Discovery of oldest known Mayan calendar
Nestled in the deep trenches of the Guatemalan rain forest, at the largest-known Classic Mayan site, Xultún, scientists have uncovered the remnants of what appears to be the earliest known Mayan calendar and murals.
Contrary to popular myth, Mayan experts have known for a long time that this calendar is not a countdown to the end of the world on December 2012, the study researchers said in a press conference to reporters.
The Mayan used a series of cycles to track time in which there were 13 baktuns each representing a 400-year chunk.
Researchers of the study say rumors surrounding a projected apocalypse on December 21, 2012, is a misconception. It is just the benchmark when a cycle of 13 baktuns will be complete and a new cycle begins.
“There was a lot more to the Mayan calendar than just 13 baktuns," said archaeologist David Stuart of the University of Texas, who worked to decipher the hieroglyphics found on the walls of a house, dating back to the early part of the 9th century (813 A.D.-814 A.D.).
"The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," added Stuart.
Archeologists working in the region stumbled upon these ruins back in 2010, while exploring the site of Xultún. They say the artifacts were well preserved in a never before seen house-like structure, which appears to be a workspace for Mayan scribes.
“It was actually my student, Max Chamberlain, who discovered to the Mayan house, while poking around a looters’ trench,” said William Saturno, lead author and archeologist at Boston University.
Due to the fluctuations in the wet and dry climates of the tropical regions in the rain forest, scientists did not expect these artworks to preserve well. At first glance, Saturno and his research team did not think their findings would amount to anything.
“Initially, when we went to verify this as a Mayan painting, all we could see at the time was a single red line on a really moldy, dilapidated piece of stucco that had been uncovered by looters about 30 years earlier," said Saturno.
“In order to gain a better understanding of the dimensions of the house, I began excavating the looters’ trench to the back wall, I was shocked to find a beautifully preserved image of a Mayan king on his throne, with a great blue feathered head dress streaming off his head,” added Saturno.
Preserved paintings were found on the ceiling and on three of the four walls, covering the west and north walls of a small 6.6-foot-by-6 foot room, with a vaulted roof. On the east wall, someone had painted a series of small, complex hieroglyphics. The newly discovered calendar, features bars and dots recording lunar cycles in six-month chunks of time. The markings tipped the researchers off, suggesting that on top of the wall murals was actually a calendar.
“All around us were paintings, we saw many life-size human figures painted in black and red hieroglyphs,” said Saturno.
Despite the remarkable findings, this team of researchers say they have only scratched the surface.
“We have 99.9 % of Xultún left to explore,” said David Stuart.
“Its actual boundaries have yet to determined and we are going to be working on it for many decades to come,” said Stuart.
The findings, supported by the National Geographic Society, are set to be published in a forthcoming article in the journal Science on Friday.
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Mayan experts: No apocalypse coming
That's great news! It means Mitt will lose in November.
you meant obummer
Aw man. Really, guys?
No, he is right it's Mittens.
Well duh. If they didn't see the Spanish coming, how could they possibly predict the end of the world. Also, magic isn't real.
Not real for you.
1. The Mayans collapsed before the Spanish arrived.
2. You are thinking of either the Incans or the Aztecs, depending on whether or not you mean modern day mexico or central/ South America.
3. The Mayan calendar was not made using magic – though I get that you probably mean the whole "predicting the end" thing.
4. This particular end of the world "prediction" will be the 4th of my lifetime that I remember. I am sure there have been countless others.
5. Did we REALLY need a Mayan expert to tell us this?
spanish came after the mayans were gone for thousands of years ....your thinking of aztecs...oh and cosmology... isnt magic...you should really think before you speak
What if after these early calendars where written by the Mayans they, latter on, discovered the truth? Latter on as they advanced, they discovered that the world was going to end in December 2012.
But do note, that our calendar and their calendar is off by 3 years. So it could really happen on December 2015.
Actually scientists argue the time period already lapsed...our calender is AHEAD 3 years.
If our calendar is AHEAD, then it is now 2009 by the Mayan calendar. 2012, by the Mayans, will be in 3 years from now.
Damn!!! There goes partying like there's no tomorrow, cause there be one....................
Don't let tomorrow crash your party. Party it up anyways and deal with the hangover tomorrow.
I took a class at the University of Texas at Austin on the Mayans lectured by David Stuart! He really knows his stuff. Great class.
Meh, let people have their fun. Folks have been waiting for another Y2K to come along so they can make a few bucks, and then once nothing happens they'll start looking for the next panic (probably that asteroid some think might hit us in 25 years). The whole Nibiru "rogue planet" thing didn't catch on, so they needed something else. They'll probably find some "lost" Nostradamus prophecy to work on next, or another Camping will come along with his "real" dates for doomsday. The scary part is hearing of people abandoning their possessions, giving away their pets or, worse, considering something insane like suicide over this stuff.
Of course nothing is going to happen...only fear mongers and libs would have you think something is going to happen...nobody knows and only God knows so get over it...
Much as cons would like to believe it, most libs think this is B.S. too.
Fear mongering is god's number one way of mind control. Watch out.
Amazingly its also the republiCONS way of mind control as well. Keep watching that faux news.
Being a liberal is not an insult. Jesus was a liberal, don't forget. I'm a liberal and I also believe that only God knows when the world will end. So stop putting people in neat little categories because you're too lazy to open your mind and learn that not everyone is the same.
But everyone is the same in his tiny little messed up world..they're all just like him, that's why he likes them.
I don't believe that "God" knows, I think he is leaving it up to us.
hey ug, how many liberal pastors have declared a date for the end of the world compared to conservative pastors? who would you be willing to bet has the most?
Most of the liberals I know are well-educated and don't fear ancient calendars or belive in fairy tales.
Another moron that thinks the word 'liberal' means anyone they don't like.
This is not about nothing ending, this is about something that will happen in terms of space and time. Mayan's were notorius fofor being very accurate in calculating positioning of the stars. If I am not wrong in The Universe everything happens in cylces. What goes around comes around. Mayan's also new that Earth was not part o the Milkey Way Galaxy before Nasa did. We still are part of a smaller dwarf Sagitarius galaxy. But we are about to cross and be part of the Milkey Way now. Atoms will transform into photons.
"Atoms will transform into photons."
You almost sense until that.
Sorry, but you're wrong. If that were the case we would be orbiting the Milky Way on the same plane as the rest of the Sagittarius Dwarf Elliptical Galaxy. We are not. We are orbiting the center of the Milky Way on the same plane as the rest of the Milky way. Nice try though. Pseudo science, you lose again.
You need to do your research and not just learn what you have been told. Imagination is more important than knowledge. Albert Einstein US (German-born) physicist (1879 – 1955).
Good call, let me do some quick research...yup, I'm still right. Maybe you just let your imagination run a little to wild huh?
I guess you are right, but in that case you must also agree that they said that about Galileo, Newton, Jules Verne, Leonardo Da Vinci, The Wright Brothers.
My point is that some people think inside the box and some I guess let their imagination run a little wild.
You have got to be kidding me that you believe all this stuff?????
Did you never open up an Astronomy book when you were in school??? Please, please take an Astronomy (NOT Astrology) course at your local adult school or community college. I can't believe that you believe this utter middle ages garbage for scientific fact!!
BTW: Does your computer NOT have a spell checker??
