Super-Jupiter spotted 170 light years away
The planet shown in this illustration, Kappa Andromedae b, is a "super-Jupiter" object.
November 19th, 2012
06:16 PM ET

Super-Jupiter spotted 170 light years away

By Elizabeth Landau, CNN

Scientists have discovered what could be a massive planet outside our solar system, NASA said Monday.

Astronomers used infrared data from the Subaru Telescope in Hawaii to identify Kappa Andromedae b, a "super-Jupiter" object that appears to be nearly 13 times the mass of Jupiter.

The planet orbits a star called Kappa Andromedae. It's not entirely certain whether Kappa Andromedae b is a planet, however, NASA said. If it can generate energy by fusion, it would be considered a "brown dwarf" star.

Fusion is the process by which atomic nuclei combine, releasing a huge amount of energy. The sun produces energy by fusing the common form of hydrogen into helium. But a brown dwarf fuses deuterium, a heavier form of hydrogen gas. Brown dwarf stars are dimmer and cooler than other stars, but purely in the temperature sense; they have also been called "failed stars."

Planets do not produce energy through fusion. However, planets do emit heat that is left over from their own formation.

If it is a brown dwarf, Kappa Andromedae b would have the lowest possible mass for a brown dwarf.

The discovery sets a record for Kappa Andromedae, the host star. It is now the most massive star to host a planet that has been directly imaged, or to have a lightweight brown dwarf companion.

The research comes from a five-year effort called the Strategic Explorations of Exoplanets and Disks with Subaru (SEEDS).

You can see the star Kappa Andromedae without a telescope; it is in the direction of the nearby constellation Andromeda. But you won't be visiting any time soon, since the star is 170 light years away.

Slate blogger Phil Plait emphasizes that this discovery is exciting because although scientists have detected more than 850 planets beyond our solar system, few of them have been directly detected. In other words, it's not often that we can get an image with light coming from them - here's a gallery of the ones we know about.

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  1. maryannelanders

    This story has intriguing implications. Our Jupiter has lots of moons. Some are distinctive worlds in themselves. One, Europa, has an icy surface that might conceal oceans of liquid water. And we all know what that might mean.

    So is the same true of Kappa Andromedae b? And other exo-Jupiters? Many if not most of those discovered so far have been hot giants orbiting close to their suns. So if they have moons with water on them, and the temperature is right . . . well, consider the possibilities!

    November 21, 2012 at 3:27 pm |
  2. energiefreiheit

    Thank for this information is reales.

    November 21, 2012 at 1:11 am |
  3. ola festus

    Hmm what an inspirering event

    November 21, 2012 at 12:36 am |
  4. Mitt Romney

    NASA, like Big Bird, is a big waste of government funding. The only way this economy gets back on its feet is if we outsource all our civilian jobs to China and then next week totally deny that we ever did that or SAY that we would do that. Romney 2012!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 7:37 pm |
    • A Big Telescope

      I just spotted Kolob. It's a Super Uranus.

      November 20, 2012 at 7:40 pm |
    • Alien

      screw the economy you hick

      November 20, 2012 at 9:36 pm |
    • Acceler8

      This would not be the planet known as Niburo (spelling), you know the one that is supposed to throw off the alignment in December? I am not joking, can someone answer this please?

      November 20, 2012 at 9:54 pm |
      • Lee-Anne

        A planet (or brown dwarf) 170 light years away would not affect anything. Not that there is any planet near by going to affect anything in the next month. For any object to come close enough to actually do that much damage, it would have been spotted by now. Not even any large rocks near by right now on a path near us.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:11 pm |
      • aaxiomm

        Ha! Only if it's traveling towards us at warp 8! It only has a month to get here...that is, if you believe any of that nonsense. 🙂

        November 21, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • Solaris32095

      Poor soul MITH ROBBERY!!!!

      November 22, 2012 at 5:47 pm |
    • tbone

      He lost already crawl back under your rock.

      November 26, 2012 at 11:59 am |
  5. Genius

    If we drop 1/32 solar mass of oxygen on the sun and light a match we will get a sharp bang and a Super Water World

    November 20, 2012 at 6:32 pm |
    • Dumba$$

      You mean 32 solar masses of oxygen, genius$$. H2O, right?

      November 20, 2012 at 6:35 pm |
      • Mitt Rmoney

        That would be throwing our $$ into a Black Holebama

        November 20, 2012 at 6:45 pm |
  6. Hater

    Super Jupiter is a waste of taxpayer money. We coulda baked 1,000,000,000 Twinkies with that kind of Doh!

    November 20, 2012 at 6:27 pm |
  7. Barack Obama

    Message to all stars in the universe....Those planets orbiting around you, you didn't build that.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
    • Mit Romney

      Actually they kind of did

      November 20, 2012 at 5:57 pm |
      • Barack Obama

        You're not Mitt Romney. I can tell you that because spelled his name wrong.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:59 pm |
    • Mit Romney

      I can tell you're not Black Oblameowe because you spelled his name wrong

      November 20, 2012 at 6:01 pm |
      • Barack Obama

        I do not know this Black Oblameowe, but...ah...I can assure you and the american people that my name is spelled correctly. I think I...ah...know how to spell my own name.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:04 pm |
  8. John-117

    ha ha. Jupiter doesn't exist and neither does this so called "exoplanet" Space isn't even real. If space did in fact exist(it doesn't) then why pray tell can the average American not go to this so called "space". Its a conspiracy if you ask me.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:48 pm |
    • For the law was given through Moses

      A Jewish conspiracy

      November 20, 2012 at 5:51 pm |
    • Barack Obama

      I can assure you that there is no conspiracy about space. If you ask me about it, ah, I will exercise executive privileges not to answer, but I can assure you and the american people that space is real.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm |
    • Mit Romney

      Exoplanet is completely landlocked. You need permission from Pakistan to go there.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
  9. ME

    The article says the MASS is nearly 13x that of Jupiter. This does not mean it is 13x the size. Jupiter is mostly gas anyways so for all we know the earth could be 13x the mass of jupiter, or more! Big deal...

    November 20, 2012 at 5:14 pm |
    • There you go agin'

      No. We know Jupiter's mass from, among other things, the orbits of its moon (a = v^2/r = GM/r^2), amply confirmed by using its gravity well to capture, deflect or accelerate various spacecraft quite accurately.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:26 pm |
    • There you go agin'

      correction... moonS

      November 20, 2012 at 5:27 pm |
    • Shane

      We know exactly how much mass Jupiter has.

      Please go back to school and actually pay attention instead of nodding in and out of science class and picking up a couple of words.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:26 pm |
  10. Snoop Dogg

    Ok, so I'm actually smart, you guys are all so dumb it's not even funny.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:11 pm |
    • Snack Dong


      November 20, 2012 at 5:56 pm |
  11. cactus 7

    So what! Look far enough, long enough and hard enough I am sure you will find a few/many more. Then what?

    November 20, 2012 at 4:39 pm |
    • denim

      Get a wholllllllllle bunch of gas canisters there and fill'er up! Just think of how many Hindenbergs you could inflate!

