how animals on vastly different continents got back there after the receeding.

      September 20, 2011 at 6:22 pm |
  97. Andrew

    Crack rock kills!

    September 20, 2011 at 3:30 pm |
  98. Sal

    Well maybe the beasts just died out from natural causes. Species go extinct all the time naturally. Maybe nothing at all had to do with the dinosaurs demise! 

    September 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
    • Lucyfur

      Smoking killed the dinosaurs

      September 20, 2011 at 3:31 pm |
      • fran glass

        and obesity.

        September 20, 2011 at 3:34 pm |
    • Jim

      My guess is that dinosaures died of heart disease or an epidemic of severe constipation. I mean all they did was eat meat. They probably consumed no vegetables at all.

      September 20, 2011 at 3:33 pm |
      • fran glass

        exactly. ruffage is important people!

        September 20, 2011 at 3:35 pm |
  99. I dunit now


    I'll be happy to take you to the heavens so that you can get a closer view. Just hop on my rocket...

    September 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
  100. To those who know everything

    Shut the frontdoor!! beach!

    September 20, 2011 at 3:27 pm |
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