The Mayans also thought a jaguar was eating the sun. They sure didn't foresee the Conquistadors, did they?
The Mayans knew the center of our solar system was the sun and not the earth. The conquistadores probably got drunk and lost at sea and were lucky that land found them.
Just want to clarify that the center of our system is a super massive black hole not the sun.
Though SPQR has spouted some pretty ridiculous things in some of his other posts, he is indeed correct in saying that the center of our SOLAR system is the sun.
The Romans knew that too.
Though PF has spouted some pretty ridiculous things in some of his other posts, he is indeed correct in saying that he agress with SPQR that the center of our SOLAR system is the sun.
And the Mayan King looks like a flavor flav ancestor.
No worries mates. We will all have our own personal rapture sooner or later.
Secular amen to you, sir.
I've been wondering for a while what kind of idiot you have to be to think of a calendar running out as the end of the world. Every time my calendar runs out, every single freaking December, I go to the bookstore and buy a new one. Usually with puppies. Sometimes with ponies. Because I need more puppies and ponies in my life.
I prefer castles and old churches, myself. Also, I usually wait until the 2nd week of January to buy one. That way I know it will still be useful and by then it is also 50% off.
Mine has dogs in yoga poses
Wild life for me now, when I was young Chi-chi's
I cannot believe that people who are intelligent believe in this nonsense. Ah! But maybe they are really not intelligent after all!
Like they said on South Park: "at least 25% of the population is retarded".
hahaha! Truth!
As someone quoting "South Park", let me guess which part you belong to
true...but there is just so many of them that their actions speak for themselves. Southpark is a good example of it. Just saying'..
How much (tax payers) money did we spent on the space station ? And now NASA has no way of going up there ? This doesn't make sense unless I missed some info.
"How much (tax payers) money did we spent on the space station ? " Well, now we are sorry for shooting rockets at God's backside and breaking the windows in Heaven, and we will leave space travel and armed moonbases to the Russians and Chinese. So we can beg them for rides if we are brave enough to go into scary space again. We put a flag on the moon, then gave the moon away.
and it wasnt 2010 it was 2011 and it was in a temple on a brick and the date was december 21,2012 the 9 gods will return to earth as on the calender. so cnn stop brainwashing everybody and get ur facts strait before u post an artical. and when they found the brick it was on the inner facing side so nobody could see it.
How about you run spell check before you post something?
His Church doesn't believe in using proper English. They claim it is too presumptuous to show any learning as their God wants them ignorant, I mean innocent.
I guess Hillman has been listening to too many George STRAIT's song, hence he mispelled STRAIGHT...LOL.
do what now hill?
"it was in a temple on a brick and the date was december 21,2012" None of that is true. The calendars are rocks the size of refrigerators, standing in a line. The last one ends with 2012. I'm sure it's very believable if you are an ancient Mayan; otherwise LOL.
Space weather forecasters at NOAA estimate a 75% chance of M-class solar flares and a 20% chance of X-flares during the next 24 hours from the large sunspot AR 1476. This sunspot is directly facing our planet, so if a flare does occur its effects on the space weather environment are likely to pass our way. NOAA’s Space Weather Prediction Center said today (May 11, 2012):
Link or this is bogus.
http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html
h t t p :// w w w . s w p c . n o a a . g o v / a l e r t s / k – i n d e x . h t m l
In any event, I'm going to put on extra sunscreen, just in case!
"The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," added Stuart." WHAT UNIVERSE is this idiot from? There won't even be any protons left after octilliions of years. Or a universe, for that matter...
Dunno what universe you live in, but in this one, there's this whole concept of the law of preservation of matter and energy... unless you believe every shred of matter in this universe is going to be converted to energy sometime in the distant future, it'll still be around. Maybe not look the same, but it'll be here.
The Andromeda galaxy is going to crash into the Milky Way galaxy (ours) in 2.5 billion years, and even if it misses us, the sun is going to become a red giant in 4 billion years. Either of those should pretty well wipe out the Mayan calendar WAY before a trillion years!
I want to see the biggest headline on the December 22nd issue of the New York Times that reads: "THE WORLD SURVIVES THE APOCALYPSE..." and at the bottom of the article: "Turn To A5"
Then you turn to A5 and the headline is: "...Harold Camping Doesn't"
*Rimshot* LOL ;D
In other words, some calendar maker got his calendar out 5200 years and decided that was enough for the time being and he would begin a new calendar in 4800 years (giving him a nice 400 years to finish the job). Or, he got it out 5200 years and decided that some other schmuck could worry about continuing it in about 5200 years and he was going on vacation.
I think you've discovered the downfall of Mayan civilization, as all the scribes went out of business after they finished this calendar.
Thanks, Mayan people. Now I can going on with my life which I put it on hold until you assure me that we are not going to be extinguished. You are very wise people and I have a lot of respect for you guys. Now, talking about something more practical, can you give the winning numbers of the next lottery? Thanks in advance.
Crap. Now I have to buy Christmas presents.
I know right – i spent all year draining my bank account too!!
Mayans were humans. Humans have no clue when and how the world will end.
ok then how did they even know to come up with the year 2012 these people lived in the jungles uneducated rolled around in the mud and all of a sudden there building pyramids it jus dosnt happen with out sum sort of knowledge from where who knows so stop beleiving the anti mayan calender and mis information the government and cnn is putting out there
You need a reality check. As a Mayan scholar, as you no doubt are; I'm sure you have seen these ruins first hand and can decipher their complex glyph-based language? Then again, I'm sure you understand there are 3 calendars that work in unison and the best guess – the real scholars have – is the long count ends.... But that's ok...keep reading the "hokie" stuff on the Internet and accept it as fact. I'll gladly sell you some "Mayan Survival Beads" if I don't sell out!
I suggest you do some reading about the Mayan people and the similarities between them and the Egyptians (I suppose you believe they were just "rolling around in the sand in the desert" and then "just started building pyramids" as well?). Maybe you'll learn a thing or two about how wrong-headed your Western European view of science and technology outside of the white man's world.
I'm sure if the Mayans are here today, they would probably say the same thing about us, you know, uneducated. How do we know that they were uneducated? I'm sure their education was different than ours, for the simple fact that we're living in a different time. We shouldn't judge on something we have no idea of, because we weren't there. As for whatever happened to the Mayans, my humble theory is that they're probably died out, due to diseases, starvation, war, or due to assimilaton into another culture, you know, intermarriages, etc, etc.
We know exactly when. It will be the third continuous winter after Hel refuses to release Baldur. Fenris will break his bonds and the Jormungardr will rise from the oceans. Odin will be eaten by Fenris, who will be slain by Vidar. Thor and Jormungardr will slay each other, as will Loki and Heimdall. Surtr will raze the world by fire, but some humans will survive, and Baldur will return to rule over the 9 worlds. At least that is how Ragnarok is described in Norse Myth. It is either that or Kalki will appear, wipe out the wicked and end the Kali Yuga we currently live in. Take your pick.
Joe, you might wants to take a walk or something, you know, take a break from fantasy world. It will do you good.
"It is either that or Kalki will appear, wipe out the wicked and end the Kali Yuga we currently live in."
I'm betting on Cthulhu to rise. Why settle for a lesser evil?
They didn't predict conquistadors, which was the end of their world.