      November 20, 2012 at 4:44 pm |
    • There you go agin'

      Then... we have a distribution of planets in mass, distance from star, etc., improving our models of formation/evolution composition/structure of solar systems, planets, and progenitor gas clouds and earlier metal-producing supernova, thus improving our understanding of the Earth, Moon, Mars, asteroids, comets, gas giants, Kuiper Belt and the Oort cloud, allowing to us better: understand the variability of our sun; the possibility of finding life and natural resources on the Moon, Mars, asteroids, and other solar system moons; predict the likelihood of comets and asteroids colliding with Earth and causing nuclear winters or mass extinctions. /sharp intake of breath

      November 20, 2012 at 5:23 pm |
      • Shane

        And then the poster would say "then what?"

        But you covered it fairly well, thanks.

        November 20, 2012 at 8:28 pm |
  12. jimdog33


    November 20, 2012 at 4:36 pm |
    • Stupider


      November 20, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  13. All the telescopes in the world

    "a massive planet outside our solar system"

    Oh, OUTSIDE. Whew! Cause we could have missed it if it were inside our solar system.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:35 pm |
  14. Zeus

    JUST REMEMEBR TO........

    November 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
    • Barack Obama

      The stars? You didn't build that.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:11 pm |
  15. nrt

    Oh God, it's as big as Moochelle's A$$!!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
    • Lee Downie

      Who is Moochelle?

      November 20, 2012 at 7:17 pm |
      • Barack McCartney

        Ma belle

        November 20, 2012 at 7:45 pm |
  16. Ned


    November 20, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
    • gorbit

      we're going to need a bigger solar system !

      November 20, 2012 at 4:00 pm |
      • Deep Space Network

        It's headed right for Uranus. You will get a bigger one.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:13 pm |
  17. jennylove

    If you believe we put a man on the on the moooooooon, If you believe theres nothing up his sleeve, then nothing is cool........hahaha I had a really good time reading all these posts!!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 2:55 pm |
  18. fp737

    "Fascinating, Captain!....."

    November 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
  19. lookin' for starz

    Will someone buy me a telescope big enough to see it? $4B USD should be OK. You can come over and use it anytime you want, honest......

    November 20, 2012 at 2:38 pm |
    • Me Too!

      I just bought a Celestron AstroMaster 130 EQ , what do you have? Maybe we can put them together lol

      November 20, 2012 at 2:47 pm |
      • Stiff

        A$$master 2000? Let's dock!

        November 20, 2012 at 7:46 pm |
  20. MF

    I don't get it. I wish Morgan Freeman would come explain this to me.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:36 pm |
  21. WeGoFreedor

    "But you won't be visiting any time soon, since the star is 170 light years away."

    Why in the world would anyone want to visit a STAR? Have you even heard of a single volunteer to visit the Sun? I haven't. Maybe there are more obstacles of visiting a star than just 170 light year distance.

    November 20, 2012 at 1:32 pm |
    • Barbara Moore

      It is a planet, not a star. It orbits a star just like earth is orbiting the sun.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:31 pm |
      • Barack Obama

        I can assure you and the american people that Earth's distance from the exoplanet and Earth's distance from the star is basically the same thing.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:15 pm |
    • Q1

      How else do you gain enough velocity to go back in time and save the whales?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:36 pm |
      • Quid Malmborg in Plano TX

        This is reality, Greg.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:25 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      I'm going to go to the sun but I'm going to be smart and avoid burning up by going up at night.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:40 pm |
  22. Johnna

    The stupider are from Jupider. Amen brother!

    November 20, 2012 at 1:31 pm |
    • Meh

      wow...just wow

      November 20, 2012 at 2:07 pm |
  23. MashaSobaka

    I really wish I could go to ONE astronomy article and not see atheists trying to start a sandbox fight with creationists. Give it a rest, people. Can't you just enjoy the beauty of the universe without trying to muck it up with your worthless arguments?

    November 20, 2012 at 1:10 pm |
    • Mike

      My opinion is that Evolution is the mechanism of creation.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:20 pm |
      • johnymac60

        I agree. Except that Creation is the mechanism of evolution.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:09 pm |
      • Barack Obama

        Evolution? It didn't build you.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:16 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      What I see is you starting a fight over nothing, and no posts by atheists(unless you count actually believing in planets as atheism). How about you put a sock in it?

      November 20, 2012 at 1:38 pm |
  24. Reemo

    This Just In!!! A new planet has been, wait...false alarm. There was a spec on my telescope lens.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:53 pm |
    • nbgb

      That's not a planet it's a space station. Quick put on the reverse thrusters... too late we're in the tractor beam.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:15 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        i bet you have a bad feeling about it too.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:41 pm |
  25. Jesus Christ Superstar

    I guess we found Honey Boo Boo child's grandmother!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:47 pm |
    • Barack Obama

      Correction, you and the american people have actually just found her mother.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:17 pm |
  26. CNNuthin

    At least it wasn't a Super-Uranus. Imagine the jokes we'd get with that one.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  27. Jose

    By Jove, that's no's a space station.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:23 pm |
  28. CNNuthin

    Your mom is so fat, she makes Super-Jupiter look like Regular-Jupiter.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:21 pm |
  29. Ralph Monkman

    Since the passage of time DECREASES at close to but less than the speed of light and at a constant acceleration of only one G we can soon reach a speed less than light that this planet would onl;y be a few perhaps only 170 light MONTHS distant. Think about that, (you morons)

    November 20, 2012 at 12:03 pm |
    • aceman

      You are right. In fact you can tour the universe in a lifetime at 99% the speed of light. Of course every one you ever knew would be dead when you return but o well

      November 20, 2012 at 12:19 pm |
      • Ralph Monkman

        Return?? Why on (what might be left of) earth would any one want to??

        November 20, 2012 at 12:36 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      Why are you so angry? Because we are not as "smart" as you? Why do you think it is called a light year?...because that is the distance LIGHT travels in a please explain your theory.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:28 pm |
    • kls817

      But you can't achieve an acceleration of 1G for very long. As you speed increases, the amount of power you need to maintain that accelleration increases. Remember kinetic energy is one-half mv squared. At near light speed, your kinetic energy would be one-half mc squared, which is only half of Einsteins e=mc(squared). In other words, you would have to turn half of your spaceships mass efficiently into pure energy to get to that speed, and this is extraordinary. Even an atom bomb, which converts mass to energy, only converts about one-tenth of one percent of its uranium mass to energy.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:43 pm |
      • Penny from The Big Bang Theory

        I wish Sheldon would explain all this to me!!!

        November 20, 2012 at 3:39 pm |
  30. queenjupiter

    awesome story. i am the actual queen of jupiter according to family legend, and my grandmother was named venus, so i feel like i am the natural earth diplomat to send out their and make contact.

    November 20, 2012 at 10:33 am |
    • edavis0528

      what the hell are you talking about

      November 20, 2012 at 10:51 am |
    • Bob Robertson

      I agree...I am the King of Queens and my brother is Neptune, a killer sailor from the artic sea who washes his laundry with Tide.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:03 am |
    • Deej59

      Don't mind them. They live in Seattle. They're gonna be a little trippy until the weed wears off.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:19 am |
    • That's What's Up

      probably close to queenuranus

      November 20, 2012 at 11:48 am |
    • CNNuthin

      Your family must really miss the 60's.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:22 pm |
    • Grasshopper

      People are usaully hostile when they don't understand...

      November 20, 2012 at 1:24 pm |
    • King Prawn

      All must bow before me.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:44 pm |
  31. Caveman

    First off, we are not alone. There are other complex, intelligent life forms such as us in the universe, however, we are a rare breed. Second, there is a god, just not the kind of god you are all expecting. It's not a he or a she, it's an "it", and "it" has a concience because we cannot be above what created us, so if WE have a concience, then so does what created us.

    Thirdly, we are basically all floating on a spec of dust (earth), and it's amazing that we think of ourselves on such a grandious scale when in reality, you would never know we existed if you were just standing on the moon looking at Earth. We are little, people...very little.

    November 20, 2012 at 9:16 am |
    • NJohnM

      I think you've been reading too much L. Rod Hubbard (or Joe Blitz).

      November 20, 2012 at 9:40 am |
    • El Flaco

      I'd love to believe that the universe is filled with intelligent life. At the moment, there is not one speck of evidence to indicate that life exists anywhere but on our own planet. You can argue that out there among all the hundreds of billions of galaxies – each containing hundreds of billions of stars – life must have surely evolved elsewhere. That is a reasonable statement, but it is not proof.

      I suspect that there is intelligent life elsewhere in the universe, but it seems unlikely that we will ever meet them. We are too far apart, and there is no way to travel between stars.

      November 20, 2012 at 9:47 am |
      • Dave H

        Reading some of the news stories, I'm not convinced there is intelligent life HERE.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:15 am |
      • JohnnyDH

        Yeah yeah yeah...and 600 years ago there was no proof the world was round.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:31 am |
      • A

        Did it ever occur to you that we are very primitive and that just because we haven't figured out whether anything exists out there or not or how to get there through space travel, doesn't mean it can't be done. I would imagine that there are other life forms out there much further ahead on this subject than we are, and we just haven't caught up yet. Your post being a prime example of the primitive thought we are relegated to at this point.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:35 am |
      • frank


        November 20, 2012 at 10:40 am |
      • disengaging from you lunatics


        The idea that people thought the earth was flat 600 or even 1000 years ago is a myth. Before the fall of Rome and as far back as the birth of the written language, the ancients knew the earth was round. The common, uneducated laborer may have believed in flat earth, but the ancients knew a h3ll of a lot more than the common uneducated man of today gives them credit for. These civilizations that came before us knew more than we have forgotten. All of this wonderful science we take for granted today is because of the knowledge your ancestors whispered through the ages.

        November 20, 2012 at 11:34 am |
      • Hogan's Goat

        " We are too far apart, and there is no way to travel between stars." I think Carl Sagan wrote about this; odds are that the closest intelligent race to us hasn't evolved yet, or died out when we were cavemen, and that we will have actually died of DNA-decay long before we could find them. Vernor Vinge thinks they might have sent us messages, though.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:42 pm |
    • Patines

      Can you invite me to your cave? I want to talk to you.

      November 20, 2012 at 10:11 am |
    • Dave C

      I think you mean consciousness, there's a big difference between conscience and consciousness.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:35 am |
      • Jacki

        I had to LOL at that, Dave.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:01 pm |
    • dickdeadwood

      Caveman, good analysis Ive often thought that way myself about humans and the earth. riight-on Bro!

      November 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
    • Astroman

      Actually, you can see our cities lights from the moon when that part of Earth is not in sunlight. So, if you were standing on the moon, you could infer that something unusual was happening on this speck.
      Don't mind calling to attention how small Earth is, but if you don't actually speak fact, no one will believe the rest of your story.
      Just sayin'.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:41 pm |
  32. Steven johnson

    Also known as Nibiru.

    November 20, 2012 at 8:18 am |
    • OrganicManLives_N_anOraganicUNiverSE

      but are the ancient Sumerian gods riding along with it.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:28 am |
    • Maelius

      Way too far away to be the mythical Nibiru.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:31 am |
      • Anunaki

        Well... It may be approaching, that's the why it hadn't been discovered before... 😉

        November 20, 2012 at 9:02 am |
    • Vern Sawyer


      November 20, 2012 at 9:07 am |
    • Marnie

      I think your right..

      November 20, 2012 at 4:15 pm |
  33. Little Jimmy

    If God is so powerful and omnipotent, why does he get so angry if we don't blindly worship him constantly?

    Seems more like an angry tween with a magnifying glass looking at an anthill.

    November 20, 2012 at 8:14 am |
    • Grasshooper

      Man believes at the level of his/her understanding...

      November 20, 2012 at 8:42 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        In other words you don't know.

        November 20, 2012 at 9:50 am |
    • Knowbuddy

      Because man created God in man's image.

      November 20, 2012 at 11:19 am |
  34. Johnny 5

    Science is king!

    November 20, 2012 at 8:13 am |
  35. The Master

    So do we call it "Supiter?

    November 20, 2012 at 7:30 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      What does my mother-in-law have to do with this?

      November 20, 2012 at 9:51 am |
    • edavis0528

      Super dupiter

      November 20, 2012 at 10:51 am |
  36. God is dead

    How did god create light on the 1st day but didn't create any source of light such as our sun or other stars, or anything else for that matter until the 4th day? Also, why did it take god 6 whole days just to create the earth when it took him only 1 day to create hundreds of billions of galaxies, each containing trillions of stars and billions of planets, including other earth-like planets?

    November 20, 2012 at 7:13 am |
    • Oliver Cowdery

      Better yet. What's the difference between fairytales and horseradish?

      November 20, 2012 at 7:21 am |
      • Little Jimmy

        Can God make horseradish so hot that he can't eat it?

        November 20, 2012 at 8:30 am |
      • snicklefritz


        November 20, 2012 at 11:00 am |
    • bag o chips

      you come to a science forum and bring up topics about god...if you're sooo smart, why stoop to that level and try discussing a real topic? you people annoy me.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:12 am |
      • Grasshooper

        Everything you say, do, think and feel has nothing to do with anything but you...communicating your feelings make you transparent.

        November 20, 2012 at 8:52 am |
    • Grasshooper

      Perhaps you should read Gregg Braden's "Divine Matrix" in which he explains how science and spirituality are converging...there is an energy matrix throughout the universe that everything is connected to, in which everthing is created. footnotes included.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:47 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        Anything can be ‘explained’ if you ignore factual evidence and implies ones personal theories and interpretations are facts.

        November 20, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • George Leroy Tirebiter

      Why does the porridge bird lay its egg in the air?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:24 pm |
  37. yankeeshogun

    I'm hoping that Richard Branson and Paul Allen get them spaceship gizmos flying soon so I can take a quick jaunt out to that thar uber-planet!

    November 20, 2012 at 6:39 am |
    • Zeke

      what you think bout that thar lectrcity?