Gee... What will those guy's on those tv shows talk about now (you know the guy with the wild hair) probably UFO's
Don't go back pedalling now, Maya! No wheel, no mortar and now a bunk end-of-worl prediction? What, exactly were the Mayans doing on vacation in Mexico for all those years?
the "prediction" wasn't from the Mayans, it was from recent, modern nutballs. just sayin.
old news – literally
I really thought i was going to get a great deal on my mortgage.
Who knows if the calendar has been properly deciphered?
No Dick Clark, no New Years Eve, apocalypse eminent.
RUN TO THE HILLS !!
RUN FOR YOUR LIFE !!
the mayans already took out dick clark –
....nice.
...and if you already live in the hills...run to bigger ones.
How convenient. Just in time to "calm" people who are preparing for a climatic and/or magnetic shift. My take on this is it's a smoke screen. Continue preparations and keep a close eye on the comings and goings of the wealthy and famous. If there is an inbound event, then the wealthy will hear of it first and move on it. I am not suggesting that this scroll is a fake. I am suggesting that we don't let the press distract us from monitoring our government and everything else that we can see. stay focused and stay awake.
Must be a horrible life to continually live in fear.
Fear isn't the same thing as awareness.
I also ackowledge that not every "radical" idea bears truth.
Are you familiar with the old saying "No one expects the spanish inquisition". Being awake and aware of the nature of the situation is not being fearful. It's called being smart. But I don't mind you having your opinion. It means one less useless person to have to protect or feed. works for both of us. You keep your fantasy and I have one less idiot to worry about.
LOL, bonus points for conflating Monty Python with an "old saying".
You opened up the whole six pack of crazy for that one.
Did we just become best friends? YUP!
Forgot to take the pill today eh?
are you kidding, or are you really, really this stupid?
I hear they sell tinfoil in bulk at Costco!
Dude,
Get a reality check and look for the nearest therapist.
Sounds like you're the ones who are scared and looking for this lollipop to suck. Watch the rich, they have advanced knowledge. Keep your eyes open and be calm. Remember, the tv is there to keep you misinformed and off balance. slow to react. Don't worry so much about my mind. You're the slave...poor schlub.
Who are "they?" Why would they notify the rich? If the world is ending money wouldn't make a difference, you can't take it with you...
Cue 'Twilight Zone' theme song ......
My preparation for the end of civilization as we know it is to simply rape and pillage all you "preppers". It's gonna be a fun apocalypse!!!
If I win the lottery on Dec 20, you can bet the world will end the 21st.
Exactly ! LOL
Oh no! This is not good! If CNN says the world is not ending it truly must be ending!
Religion is Earth's cancer.
'grats on the pointless, off-topic comment of the day!
Actually, I think humans are...
Oh gee, thank God. I was so concerned that a bunch of natives from 16th century could predict the world. Here's a newflash, if they were so good at predicting things, they would have predicted the spanish kicking their *sses and making them extinct. Anyone who has any faith in any of this junk is as dumb as the rocks they painted.
ah, ignorance is bliss, aint it?
the mayans wouldnt have predicted the spanish coming in and kicking their butts and made them extinct because that is not what happend..... have you ever read a history book? the mayans became extinct due to drought and no food.... not spainards....
Actually, they are not even extinct. Their great civilization lost its power, but the people lived on and are still in the area today. And they even still speak Mayan.
Actually, Mayan civilization ended a really, really long time before the Spanish arrived. The Spanish kicked the Aztec's butt, not the Mayans. Probably disease kicked the Mayan's butt.
Sorry, I meant my reply to John, not to Woooo
Never mind the Mayans for now, but what do think of the new coach, WooPig Sooie?
LOL John WOOO
Yes, the Maya were fine until the peaceful and loving christians came to plunder, kill, loot, and rape their way through the Americas.
Whew!!!!! That was close. I guess I'll pay all my bills now.
DARN IT, I just swept out my Y2K bunker last week to get ready. Now what am I going to do with all of this toilet paper.
Dress up like a mummy.
T.P. the experts' homes...duh 🙂
Now religion is becoming the subject..
When will everyone realize that it doesn't matter what religion we are..we are all one, all connected, all manifesting the ever-expanding universe, and we all believe in the *generally* same traditional values (regardless of what right and wrong is). Religion can suck it..even if you are an atheist, you still abide by some sort of system. Not a belief in a deity, or our creation, or even our end. I think we can all agree that fighing over who's more right or wrong is stupid. Nearly all religions believe in:
(1) Something greater than themselves i.e. Jesus Christ, Shiva, Buddha, Flying Spaghetti Monster
(2) "Punishment" for something "wrong" i.e. Hell, Karma<–my belief, getting your hand cut off for stealing
(3) Making yourself a better person
(4) Death i.e. reincarnation/rebirth, nothing happens or you just die, heaven, 70 virgins
With that being said, I am Spiritual not religious. I never dismiss another person's ideas because it's just a translation of what we all basically believe in.
One thing I would like to stress (you can agree or not) is that we all come from ONE energy source. By this, I mean that we are all connected to each other; my self does not end at my fingertips. It might seem outlandish but if you really think about it, there is nothing separating you between you and a cheetah somewhere in Africa. Distance? What is distance? Doesn't really mean anything except for something our mind is only aware about because of the vessels it is contained in (our bodies).
Something like this.
We're certainly all connected in various ways. I don't buy into the "energy fields," but we do think about one another, comment on each others' comments (-: and interact on many levels through our friends, communities, political system, economy, and so on. Getting along today is even more important than it was 100 years ago because of this. Too bad that religion, more often than not, gets in the way of this instead of facilitating it.
We may have different views but I'm glad we can both agree we're tired of the **** measuring contests concerning religion 🙂
Yeah, the "my god's bigger than yours" contests have gotten old over the last couple of millennia.
OMG, Linny. I've finally found someone who have the same belief as I do. I hated the narrow minded fools that thinks their religion is better and only one true religion. As a matter of fact, I had just had a conversation, uh, more like a debate with one person, who is a Baptist, and he believes there is only one way to the Father. He said there is no such thing as spiritual. Either I am a religious person or I am not. I told him I respect every persons' beliefs. I asked him where does he think about billion other people who doesn't have the same belief as his, go, after their death? He said not to heaven, so I told him belief like his is what causing wars and other conflicts around the world. I told him If he thinks those people who doesn't have the same belief as his , wherever their souls go after death, they sure aren't going to be lonely.
I guess if I were to put myself in any denomination, I would nicely fit in the Univeralist Church. Well, I guess he looked it up, because when I saw him after that, he was much more humble in his opinions. So, if the Mayans believe that the world will end, so be it. If it doesn't happen, oh, well, there are bills that needs to be paid & children that are need to be fed, and life goes on...
Hmm, well if you're Jewish, you don't believe in a soul or an afterlife, so you don't care what Mr. Baptist thinks will happen to you when you die. My belief? Worm food; fertilizer; (okay, fish food if I'm buried at sea).
"It is just the benchmark when a cycle of 13 baktuns will be complete and a new cycle begins."
Cycle complete...new cycle begins. WHAT is the next cycle??
http://zeroiv20.deviantart.com/art/13-Baktun-cycle-wave-harmonic-101979483
Newsflash to the christian religious apocolypse nutjobs: The Mayan calender ISN'T part of your crazy religion. Lol
Does anybody really know what's going to happen tomoorw anyway? We'll wait and see
Last time I checked the Christians weren't the ones going crazy about this. As a matter of fact I have yet to hear of a church even taking this thing into consideration. So please show us your credible sources to back your dumb comment.