      November 20, 2012 at 8:54 am |
  38. James

    Isnt God so amazing?! Thank you God for allowing us to explore your creations! Looking forward to hear about more discoveries of your creations! Love you Jesus!!

    November 20, 2012 at 6:17 am |
    • Albert911emt`

      This isn't an article about religion.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:32 am |
    • JC

      Oh dear god.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:46 am |
    • Annette Green

      I thank God too for all of his creation. He keeps up focused on him through all things.

      November 20, 2012 at 7:22 am |
    • nichole

      Its called freedom of speech and James can thank anyone he wants. Amen

      November 20, 2012 at 7:58 am |
      • Believer Bingo

        Wha-bam! The Victim Card.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:54 pm |
    • AGeek

      Freedom of speech, indeed. We can say that James, Annette, and Nichole have evolved slightly above the Bronze Age. Congratulations on your achievement. Now, please stop holding back the rest of us who managed this feat about 3000 years ago.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:12 am |
    • ss

      Give me a break! If loving your imaginary friend gets you through the day then so be it but just remember we put our kids in therapy for talking to their imaginary friend, you could be

      November 20, 2012 at 9:55 am |
    • Damien

      It is amazing the people that hate on those who have faith. They have nothing to look forward to except an eternity in a pine box 6 feet below ground. No wonder they are miserable.

      November 20, 2012 at 10:40 am |
      • That's What's Up

        I don't believe in god but I thank him every day for all the fine tail that roams on my planet

        November 20, 2012 at 2:15 pm |
      • Meh

        We dont hate you knuckleheads...we just feel sorry that you believe in fairy tales

        November 20, 2012 at 2:17 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        "They have nothing to look forward to except an eternity in a pine box 6 feet below ground." When I go, I'll leave behind a lot of friends, a lot of things I've written or drawn or painted or otherwise created; my son will go on into the future and my wife will be sad. I do my living today and try not to waste my time. No, I don't expect to come back and live forever on a cloud; how boring and awful would that be? I've seen all sorts of miracles and wonders and startlements in my life, and I expect more; we have a robot on Mars right now. Life's an adventure, and I've lived it, not that I jump out of planes or hunt wild boar or drink all night with wild women. OK, let's just say I don't drink all night with wild women anymore.

        November 20, 2012 at 4:04 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      "Thank you God for allowing us to explore your creations! " This is how you are supposed to react when some new truth is uncovered, not blind denial and rage. If it's true, it's true, including the age of the world and the Earth's orbit.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:00 pm |
  39. Jokesterer

    It's a bird! It's a plane! No, it's SUPITER!

    I wonder if this is the Nibiru thing I've been hearing about.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:55 am |
    • JC

      It's a 170 light years away, so unless planets develop some form of warp drive spontaneously... no it isn't coming close to us in the next... oh I'd say FOREVER.

      FYI, if Nibiru existed it would have to travel far out into our Solar system to have the apparent cycle the "believers" believe in, in which case, once it was incoming we'd have something like a few hundred, hell maybe even a thousand years, in which to spot it and plot its course through the solar system. So no, no Nibiru, unless the evil Reptillians painted the entire damn planet in Stealth mass-shrouding paint or something.

      November 20, 2012 at 6:50 am |
  40. winfred

    is it not amazing how a story on discovery lead to a debate whether God exist or not?. that only goes to prove one thing, somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of the existence of God, but because we have decided to be close minded and be non-objective in our thinking, we do not see the realities of the things that we talk about. nobody ever seeks to see God and doesn't see him. all the people that try to see him always see him.

    November 20, 2012 at 5:01 am |
    • Sue Hutson

      Close minded and non objective???? And you are referring to non believers???? Pot calling the kettle here.....

      November 20, 2012 at 5:06 am |
    • Dan

      You don't know how silly you sound. Debating whether or not god exists is like debating whether or not the tooth fairy exists. Your god will exist when it is proven and not until then. I wouldn't expect anyone to believe me if I sat here and made up absurd, magical nonsense either.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:13 am |
    • Hal

      Objective: meaning, basically, impartial. As an impartial observer, it seems reasonable to expect that only people who believe in God would find Him. The rest of us have to rely on their inherently subjective opinions. Opinions, which are, frankly, at best a bit inspiring, normally a downer and at worst offensive.

      November 20, 2012 at 5:21 am |
    • aktap

      Good stuff! can I have a Hit too?

      November 20, 2012 at 5:47 am |
    • Sue

      Which god are you referring too exactly? I mean there are quite a few of them out there. Also, how convenient for you that god is a male.

      November 20, 2012 at 9:35 am |
    • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

      that only goes to prove one thing

      That you theist consistently beat everyone over the head with your basely theories of existence and people who live their lives based on factual reality get tired of it?

      November 20, 2012 at 10:00 am |
      • Grasshopper

        And then there are those how "know" what reality is, like you, and then belittle those who disagree. "The world is an illusion" A. Einstein. A person who thinks they know everything typically knows very little. Hey, Happy Thanksgiving TTTPS

        November 20, 2012 at 1:18 pm |
    • sam

      Every damn science article ends up full of fundies yammering about god, it's unavoidable.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:34 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      "that only goes to prove one thing, somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of the existence of God" How does that prove anything? If we were arguing about Bigfoot, would it mean that somewhere deep down in our hearts we are aware of Sasquatch? How about Lord of the Rings? The fact that we can argue about whether or not Gandalf was one of the Noldor means the whole book is TRUE?

      November 20, 2012 at 4:07 pm |
  41. David Wall

    Can't believe how many truly ignorant people post on here – go and get a job. This assumes you can read, write and and use basic mathematics, which most of you seem to be incapable of !!!!!

    November 20, 2012 at 4:42 am |
    • TNT

      Ignorant!? do not treat people ignorant if they do have another idea than yours!!

      November 20, 2012 at 5:04 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      I suspect a lot of these folks are sitting around in the public/homeless area of the public library, indignantly protecting God from our insulting science until their hour runs out and someone else gets to use the computer, and yes, they'd probably love a job.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:10 pm |
  42. David Wall

    Sal, good post. Open minds are essential to any and all research. Rubbish about god and things like creationism have absolutely NO place in the advancement of human knowledge.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:07 am |
  43. mouse

    dismissing future events based on the timid incomplete tech and understanding we currently have is the height of stupidity and worse the height of religious arrogance(for those who base their whole argument around the ;god did this for us to look at not touch' dogma .. the fact is we have means of going there, some are too slow to do so in a single lifetime, most require generational ships but those are not out of the realm of possibility. another fact is as our understanding of elemental physics expand we discover that light is not the upper limit of speed, we can actually communicate at faster than light speeds with modern tech (not practical but proven feasible which is the first step)

    NASA and other agencies and private companies are working on the break through tech that will get us there, some believe we already have such tech(i do not dismiss this out of hand because we know certain gov agencies have tech 5oyrs+ more advanced than we have been allowed to know. warp drive, a feasible version has been presented and in the course of time since its inception has been improved upon. magentohydrodynac drives are also viable and we have begun to understand how to tap energies more than sufficient to propel these create without breaking einsteins lightspeed limit. so i recommend you do some serious research into what we are capable of currently before suggesting what we can not do in the future.

    only a close mind is incapable of seeing that we have much left to learn and somewhere in that vast body of unknown data may lay the solution to all the problems the 'god' faction dismiss without considering they may be wrong to put stock in a bronze age skygod who didnt tell us our little mudball was just 1 of trillions which makes me wonder if this skygod actually knew or if it was just a fable to help scared small minded people feel safe while dictating the way they should impose it on everyone else to drag them down into mythos and out of the light of science.