Well there was that Harold Camping guy last year who drove around predicting the Rapture in 2011. Had a big 2012 in a circle with an X through it on his vehicles.
lol @ your pathetic attempt to generalize Christians. Leave it up to an arrogant atheist to bring religion into this. Funny thing is I go to church and not one single time was this mentioned as something that will actually occur...weird.
Religious bigotry is not funny, nor clever.
I agree! Here in America we boast of freedom for all, but I don't know that bigotry is part of that equation. Even if we have freedom of speech, that doesn't mean we have to hurt people/religious groups with our words. Doesn't that count as a form of abuse of power (in this case freedom). If freedom is our power, then let's not abuse it. It is meant to be for all.
that old calendar was not correct, that is why they discarded it
What a relief. I was really worried about the world ending this year. At least the world is still flat.
Can't we enact a law that says that anyone that believed the world was going to end can no longer vote??
Dont say that. Dont you ever say that. The world better end on Dec 21st 2012 or there will be hell to pay.
It better end!!! I borrowed $350,000 from the bank and have been having a blast. I don't plan on paying back a single penny of it. I am on the run right now travelling and having a good time so they can't find me. Ha Ha on them.
Lol
Thanks for the idea...........
I would have believed that back when banks actually gave out loans ;o)
Bummer, I was counting on it to be able to retire December 20!
why in the world would anyone believe this dumb malayn calander instead of the bible the bible is the word of our creator god and considering god created all he surely knows all and yes the end times of this world as we know it is coming we just dont know when god will return like a thief in the night when no one is expecting him so thats why everyone needs to be prepared now by seeking hisslvation and his grace,all you have to do is ask
Every thing about what the Mayan calender predicts is true, it is the end of the world. My great great great great great grandfather said that in December of 2012 the world would come to an end, and he was no lier and was a very educated man in his tribe.
Sad, your life is based on lies.
Oh great, another one of these people.
I feel the same way about people who believe in biblical fairy tails
@debra bowman: Last time I checked, there where not 'tails' in the Bible. Didn't any fairies either...but perhaps you would be so kind as to show me where you saw that....
@debra bowman: Last time I checked, there where no 'tails' in the Bible. Didn't see any fairies either...but perhaps you would be so kind as to show me where you saw that....
Mayan, not malayan....Not the far east, but Central America.
It's hilarious that religious people think these Mayan doomsday people are crazy.... because i view the religious people as crazy as well
Just so you know, Atheist is spelled this way.
Why should I believe in your silly supertistions?
I am Lakota your silly bible has no meaning.
Take your silly religion and go rape and pillage some place else.
o loa ki lee
The Bible is the word of 3,000 men from the Bronze age and not God. It's clearly b.s. and quite sad to think that most if not all uneducated people are enslaved with this crappy belief system. When are people going to start realizing that Human civilization has been around for Tens of thousands of years longer than the bible.
Dave – I agree completely! Mankind may be even older, hundreds of thousands of years or perhaps even millions of years old!
It seems that often, when archeologists dig in strata that is deemed "too old for human artifacts", they still find more, even older HUMAN ARTIFACTS! With each new dig site, the timeline for the development of mankind keeps getting pushed further and further back! Read "Forbidden Archeology" by Michael Cremo for some truly amazing and unexplained archeological finds!
If I asked, would you go away?
Or at least shut up?
The Mayan calendar is just that - a calendar. It does not predict the end of the world. It predicts the end of a cycle, just like our calendar December 31 "predicts" the end of a year. It's not a religious thing, it's just a calendar. When the cycle ends, the next one begins - just like when our calendar ends on December 31, our new "cycle" begins on January 1. Sheesh! Saying you "don't believe in the Mayan calendar" is like saying you don't believe today is May 11 2012. Senseless. Not EVERYTHING in the world is trying to threaten your religious beliefs. Get a grip!
If He comes like a thief in the night, He will set off my burglar alarm and my dog will bite him. Tell him to come around after I've had my coffee.
Thats not really a sound argument, sharlene. Though I do share the Christian belief that no one will know the time when the world ends, I am also open-minded enough to know that there are many, many people out there who do not subscribe to Christianity, and therefore may believe that it can be predicted. If other religions are of the belief that this can be predicted, then who is right? You may believe in the Christian God, I may believe in the Christian God, but that is not the belief for everyone and that is okay.
Well someone is going to be saying "see I told you so" on Dec 22.
lol
Darn, you mean I kicked my wife and two young daughters out in the cold so I could sell my house and start paying on my rocket ship to Mars for nothing? I also threw my grandmother off the cliff so that she would not take up any more space or medicare on this planet than necessary when the gravity poles switch. How stupid I was to listen to those pot smoking liberals in the 90's.
Pot smoking liberals? It's been the Christian Fascists who have been pounding away at this nonsense. They want the world to come an end. They want the death and destruction that will (supposedly) accompany it. That way, they can get their rewards in heaven. You know, like the 72 virgins the Muslims believe they will get.
thechristians and muslims have nothing in common when it comes to religion i do know jesus christ died on the cross for our sins and our sin debt was paid when god returns all evil will be destroyed and aa new heaven and earth created so we can be with god forever revelations in the bible tells us and warns us to be prepared the bible cannot lie it is the word of god and he is warning all to be ready for his return gor truly loves us and wants us to be with him seek him and ye shall find believe that jesus died forour sins and god raised him from the dead and you can have his salvation it is freely given to anyone who believes i pray you will seek him out
AMEN!!!!!!!!
The Bible is the word of 3,000 men from the Bronze age and not God. It's clearly b.s. and quite sad to think that most if not all uneducated people are enslaved with this crappy belief system. When are people going to start realizing that Human civilization has been around for Tens of thousands of years longer than the bible.
KAS, I actually hear this more from people who aren't big church-goers. They also think a dark planet is going to hit us last October and destroy the world, and HAARP is controling your mind.
Sharlene – "God" did not write a SINGLE WORD of the old testament nor the new testament! These "books" or letters were written by people and were addressed to certain other people, depending upon which book you might refer to. Nearly ALL of these letters were written with political implications in mind and much of the content relates to ancient leaders and their policies! You DO realize that there is not a single "eye witness" account of ANYTHING, ANYWHERE in the bible! EVERY one of these "books" were written HUNDREDS of years after the alleged events took place! These books are nothing more than a record of ancient fables, allegories, cautionary tales and legends. Most of the tales that appear in the bible were handed down from earlier cultures and earlier forms of religion! The ancient Egyptians and the ancient Sumerarians have nearly identical stories and fables contained in their history of legends!
I guess Sharlene isn't aware that the Old Testament of the Bible is pretty much the same story in the Quran. She is also probably not aware that Muslims recognize Jesus as a prophet...
Seventy-two virgins? Gosh, I sure hope they have viagra there!
Time treats everyone like a fool.
It was just the Mayan Y2K – time marches on.
Just goes to show that they really can't count.
Who cant count? The Mayan calendar is more accurate than ours. They believe the Mayan calendar is more accurate than the atomic clock.