    November 20, 2012 at 4:05 am |
    • mouse

      error correction ... 50yrs, if not a lot more

      November 20, 2012 at 4:06 am |
      • mouse

        please excuse my typonese ... its get a bit annoying this late(for me) at night) however my points stand as valid ... if you chose to bury your head in the sand(or a book that is from a time when the understanding of the universe was less than incomplete and actively in opposition to understanding things beyond simplistic tribal prejudices and hatred of things that disprove your individual delusions that is entirely up to you, it does stop at imposing those those dictates from a skygod, whose existences is dubious at best, murderous in execution by its followers at worst. no individual nor their organized hate group has the right to impose their dogma on the rest of us because our works disporve so much of that dogma

        November 20, 2012 at 4:14 am |
    • David Wall

      Like and agree with your simple and obviously logical comments. Uneducated and/or otherwise simply stupid people will always produce conspiracy theories, theories about non-existant gods, creationsm theories along with purely nonsense speculation about other events etc. (UFOs, Atlantis etc. etc.)

      Learning new knowledge, overturning previously accepted facts and replacing them with newly learned "Facts" (which may themselves be overturned in time as our factual knowledge advances) is inevitable. Humans HAVE to accept that they wil NEVER know everthing and may NEVER be able to.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:29 am |

    GOD created all the galaxies, stars and planets;

    and He has thus put His most magnificent "Mathematical Signature" on them:

    November 20, 2012 at 3:46 am |
    • dwsd

      I I like astronomic news.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:01 am |
  45. Ben

    Did the Creator God also created that planet during his creaation period?

    November 20, 2012 at 3:03 am |
    • William Watkins

      YES God created everything, he created things like this just to say look at what i can do, explore

      November 20, 2012 at 3:22 am |
      • Sue Hutson

        Well, he was certainly successful with suffering and wars...look what I can do!!

        November 20, 2012 at 5:12 am |
      • aktap

        Heck ya, Wars Gods Video Game. sound about right, sucks to be just a Human I guess?

        November 20, 2012 at 5:51 am |
      • Perry

        Is God really so nervous about what people think that he feels the need to create all of this stuff to impress a few human beings? I mean we are talking about "God" here right???? Why would he care what a few people with a puny understanding of the universe think. When I bought an ant farm as a kid I did not build super amazing and unimaginable structures and objects to win over the admiration of the ants. 😛

        November 20, 2012 at 6:01 am |
      • Grasshopper

        For anyone to think they know God's intentions is it pssible that her intentions are beyond our understanding? There is war and it possilbe that in God there is no right or wrong? Is it possible that our judgements are based on our humanness?

        November 20, 2012 at 9:14 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        For anyone to think they know God's intentions is ridiculous.. Just as it is ridiculous to think they know the Easter Bunny’s intentions.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:07 am |
      • Bible Clown©

        "ridiculous to think they know the Easter Bunny’s intentions." The Easter Bunny delivers his eggs with icy contempt for all humanity. He wishes us all dead, but the ancient Curse of Œstrus compels him to gather and distribute eggs to the hated human oppressors. One day he will find the strength to poison us all . . .

        November 20, 2012 at 4:14 pm |
    • Sal

      Why does God have to be even spoken about in an article on discovery of a new planet. Is it not wsie to have an open mind?

      November 20, 2012 at 3:34 am |
    • Emmanuel

      This discovery tells us how vast, wide, high and broad creation is. Man has not seen anything yet. I think God allows these discoveries to tell man that He God is great. All of these discoveries should lead man to faith and trust in God but interestingly some stupid scientists think that they are so smart. Well, Gods hands are widely open for their salvation anyways.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:53 am |
      • Sue Hutson

        Stupid scientists?? I will take an open minded education over brainwashing any day, and you have been brainwashed big time!

        November 20, 2012 at 5:11 am |
      • Perry

        Again we are talking about God here right???? creator of the universe, Mr. Omnipotent??? You actually believe if he did build all this he did it to impress you???? Sorry mate you are not that important. And if God is real. 1: I doubt we are his only intelligent creation. 2: He is probably so beyond our comprehension I doubt we would ever know his plan for us, or how he expects us to act for that matter. 3: You saying you understand why God did all this and you "understanding" what he wanted of us and how he wants us to live is a great insult to this God. If anything he would be angry and frustrated at the fact you think you understand him. We are like ants in an ant farm to him.

        November 20, 2012 at 6:07 am |
      • tim

        emmanuel. and why was that name bestowed upon you? the apple does not fall far from the tree ? u r yet another example of unfortunate parental indoctrination.

        November 20, 2012 at 8:41 am |
      • John

        Fine, just keep your god off my lawn.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:38 pm |
      • cedar rapids

        'I think God allows these discoveries to tell man that He God is great.'

        he has self esteem issues does he? needs some kind of affirmation from us? aww, poor thing.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:48 pm |
      • Bible Clown©

        " but interestingly some stupid scientists think that they are so smart. " Says a person using a computer to send messages coded into ones and zeroes across the world to other computers via geostationary satellites. How about you log off and just send your posts to this website by praying them? Get back to me when that happens, ok? Geez, some people . . .

        November 20, 2012 at 4:23 pm |
  46. worm

    nasa waste of monry

    November 20, 2012 at 1:05 am |
    • Andy in Oz

      Apparently so was your education.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:02 am |
    • MOCaseA

      NASA's Budget is less than 0.5% of the federal budget. Yet even with this tiny expenditure it not only performs it's mission, but creates new technologies that benefit all mankind (as well as tidy profits that the Government can tax). Out of all the programs that the Government funds, this is one of the very few that not only pays for itself, but many others as well.

      So tell me again how NASA is a waster of money?

      November 20, 2012 at 2:36 am |

      Why? It's very interesting and may be useful for understanding of nature.

      November 20, 2012 at 8:04 am |
  47. TNT

    I'm a magician (not ilusionist)! I did evil things to get more power and skills! and i can tell you that god and evil exist ! science science blind your eyes guys.

    November 20, 2012 at 12:42 am |
    • rob

      what the heck does your response have to do with anything

      November 20, 2012 at 1:15 am |
    • Ben

      "Do good, avoid evil, keep the mind pure." – Buddha

      November 20, 2012 at 3:05 am |
      • Jose

        Evil is more fun.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:25 pm |
    • Bible Clown©

      Hey, aren't you that guy who ate a Corgi? Did you gain the power to bark like a dog? How about squeal like a pig? All life is an illusion, grasshopper.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:25 pm |
  48. Chaimster

    170 light years away, eh? That means they're looking back at us, now just seeing the California gold rush!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:27 am |
    • Turner

      hah hah

      November 20, 2012 at 3:46 am |
  49. George Morales

    Oy my God . . . it's NIBIRU and it coming to Earth! Don't worry guys it is definitely not 12-21-12. The Mayans had it wrong, it is 12-12-21!