More accurate than an atomic clock? Um . . . [citation needed]. Seriously, calendars measure days, months, years, longer. Atomic clocks measure tiny fractions of seconds. This isn't just "apples and oranges" you're confusing here. This is Apples and Radio Waves.
Jeez, it was a joke - Y2K != 2012, i.e., they were off by almost 13 years. Funny. Ha ha. Laughter, etc.
Actually, the Mayans were extraordinary astronomers and mathematicians; they worked out the ratios between the day, lunar month, and year to a fine degree of accuracy. They certainly did a better job than Caesar, but not much better than the Greeks, who did know that the year is around 11 minutes shorter than 365 1/4 days. They certainly were no match for atomic clocks.
So i guess all we have left to worry about are solar storms, economic collapse, epidemics or a super volcano. Whew, we dodged a bullet!
Don't forget a killer comet!
I also farted just now. Wait a few seconds...
Zombie apocalypse!
Thats putting the whole nut in a shell.
Doesn't mention anywhere on the calander that our race would be around to keep count
Hey, what's going on here. Half the people making comments sound just like my newly hired Financial Advisor ?
Am I the only one who knows that were it not for alterations to calendars by both Julius Caesar and Pope Gregory, we would be in 2013 right now?
Unless you can produce EVIDENCE (not compelling arguments, but physical EVIDENCE) that the Mayan civilization knew about these adjustments and then adjusted their calendars accordingly, December 21, 2012 has already passed.
Sweet! I made it through alive.
Yes. Everyone saw that stupid Facebook thing circulating.
not sure if you're trolling or just dumb... but you know the mayans weren't exactly paying attention to those european calendars, right?
The Mayan did not predict the date of events in Christian calendar (ie December 21 2012). They predicted it in their own calendar. Their calendar was translated to ours not too long ago… so yes all the adjustments are taken into account.
Really....... You think the Mayans had a Julian calendar back then? I love hearing from people that don't even have the smallest amount of intelligence. The Mayan's calender uses counts, not dates like the Julian calender, to arrive at "cycles." The Mayan's never "predicted" the end of the world on 21 Dec 2012 – that was Hollywood. The Mayan's predicted the end of the 5th age and the beginning of the 6th age – the age of enlightenment.
Now there are people that postulate that on the Winter Solstice there will be great calamity due to the aligning of the "stars" with the center of the galaxy – which by the way is believed to be a super-massive black hole. The possibility that a gravitational force could cause catastrophes here on earth exist, yet they are remote.
This year is also the year when the Sun will be emitting the highest amount of solar flares in a very long time, generally on 11 year cycles, the last one wasn't so bad. You have a greater chance that something related to the Sun will negatively impact us versus something else at the moment.
But again, according to you "Those dumb Mayans didn't adjust for leap years and thus it is really 2013." The fact that the Leap year exists is because we, as in modern man, didn't create an accurate calender. The fact is the Mayans were more accurate in their calender than we have today. Can YOU without using google and only looking at the stars tell me when the next full Moon is? How about the next time a comet is going to be within viewing distance?
Yeah, thought so...
Finally someone that has brains. It gets so hard sometimes because mostly everyone that posts are really du mb, and ignorant. You wonder why the world is in such a sad state!
It's based on the solstice (like many calendars made by developing cultures), not a calendar made by Europeans. We're not already in 2013. That # is completely made up & based on the birth (if you believe) of Christ. Even the start date for our current calendar system is in dispute. We could be in 2010 or 2016 or sometime in between, given that Biblical scholars are still arguing over when Christ was actually born. Sheesh.
The Mayan Calendar was developed independently of the Ancient Euro-calendars and so never included the errors that the Julien and Gregorian adjustments were meant to correct. You might say that the Euros took 1500 years to catch up with the Mayans. All the same, the end of a cycle doesn't mean death. It means 'start a new cycle'.
Live each day as your last. If you are here tomorrow, enjoy the day. You'll never know when the last day will come.
Is that from tonight's episode of "Non Sequitor Theatre?"
This probably goes without saying, but one last try - there is not one scientifically sound reason to believe that there is going to be any change on December 21. There is nothing about a galactic alignment that changes basic gravitaitonal relationships. There is nothing about the solar maximum that will be any different than the last solar maximum. And I wouldn't lose any sleep about a hidden planet or dwarf star within our heliosphere headed our way. I think there's a far greater liklihood that we'll end up destroying each other in the next decade or two.
You are probably to young to know anything about the 5th Dimension and the Age of Aquarius (1969). Those were the days !
Maybe, Lou, maybe not. See my older post below.
I also wouldn't worry about a sudden reversal of the Earth's magnetic poles (not that I care - I've got GPS).
What a moron!
You’re GPS will not work if there was to be a pole shift!
Um, yes, it will. GPS is based on satellite triangulation using atomic clocks as a time base. They have no dependency on the location of the earth's magnetic fields.
How do you think satellites work? All navigational devices depend on a campus. Actually we have to correct them regularly for the slight pole shifts that earth experiences, otherwise they would be highly inaccurate in a short period of time.
So in case of a pole shift all shipping, air-flight and all GPS equipment, including satellites, would be off-line until we figured out how to cope with the reversal.
Umm, sorry, wrong again. GPS satellite positions are not calibrated to the magnetic poles. The magnetic poles are quite large; there' s no way you can determine their centers to the degree of accuracy GPS is capable of (differential GPS is capable of accuracy down to around 10cm). The true poles are used for positioning calculations, as the earth's rotation must be taken into account.
Orbital positioning of the satellites is performed by taking precise time measurements from known ground stations. You may want to read http://www.colorado.edu/geography/gcraft/notes/gps/gps.html before you show your ignorance (again).
Great news, and very timely. I was beginning to worry! No, I mean, you'd have to be a complete moron to think that Mayans were not familiar with the number 14.
14's a piece of cake; 15 is the hard one!
The Relvelation says otherwise. That and Daniel, Ezekiel, and Psalms agree and are thousands of years old. Believe what you want and live with what you chose when we vanish and you're left with your fake ufos, and the antichrist. I don't monitor what I type, so have a nice day.
It's not clear you even monitor what you think....
@Pat – Bazinga!
ummmm..... Hell Yea?
Where in revelation does it say we will vanish?
Revelation? What's that? (Okay, I'm kidding, but to base your life on something written by shepherds 2000 years ago? Come on - get real!)
So being old carries weight?
A few hundred years ago people thought the world was flat, that was proved wrong.
I'm sure ancient peoples still have many secrets we still have to find, but being ancient means lack of technology, and a more limited grasp on the world then modern day man has now. If a volcano exploded 500,000 years ago, I'm sure some primitive caveman would attribute it to some make believe fire god. In the way 2,000 year old people attributed a plague of locusts to your ficticious god.
Something being old doesn't give it weight, and it must be judged on your own merits. As for you, you have a 2,000 year old fairy tale with no proof.
But should the world end, because Sony Entertainment scared you dullards into thinking 2012 was real, please say hi to Kirk Cameron for me when you're saved.
;D
it seems to me maybe you are afraid to find out if god really exists or not the bible is gods word and has never changed and never will because god is the same today,the same yesterday and will be the same tomorrow, his word s will never die he created heaven and earth and all in between why not try to find out for sure if he is real or not this is about your eternal soul and where for our sin. you will be spending it,why not investigate the possibility that god is real and that he did send his son jesus christ to die for us
@shirley – really, STFU. Jesus himself commanded you to pray in solitude. Plus, you're a woman. You're not supposed to be talking to strange men ANYWAY, you brazen hussy.