    November 20, 2012 at 12:19 am |
    • rob

      we will still be here

      November 20, 2012 at 1:18 am |
    • 1st of Octember

      No, you are wrong, it is 21-21-2121

      (and don't be bothered about month indexing)

      November 20, 2012 at 2:15 am |
    • Turner

      I thought it was 1212121212121212121212121...

      November 20, 2012 at 3:48 am |
  50. Devout Christian

    It is a SIN in the eyes of GOD to look outside his creation of EARTH!

    November 19, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Also a Christian

      Don't look up!

      November 19, 2012 at 11:41 pm |

      so is wearing clothes made of mixed fabric...

      November 19, 2012 at 11:50 pm |
    • Mike (no cult affiliation)

      Looks like you are in trouble then! This is a sinful place and you should be ashamed for even posting on such a site.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:12 am |
      • rob

        so should you.

        November 20, 2012 at 1:19 am |
    • Hadenuffyet


      November 20, 2012 at 12:13 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        Faith and religion depend on ignorance.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:12 am |
    • Vendetta

      Honestly, are you serious about your post, or are you being sarcastic?

      November 20, 2012 at 12:55 am |
    • rob

      you are crazy, GOD gave man eyes, GOD gave man wonder, everything is GOD made, everything GOD makes is OK. What bible are you reading to have such a narrow view of REAL life...

      November 20, 2012 at 1:17 am |
      • yup

        I doubt it is a bible, probably a quran...

        November 20, 2012 at 1:43 am |
      • Thinker

        @ yup: This is a narrow thinking and shows a lack of reading & knowledge. God has given us the brain and the wonder so that we look at His creations on Earth and beyond. I've read the bible as well as the quran and both are encouraging mankind to think of God's creations and praise God for His perfection. In fact, quran has a chapter and versus that speaks about the universe and planets so it's better that you read before you talk.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:14 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        Are you saying GOD gave me an STD?

        November 20, 2012 at 10:13 am |
    • God

      I created everything you moron. Why are telling everyone I said not to look at my amazing creation you call the universe? I know I gave you a brain that works. Use it. When you're done on this planet, we're going to have a little talk about the sins of trolling and besmirching my good name.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:46 am |
      • mmi16

        There is a God!

        November 20, 2012 at 2:09 am |
      • Turner

        Leave a Reply to God

        November 20, 2012 at 3:51 am |
      • Ralph Monkman

        Get Real (if you can)

        November 20, 2012 at 1:23 pm |
    • Darth Mortis

      So are the pursuit of personal wealth and divorce.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:06 am |
    • j0eschm0e

      Fanatics like you is why Romney lost the election

      November 20, 2012 at 2:32 am |
      • Keith

        I think his sacred underwear caused him to lose. It made him look.....shall we say....Stupid? SCARED UNDERWEAR! Just think about that...

        November 20, 2012 at 4:47 am |
    • Thinker

      Which bible are you reading man that tells you to only look at your toes?!!

      November 20, 2012 at 3:18 am |
    • Devout Christian

      I have forsaken everything in this life to uphold my beliefs in Christianity. I will sin if I have to.

      November 20, 2012 at 9:32 am |
    • Bible Clown©

      "It is a SIN in the eyes of GOD to look outside his creation of EARTH!" So everyone who saw STAR WARS is in big trouble, right? Also, if you get a phone call via satellite, prepare to burn in hell for eternity. Hey, I don't make these rules.

      November 20, 2012 at 4:46 pm |
  51. Galaxy Prime

    Perhaps every solar system has a big fat planet like Jupiter that just loafs around and does nothing – in other words... Jupiter is like the brother-in-law of planets.

    November 19, 2012 at 11:19 pm |
    • lol

      Jupiter may be big and fat, but its hardly useless. Without its gravitational pull, Earth would have been victim to large planet killing Asteroids, and life would have never succeeded here. Jupiter acts like a vacuum cleaner for the solar system, drawing debris towards it. Case in Point: The giant meteor strikes that hit Jupiter in the last few years.

      November 19, 2012 at 11:33 pm |
  52. Az

    Who can deny God ? These massive planets and star are significantly drawing our attention towards the creator.

    November 19, 2012 at 10:31 pm |
    • Moby Schtick

      Interesting objects in space do nothing to prove or disprove the existence of any gods imagined by humans.

      November 19, 2012 at 10:41 pm |
      • JRo

        Totally agree!

        November 19, 2012 at 11:13 pm |
      • nab

        and yes God did reveal before man had telescopes that the earth is round not some flat pancake being juggled on an elephant standing on a turtle as usual some people would rather believe in the elephant theory then God how strange??

        November 19, 2012 at 11:27 pm |
      • TNT

        If evil exist, God exist.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:33 am |
      • Spacejunck

        Yes it does...the whole universe works like a can't have a machine without an inventor.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:42 am |
      • adrian

        well who made the inventor and the inventors creator and the inventors creator creator or maybe its just chaos and we sprouted out of the stars

        November 20, 2012 at 3:06 am |
      • cedar rapids

        'the whole universe works like a machine'

        in what way?

        November 20, 2012 at 3:51 pm |
    • Klaark

      Az, so do the boils on your ass if that's your standard of proof. Typical religious ninny..."Ah, something awe inspiring or hard to understand...must be there's an invisible man living in the sky"

      November 19, 2012 at 11:15 pm |
    • Troy

      Seriously? It boggles my mind that people are so willing to believe in "the great man in the sky" over worshiping physics and science. Science and reality inform every aspect of my life. Take note kids.

      November 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
      • Gayle

        Science is just a series of lies with each new iteration more closely approximating the truth.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:22 am |
      • j0eschm0e

        Gayle youre delusional. science is what in everything man has made. so in your words cars(example) that we drive are a lie?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:40 am |
    • nab

      I totally agree that it IS proof that a GOD exists and anyone who denies that is loco after-all if the earth was 1cm closer to the sun we would be fried and if it was 1 cm further we would be ice-cubes!! who put us on this planet with oxygen and enough water ..........oh yes chance makes more sense NOT!!! Stop denying God the credit that IS HIS!!!!

      November 19, 2012 at 11:23 pm |
      • JayJay

        Sorry to burst your bubble. The earth's orbit is not circular, but an ellipse. Earth's distance from the sun varies from 92 million to 94 million miles as it revolves about the sun. Your statement of 1 Cm makes no sense.The peak of Mount Everest is 30,000 feet "closer" to the sun than an object at sea level. Last time we looked, the temps at the top of Everest were way below zero, not burning up, as you postulate. The dynamic systems involved are not as simplistic as you propose.