I'll bet you still talk to men while you're menstruating. OMG – THE HORROR! UNCLEAN! OUTCAST! UNCLEAN!
One last thing...
The MAJORITY of the people on Earth right now, and in the past, were not Christian. And certainly, not *all* Christians are really saved, because you know some are just pretending to be Christian. SO – you'd have to agree that the percentage of people going to your Christian heaven is MICROSCOPICALLY small when compared to the astronomically vast amount of people YOU say will be going to hell.
Doesn't that make your god an abject failure? I mean, if the vast majority of the souls he created have turned away from him and don't believe in him, that means he's not very charismatic. Not a very good salesman. No wonder why he's such an egotistical tyrant, demanding this and commanding that. Maybe if he took that stick out of his ass and relax a little, he'd be more liked.
I think not, though. He did, after all, send a bear to kill 42 children because they had laughed at one of god's fat, balding priest.
No, not likeable at all.
Please - VANISH! RIGHT NOW!! The world would be a much better place without folks like you.
You know that "Revelations" is BY FAR the LEAST credible book in the entire Bible! There have been several times in past Bible history when Revelations was nearly removed from the Bible entirely due to its vauge and questionable content! Many serious theologians dismiss the book entirely!
Can you hurry up with that rapture vanishing act, the sane, logical folks are really looking forward to a world where people don't have conversations with their imaginary friend in the sky. If your 'beliefs' are correct, we'll both be happier on that day that all the good 'christians' vanish
There's going to be a lot of disappointed people on December 22nd.
Dang it. I spent all my savings thinking I would not need money after December. Now I have to start cutting back my starbucks coffee and start saving again!!
Am I the only one who feels these so called "experts" are like 13 year old girls telling you they love you and then change their mind the next week while becoming a Emo kid, then a Scene Kid, then a Valley girl...it's like a tease or blue balls that never end. I'm not a guy, but I can only imagine what an eternity of blue balls might feel like.
The true experts never changed their minds. True Mayan historians never predicted the end of the world based on their calendar - that was just hype generated by a few new-age weirdos and a whole bunch of opportunists who wanted to sell books and get on talk shows (not to mention the media's constant 24/7 need for something to keep the masses glued to their sets/browsers - he said while glued to his browser).
It worries me that 13 yera old girls are giving you the blue balls.
Especially since Linny isn't a guy.
Would you rather they relieve his blue balls?
LOL! Good hit guys... They were supposed to be separate ideas but that didn't work out very well :/
Maybe those who purchase doomsday dwellings can still get some of their money back.
Now I can convert my bomb shelter into a pool!
The Mayans were a Stone Age civilization, they didn't see the Spanish coming, and they sure as hell didn't see the end of the world coming 500 years after their own demise. It is common for people to think that the ancients somehow knew more than we do now, probably due to the influence of the Dark Ages, but it is the 21st century, and today we know more than the ancients could ever have imagined about the universe.
Exactly. Well said.
They saw the spanish coming, just didn't know it was Cortez, the Killer.
They knew about galactic alignments and made cylindrical pattern predictions about history. For their time, they should not have had that kind of knowledge. Even if the world doesn't end, we are in for a hell of a ride.
Why Mayan culture ended? Like many other ancient cultures it practiced Human Sacrifice to God, all pretty much ended today. But it doesn't mean one or two of their ancient soul won't escape into today's power circle, due to the simple reason as we have realized Human Sacrifice to God is still been practiced today in a modern fashion.
How is babby formed?? How is babby formed?? How girl get pregnant??
The mayan civilization came to an end due to over use of their resources. Those huge buildings required an enormouse amount of burnt lime and they destroyed their forests for fuel.
IT ended because europe [greedy kings & queens] with thier unquinchable to own everything and everybody.
Let's wait 6 months and see... Don't cry if these archeologist are wrong... Ok?
In the meanwhile... ALL THE PEOPLE IN CALIFORNIA AND OREGON SHOULD MOVE INLAND... MOVE INLAND!!
Man i hope you're joking with this comment lol. I cant believe some people really base their lives on bunch of stonage dooshh baggs from god knows when. Only God knows when the world will end.
Well said; my friend
It's funny you call them d-bags or think they are crazy/weird for believing in the Mayan end of the world prophecy. But at the same time you mention God, and I think you are all crazy for believing in a fairy tale, and basing your life around that.
Why California and Oregon? You have some foreclosed properties in Stockton CA you want to sell at 2X their worth, or are you just hoping someone living at Pebble Beach CA will sell their $20,000,000.00 home to you for $1.00 because of your terror mongering.
he's hoping oceanfront property in Cali gets cheap enough to buy.
If you want oceanfront property you should move to Arizona or Utah.
I think you're confusing Dec. 2012 with Lex Luthor's evil plan to sink CA into the ocean. You wouldn't happen to be Otis would you?
Whew !! That's a relief !
this is a dumb article. first off, the EXPERTS are the ones that came up with the mayans and the end of the world. second of all, its not just the mayans. there were a lot of cultures that pointed to that day. third, we make a calander that cycles every 360 days. the mayans werent smart enough to do the same? im not saying the end of the world is coming but this article is garbage, it doesnt address a single problem of the mayan calander.. which yes, basically runs out..
I don't know one single expert that ever gave this theory the time of day. What experts are you referring to? MUFON?
wow dude, did you read the article? It says it runs out. And restarts. Like our 365 day calendar. Except 399 years longer. And experts didn't come up with the mayans. They weren't invented like ewoks or tibbles. Experts have been studying them. And like anything that gets studied, new things are found out and opinions change. Just because the mayans didnt' come up with the same stretch of time to base their calendar on means they weren't smart? The rest of the world is using the metric system...dumb @zzes.
Climb back in your bunker, the sky is falling chicken little.
Tribbles aren't real?? :*-(
It doesn't surprise me that you are exceptionally misinformed.
1) It was not the experts who created this whole mythology of the world ending. It was uneducated smucks like yourself.
2) The Mayan calendar was and continues to be one of the most precise records of time and astrology. No silly leap year for them.
3) If you had even the most basic knowledge of the Mayan long count you would know that the calendar does not "run out".
I suppose that you, as the highest expert on the topic, should've been consulted, huh?
Actually, the experts were consulted a long time ago. They debunked the entire Mayan Y2K+12 concept, but like any sensational story, it lived on, stoked by people who have a vested interest (look up all the books on Amazon) and those who will believe anything they read. Respected news sites that publish articles about it without big "folks, there's no way this could be real and all the experts agree it can't" disclaimers are partly to blame. The number of people expecting the world to end this year also doesn't engender much faith in our current educational system, either.
I'm sure if you were a Mayan back then, you would enjoy drawing up calendars for the rest of your life. Of course, I have to give them credit for continuing to 13, I would've stopped after I got bored at 5 or so.
No, I will NOT buy your 100K bunker back!
No kidding. Everyone but the loonies already knows the world isn't going to end on 12/21. But it's sure generating a lot of revenue for some businesses. Anything to make a buck, I suppose. Prepare for the date to be moved back slightly when we all wake up on 12/22.
The only way massive amounts of people are going to die on 12/12/12 is by taking their own lives, fine with me as long as it is only their life they intend to end, unfortunately some whacked out adults will take their children's lives with them, makes you wonder why they even had kids. The same whacked out Christians that don't believe in abortion will end up feeding their kids poison on 12/12/12.
The only way massive amounts of people are going to die on 12/12/12 is by taking their own lives
Or George Bush could pull a Putin once Romney gets elected and brin in Dick Cheney, I heard his new heart is not darker than the previous one.
Yeah, they're just re-selling the left over Y2K stock.
December 21, 2012 was never an "apocalypse" to come. It is exactly what they try to affirm here; An end to a cycle, but a new beginning. We're entering the age of Aquarius. It's a shift of conciousness. The world isn't going to "end." Will there be chaos? Maybe. It's a whole 180 degree shift of energy. But the world isn't going to end...just my thoughts (see 2012 fractal).
When the moon is in the seventh house and Jupiter aligns with Mars. "Based on the research by Nicholas Campion, most published material on the subject state that the Age of Aquarius arrived in the 20th century (29 claims), with the 24th century in second place with twelve claimants. Eight researchers claim the Aquarian age will arrive in the 25th century while the 21st, 26th and 27th centuries have seven supporters for each century. Other centuries that have a number of supporters for the beginning of the Aquarian age include: 22nd and 23rd centuries (6 each); 19th century (5); and the 18th century (4)."
Would you help me scratch my head... I'm too confused! 🙁
Hmm, I knew there were different accounts for when the Age of Aquarius was going to occur, but wow, that's a lot. Either way, I stand by my opinion about it being a shift of conciousness. I don't know how many of you "feel" the change, but I do. I think it's something to look forward to..we're evolving (not necessarily our physical bodies, but our spirits/conciousness).
/scratch
I thought the 5th Dimension wrote that song back in 1969 lol.
We're not gonna have to sing than annoying song, are we?
Actually it was written by James Rado, one of the co-authors of HAIR, the Fifth Dimension just did a greatr cover of it and moved it into mainstream pop culture forever (and who doesn't love the song!)
Well said! It's the end of a 'cycle' and a time of purification – not the end of the world. By the way, the Mayan's aren't the only ones calling December 2012 the end of a cycle...so there might be 'some' merit to a possible event.
'The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," added Stuart.'
The man has absolutely no concept of the staggering number an octillion represents.... or even a trillion.
He was throne off.
Our own sun will burn out long before that happens, in approximately 5 billions years or so.
his point on those big numbers is that the calendar talks of cycles that repeat but doesn't talk of those cycles finally ending. That doesn't mean one way or the other whether the Mayan thought the world might end some day, but just that the concept of the world ending isn't part of their calendar. Our own modern calendar is the same in that the year can just keep getting bumped without limit.
I still have my ticket stub from that 2012 movie. Does this mean I can get my money back?
Why all of a sudden are they coming up with an article like this now. Why didn't they come out several years ago.
Maybe because they discovered this house in 2010, spent a year or more excavating it, and their peer-reviewed paper is just coming out today. Jeez, did you even read the article to the end?
Yes, but tomorrow, they will say that they found another house in 2011 that has paintings showing that it will be the end.... And then, they will find another house in 2012 that will tell them that it's not going to end.... My point: Do try to give the moral of the story, until you read the whole story.....
Dang, I wish I hadn't taken all those "No Payments Until 2013" offers.
lol
The Book says end of the age not the world and the beginning of a new age; the Kingdom of Heaven. No one knows when except God, that includes Mayans.
The purpose of language is to tell someone something and I think the writer succeeded despite the spelling error. Those who pointed out the
The good book says "end of the age" not the world and it will be followed by a better one; the Kingdom of Heaven.
"No one knows the time except God" ; that includes the Mayans.
Hallelujah, pheweeeee I AM relieved.
On the down side, I'll have to pay taxes and file for them next April.
No, no, no. I had planned everything on the end coming in Dec. We can not make changes now; we must continue the countdown. What am I going to do with the cake and the decorations? Not fair!
"An apocalypse (Greek: ἀποκάλυψις apokálypsis; "lifting of the veil" or "revelation") is a disclosure of something hidden from the majority of mankind in an era dominated by falsehood and misconception, i.e. the veil to be lifted. The Apocalypse of John (Greek Ἀποκάλυψις Ἰωάννου) is the Book of Revelation, the last book of the New Testament. By extension, apocalypse can refer to any End Time scenario, or to the end of the world in general." Wikipedia.com
Doesn't sound so bad, does it?
I wonder when everyone is gonna wake up and realize this whole thing about december 21, 2012 is a media trip. How many saw the movie 2012? Now before that movie was there talk about the date mentioned, i sure don't recall any mention. Another thing is when the day comes, its gonna be December 22 across the international date line, so that pretty much puts it out. I'm not worried about this, God made this planet and only God will destroy it when that time is no one knows.
It was also perpetrated by wing-nut religious groups who go around getting ignorant people to hand over all their worldly possessions so that when the world does come to an end they will be with a group that supposedly has special access to heaven. Once you realize there is no god you don't have to waste your time praying or making offerings for your salvation.
I'm willing to believe in the concept of some form or creator or supreme being; however, I am not willing to believe that if such does exist, it has the slightest interest in us, our behavior, our beliefs, or our planet, nor do I believe we have the capacity to understand it or its actions in any way.
the end of the world is not coming....i guess i have to start paying my bills again...
I agree the end of the world may not come on December 21, 2012 and the calender will continue. That doesn't mean that big changes will not occur. Maybe this story is coming out just to keep us calm so we are completely unprepared when the poop really hits the fan!
There's some left over Koolaid in Jonestown if you are in a hurry.
Thank, I'll pass. The truth is, nobody knows when the end of the world will happen but that doesn't mean some serious sh-t won't ever happen or couldn't happen on that date. Just sayin'
It will only happen if man wants it to happen. If man wants to start a nuclear war, or release a deadly virus upon society just to satisfy a religious prophesy then it will happen. Right now their is no indication that an asteroid or comet will hit earth and whip out mankind.
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The world will never end but our species will as did 99% of species that ever existed on this planet. That's just how it is so just enjoy it. Besides Christianity killed the Mayans far before their calendar was probably even completed. The Mayan codecs would probably explain this but the majority of them were burned by the forced conversion to Christianity by the Spanish. Yay religion....-
And the heathens now have TV and cars, what a rescue from an evil life.
And yet the roaches will continue to march on. Wonder what there secret is?
umm, not Christianity..Catholicism.
note to mofo - google "Oliver Cromwell" who most defihnitely was NOT Catholic.
Cortez and the Spaniards killed the Aztecs, not the Mayans. Open a book.
Life is a cycle. Will go extinct–and rise again. As long as there are monkeys around we can still evolve from them again–our 'raw' materials.
The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," added Stuart. I guess our Sun will never run out of fuel, expand and die.
That is why man needs to get off this rock and out of this solar system as soon as possible.
Some Americans think we should sit on this rock until the inevitable occurs.
But doesn't it make ratteling good fun. I mean "The worlds going to come to and end, OOOOOOOO!!!!!" We all know it's hocus pocus dreamed up by somebody who wants to make a name for themselves. But still, it's like watching a horror flick, your scared, but you have to watch. It's much more entertaining than the real horrors we face every day. I for one believe that if you know the world is coming to an end, then it probably isn't. Like Y2K. OOOOOOO!!!!! Scaaary.