        November 19, 2012 at 11:43 pm |
      • Tex-Mex Dude

        Not to put you down, nab, but for the sake of facts, Jay-Jay is right. The earth's orbit around the sun indeed resembles an ellipse rather than a perfect circle. You don't believe it? We live in the age of information, look it up.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:34 am |
      • sec 8

        I think hes referring to the 1 degree not the 1cm. He would be correct about 1 degree of the elipsies. In any case the amount of pinhole like events that occurred to allow life on earth is amazing. If one of those events did not take place we wouldnt be here to talk about it in the first place. It really did take some serious luck that we are here. Not really sure if its Godly or chance like but repugnant is a creature who squanders the ability to even cast an eye to the heavens conscience of his fleeting time here.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:58 am |
      • Questions401

        n a b is not a christian, he is just spouting extremist views to get a rise out of people… True Christians won't try to discredit clear and obvious scientific facts because of some old stories in a book…

        "science is the language of god" Albert Einstein

        November 20, 2012 at 1:08 am |
      • Poster

        Our existence only seems to be special because we live it. Were there an amazing amount of highly unlikely events that allow us to exist today? Yes. But the universe had trillions upon trillions of years, with a seemingly unlimited amount of space for these occurrences to take place. If someone could live long enough to play the lottery every day of his life, in every part of the world where the lottery is being played for a few trillion years, he would probably win – and he may have won a few times.

        November 20, 2012 at 7:33 am |
      • Tom, Tom, the Piper's Son

        Christians won't try to discredit clear and obvious scientific facts because of some old stories in a book…

        LOL.. if anyone here is an extremist…its you.

        November 20, 2012 at 10:23 am |
      • cedar rapids

        'who put us on this planet with oxygen and enough water'

        er, we are how we are because of the environment we evolved in.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:54 pm |
  53. Observer

    It's threads like this that lead me to believe we will never travel to the stars.

    November 19, 2012 at 10:24 pm |
    • sec 8

      It is highly unlikely that we ever will given the current path of global destruction we are on.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:01 am |
  54. Willes

    This CNN international page of supposed research and discoveries is a complete joke. International my A..! It's almost all about US events and reports almost noting about actual global events. Recently European scientist found a planet at Alpha Centauri our nearest star system. An incredible discovery of highest importance to astronomy. Even NASA called it the greatest dicoverie in a decade. But CNN didn't even have an article while even channels like Foxnews did. Just recently European and Canadian astronemers detected a free floating planet. The first ever directly detected. Big news all around the science pages of the world news channels. Nothing on CNN. A few weeks back European astronomers found a planet in the habitable zone of a nearby star. The first close planet (close enough for future observation to analyse the atmosphere) ever found in the habitable zone able to potentially support life. A Eureka moment and reported everywhere and yes even Foxnews. And yes, guess what; Nothing on CNN.

    Now they find some much! Less intersting jupiter world and NASA is involved then guess what, yes CNN reports it. CNN can go jump from the nearest bridge for all i care.

    November 19, 2012 at 10:21 pm |
    • RSFan

      November 19, 2012 at 11:31 pm |
    • Theo

      Funny how I learned of all the discoveries you mentioned in your tirade on CNN.

      November 20, 2012 at 1:46 am |
      • Willes

        Show me the 3 articles. I only see 1.

        November 20, 2012 at 3:54 am |
  55. Dasea

    imagine if humans evolved on a planet x16 jupiter. they would be 15,000 times larger than earth humans. a human that can long jump 20 feet is considered really great, so these super-jupiter men could jump 60 miles in one jump. The relative distance from our moon to our earth would be like a human traveling 15.8 miles through space.

    November 19, 2012 at 8:25 pm |
    • Dasea

      traveling from one star to another which was 4 light years away would be similar distance for a creature 16,000 our size to traveling from earth to uranus,

      November 19, 2012 at 8:34 pm |
    • patrick quinn

      too bad our fat kids will die before they get to see it, you can thank HOSTESS amongst others

      November 19, 2012 at 8:37 pm |
      • Dasea

        twinkies go straight to uranus

        November 19, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
      • Spacejunck

        uranus is a big gas giant

        November 20, 2012 at 12:57 am |
    • Physics guy

      One problem. Gas giants are mostly just that, gas. The solid core would feel so much pressure that any life form would implode. Plus, the weather on these planets are terrible. Jupiter's "great red spot" is larger than Earth.

      November 19, 2012 at 8:42 pm |
    • physnchips

      Don't want to burst your bubble, but just because you spun some proportions out doesn't mean that these hypothetical humans or beings would have a perception of the universe that scaled with your linear factors. In fact, it's a lot harder for larger things to travel than it is for smaller things. It's no coincidence that a massless particle, the photon (light), is the fastest thing in the universe. I like your enthusiasm, but you're just off base.

      November 19, 2012 at 9:59 pm |
      • Brainiac

        Since you like accuracy, here goes. Light is obviously not the fastest thing in the Universe. Gravity is instantaneous and bends light before it can even leave it's vicinity In fact, as we now know, light can even be trapped by gravity so it can't even escape! Yet as it is doing this gravity itself remains unimpeded. Therefore Gravity is faster as well as more powerful than Light.

        November 20, 2012 at 12:01 am |
      • physnchips

        Gravity isn't instantaneous, what are you talking about with "speed of gravity" anyway?

        November 20, 2012 at 2:02 am |
      • MOCaseA

        Brainless – Since you are so bent on accuracy, here goes. Gravity has no "speed" is is actuality a force dependent on mass and magnetism. Gravity affects speed, creating a resistance field. Larger "pools" of gravity, like those around hyper-dense objects (think "black holes" and quantum singularities) can trap or slow things such as the ultra small photon particle (not mass-less, but smaller than even an electron). Light takes 8 minutes to reach earth from the surface of the sun. Light traveling through an area where gravity has a lesser effect would be a few seconds faster as gravity doesn't slow the particle. I don't think scientists have yet found an area where gravity doesn't have an effect. To give you an idea of how much an effect gravity has on photons, it takes light nearly a year to escape the surface of the sun, and the majority of the photons we are seeing actually originate near the center of the Sun. Due to gravity, particle density and resistance (larger particles) it takes nearly 10,000 years for a photon that originated near the center of the sun to reach it's surface. Eliminating all the other factors, but leaving just gravity in effect it would still take a few years.

        Oh, and light (photons) isn't that fastest particle known BTW. It is one of the fastest particles that is common, but scientists have discovered faster particles, and regularly use them in galactic observation.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:02 am |
      • Theo

        Brainiac said: "Therefore Gravity is faster as well as more powerful than Light." Not at all true – the electromagnetic force behind the photon is the second strongest of the four fundamental forces while gravity is the weakest (by 37 orders of magnitude). You really can't equate a photon's emf to the gravitational force of a celestial body like a sun.

        November 20, 2012 at 2:26 am |
      • Brainiacker

        A gravitational perturbation (presumably carried by gravitons) travels no faster than the speed of light.

        November 20, 2012 at 5:04 pm |
    • Bonzi77

      Assuming it was possible, any life-form evolving on a planet that much bigger than earth would be much smaller, not larger. The immense gravity would crush anything on it down to size.