We are all saved!! ; )
Just go to youtube and search "Neil Degrasse Tyson december 21" and he also debunks this idea quite well.
don't you people have editors??
No kidding. It was painful to read.
Excuse me, but I'm leaving to sit on my "thrown." Seriously, CNN?
Nice catch, Lisa. The misspelling has been corrected. Thanks for reading!
Sophia Dengo, CNN
"thrown" instead of "throne", missing words, etc. There is no excuse for errors like that in a professional publication. If they can't even get proper spelling, grammar, and editing right, it makes you wonder if they can even get their facts on other stories right.
Well... according to what I read; this archeologists are basing their conclusions on an older calendar... however, let me remind you boys that when we keep working on something, no matter what it is, is to improve it... so the new Maya calendar ends in 2012, the Mayas were better astronomers and had more intel than you guys have... So, guess who I believe; besides, did you forget the Hopi prophecy? ... The Aztec Calendar... HELLOOoooo!! :O
So by that theory, our calendar is still more accurate due to it being newer. Not to mention it's more scientifically accurate.
If the Mayans are so smart, why are they all dead?
They're not an extinct people.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maya_peoples
Only the Mayan civilization was destroyed, not it's peoples. They survive both in mixture with the mestizo populations of the modern nation states they inhabit and also in "purer" forms in tribal areas.
They're not dead. They moved to L.A.
and Texas
oh, I certainly stand corrected then, thanks for the info
They aren't, they just have different names.Jose, Juan, Pablo.
Oh boy... let me explain this again... to begin with, they "were", they were an ancient civilization; when you way "if the Maya are so smart", you imply they're still wondering around, but then you contradict yourself when you say "why are they all dead"; anyway, the answer is, forces of nature, too much deforestation to make mortar to build pyramids led to the destruction of forests (back then, there was no jungle), then there was a long drough, and they didn't harvest food for a long time, many of them died, others migrated to other territories; believing they have been cursed by the gods, they didn't dare to return to the ancient sites... The Maya as a tribe dissapeared, but of course some individuals survived and joined other tribes.
Ah very interesting...yeah I kinda did contradict myself – I blame it on waking up 10 minutes ago.
you my friend are a very stupid and uneducated person. A lot of them were kill by Spanish conquerors. the rest scatter and are part of the modern population of Guatemala, Belize El Salvador and Honduras among others. they maintain their language, the Mayan language, (i recommend the Rabinal Achi, a play written in the Achi language). they also maintain their art, architecture and mathematical and astronomical system.
there is a lot going on on the world outside the frontiers of the USA.
I think TX was just trying to convey sarcasm with that comment.
uneducated eh? try telling that to my B.S. degree
it's true...there was definitely a rich amount of sarcasm in that post 🙂
They say one of the best signs of intelligence is the ability to understand sarcasm. This guy is probably a Maya, that's why he's mad.
LOL nice
The mayans are still living... the indigenous mayans of Guatemala (Maya Quiche), in particular, survived a decades long genocide, peaking in the 1980s. They are an indigenous people with amazing strength and courage. Sadly, most of the world is unaware of what these people have gone through. Instead we romanticize their ancient history, silencing their everyday stories that are far more meaningful.
ah, the baktuns...I totally forgot about the baktuns. Now what am I going to do with all this food and ammunition I've been storing? Drat!
you'll still need it. While the world may not be ending, at the rate governments are mis managing everything, society may be ending.
LOL I'll take it off your hands
Don't worry, you can always just save it for the Zombie Apocalypse.
well the zombie apocalypse is definitely coming! any day now...
"Mayan experts" How many Myans have these so called experts interviewed ? Anything the so-called experts talk about are only theories.
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I don't know, this could possibly confirm the prediction if you think about it in the opposit manner. They are saying that "older" versions of the calendar go past that date. Why would a "newer" calendar stop ?
Do you have any idea what you're talking about? Interview who? What older and newer calendar? You know the Mayan have't been around for centuries, right? So it's all the same calendar, just new information about said calendar.
The Mayan astronomers got bored and went on to study something else. Without computers, I'm sure that calculating their calendar out for millennia may have been exciting the first couple of times, but to keep doing it over and over?
But having their calendar go on and on is not as fun as an Apocalypse!!
If the demise of mankind comes on December 21, 2012, but the world continues. Doesn't December 22, 2012 still exist when the sun rises ? So in reality, the Apocalypse is back on !
"...appears to be a workspace for Mayan scribes."
The Mayans actually wrote books. Most were destroyed by the Spanish in an attempt to hasten their conversion to Christianity. But a handful remain and form the basis of our understanding of the Mayan language.
christians destroy everything they touch
and DeeNYC destroys every comment thread she touches.
History Always Written by the Victors regardless of religion; Christians, Muslims, Jews, or other less known religions, religion and mans idea of God is just a way to justify mass murder and destruction of different cultures.
Yet another shining example of the benefits organized religion has has on humanity.
I was unaware the Mayans used a "thrown" instead of a throne. Amazing what they can do with technology these days.
Awesome
"The Mayan calendar is going to keep going for billions, trillions, octillions of years into the future," Octillion is, 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000. The Earth is reportedly 4,500,000,000 years old. The Mayan calendar will not go on for octillions of years, our sun will have progressed into a red giant and swallowed the Earth and collapsed into a white dwarf in less time than an octillion years.
The nerd in me was just thinking that!
and yet time will still go on, with earth here or not.
I think the author was saying that the mayan calendar just measures the passage time and will continue on forever. It doesn't matter if the earth is destroyed since the concept continues. Does time stop when the sun swallows earth? No.
yes, but if there is no one counting on time, does time still exist?
Dude, I drew that.
Maybe use a little more blue next time.
THROWN? Wow,,,
"I was shocked to find a beautifully preserved image of a Mayan king on his thrown,"
The article starts with a dangling modifier ("Nestled in the deep trenches...scientists have uncovered...") and becomes progressively worse. A fourth grader should write better and report more accurately than this. CNN has no standards.
I was throne for a loop when I saw it, too.
It's been corrected. Thanks for reading.
Sophia Dengo, CNN
I've come to the conclusion that when it comes to the Mayan Calender no one knows what the hell they're talking about.
I agree my friend...
This is where a 'Like' button would be truly relevant.
A lot of people understand it; I've seen the breakdown of how it works. It's about two pages long and full of weird names like baktun and manana.
End of the world? Hardly! Return of Nibiru? Namely, yes!
I think David Icke had it right all along!
But when Nibiru returns it could be the end of the world and life as we know it.
It sounds like the Great White Male Scientist is not training local scientists to take over studying their own culture. It looks like Racism at UT and Boston University lives on, even into the Mayan new year.
Can our end of world or end of time experts change their predicted date. New date 2045
Well, there goes the end of the world theory! Sorry all you folks who believe the world will end on December 21st! If you still believe...leave me your pin #'s, passwords! I'll take the house and car off your hands too...as long as there paid for!!!
I got a 1976 AMC Pacer – you tow it, it's yours.
Uh-uh...he's got dibs on my Yugo first.
I'll take it! it'll make a great bunker on 12/22