      November 19, 2012 at 10:20 pm |
    • akismet-b817e34f297ca25b9e12393b91c1b61d

      That wouldn't be the case at all, a planet that size would mean smaller size, like an ant.

      November 19, 2012 at 10:39 pm |
  56. Tony

    I dont care...I want some turky.

    November 19, 2012 at 8:03 pm |
    • Af

      You make me laugh so hard that i almost fell of my chair

      November 19, 2012 at 8:38 pm |
    • Josh

      You'd have to learn how to spell "turkey" first, nimrod.

      November 19, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
      • physnchips

        What makes you think he's a good hunter?

        November 19, 2012 at 10:01 pm |
      • Joe

        Now that was funny

        November 19, 2012 at 10:07 pm |
    • Blasius

      Sure. The turkey would be about 3200 lbs....about the size of a small elephant.

      November 19, 2012 at 8:41 pm |
    • j0eschm0e


      November 20, 2012 at 2:54 am |
  57. Letsgetthere

    We can speculate about the distance but the fact is our evolution of humans will either evolve into something else or die off. The only alternative is we find new propulsion systems and new science to take us further into space and continue our exploration and expansion of our kind across the galaxies. And to be honest, I would prefer a map before I get on the road to have some destination so NASA thank you for give us that. Regardless in a lab, through a telescope or up in lower space orbit, lets keep the research and exploration going.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  58. db

    It is my dream to one day engage in the act of coitus with a hot girl on a hot Jupiter. I hear that Jupiter is where girls go to get more stupider and often times stupid girls are pretty hot.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:47 pm |
    • Jose

      You'll just have to do with pleasuring yourself in your momma's basement for now.

      November 20, 2012 at 12:30 pm |
  59. idiophobia

    i found this interesting "Planets do not produce energy through fusion. However, planets do emit heat that is left over from their own formation." if this is so then maybe some of the other planets they have found will, shall i say "cool down" and become habitable in the future?

    November 19, 2012 at 7:39 pm |
    • Data1000

      That is what happened to Earth.

      November 19, 2012 at 8:08 pm |
    • MOCaseA

      Not necessarily. Most "hot" planets we know of are a direct result of radiant energy from their parent star. Other planets have a core that is constantly heated through the "tidal" forces of gravity (pressure and friction), generally due to being in the close neighborhood of a much larger astronomical companion. Not only do we have examples of that throughout the known extra-solar planets, we have examples of that within our own solar neighborhood. Mercury is a solid lump of rock that should have cooled down a long time ago. It's core it still very active due to tidal forces and radiant heat from the sun. The Earth's core is going to remain a pretty constant temperature until the sun dies due to gravitational pressure and the tidal effects of our moon. Jupiter is extraordinarily hot due to its massive size. Uranus is very cold due to its distance from the sun and its gas composition. Jupiter is primarily Hydrogen and Helium. Uranus while still a lot of hydrogen has much higher content of helium, oxygen and heavier compounds like methane and water. The further from the sun you get, the heavier the compounds and the colder the planet gets, even though most formed at the same time, or even after Earth did.

      November 20, 2012 at 2:24 am |
  60. Scott

    You messed up, Jeff. Instead of admitting it, now you look like a tool and an idiot. Good job.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:34 pm |
    • clown

      Wow trolling around and calling people names. Good job.

      November 19, 2012 at 7:38 pm |
    • Veritas

      Yes,because you're an expert and all. I love how you call him an idiot and say that he messed up, but you don't mention any specifics. This is probably due to the fact you have no clue what you are talking about. Yep, I think the term "Troll" definitely applies.

      November 19, 2012 at 7:48 pm |
  61. Commentreader

    I must go! Someone on the internet is wrong!

    November 19, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
    • cedar rapids

      Its ok, I put them straight.

      November 20, 2012 at 3:57 pm |
  62. Jack

    The "Subaru" Telescope... brought to you by your corporate overlords.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:22 pm |
    • SB

      Like many technology companies, Subaru funds a lot of pure research in many fields. Sometimes this leads to a technological edge in business, but often it leads to purely open discoveries. In a great example, the cosmic background radiation was accidentally discovered by a couple of astronomers working for Bell Labs.

      November 19, 2012 at 7:29 pm |
      • Chris

        It's name after the Pleiades, not the car company.

        November 19, 2012 at 9:26 pm |
      • rob

        right on Chris

        November 20, 2012 at 1:21 am |
    • Jp

      Blah Blah Blah... diarrhea of the mouth. That's all I read from your post.

      November 19, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
      • Blasius

        why the gratutious insults? This is not politics. You could complain about the money NASA is getting from the US tax payer and some would support you. Nasty comments on the other hand are like mirrors and boomerangs. They reflect on you and come back to haunt you.

        November 19, 2012 at 8:46 pm |
  63. Jeff

    It's all nice and cute we find all these planets that we will never get to visit.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • SB

      It's less nice and but still kind of cute when people type without thinking. "Going there" is not the primary goal of finding and cataloging exoplanets. They are studied from afar, and each one has something to tell us. We will learn more about planetary formation and evolution, the distribution of planets in the galaxy, the variety that can be found, etc. etc.

      Sure that's obvious enough?

      November 19, 2012 at 7:08 pm |
      • Jeff

        Ummm...did I say anything about going there?

        I love when people type things that were NEVER said. Read what I said again and think first before you quote things that were never said.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:09 pm |
      • SB

        Oops. Extra "and" in there.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:10 pm |
      • SB

        You made an empty-headed sarcastic remark about the significance of this find, dismissing its importance because "w will never get to visit". You were called on it and corrected. Instead of pretending you didn't say what is right there on the page, the correct response from you now is either "oh" or silence. No point in digging that hole deeper.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:12 pm |
      • Jeff

        Tell me in my statement where I said..."going there?"

        November 19, 2012 at 7:13 pm |
      • RickInNY

        Go there, or visit...same freaking thing lol. Pull the stick from your butt SB.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
      • RickInNY

        I meant Jeff, no SB...oops.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:15 pm |
      • SB

        Surely you understand the meaning of the word "visit"? You used the word, and in fact it was the entire, flawed premise of your failed attempt at being funny. So naturally I assumed you understood what the word meant. I see now I was in error, and that you do not even understand your own words, never mind those in the article.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
      • Jeff

        Going there are on your way. Visiting means a future trip.

        2 different things.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:16 pm |
      • SB

        It's less nice but still kind of cute when people type without thinking. "Visiting" is not the primary goal of finding and cataloging exoplanets. They are studied from afar, and each one has something to tell us. We will learn more about planetary formation and evolution, the distribution of planets in the galaxy, the variety that can be found, etc. etc.

        Sure that's obvious enough?


        You see? Even if I play along, the fact is you're still completely, utterly wrong.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:20 pm |
      • Charles

        A stunningly productive discourse gentlemen...

        November 19, 2012 at 7:27 pm |
      • SB

        And your contribution is what? At least I had a point.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:30 pm |
      • ronnniereagan

        Okay so here's the deal – Jeff you're a tool. SB, although technically correct, you may want to be checked for Asperger's Syndrome. Have a Happy Thanksgiving.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:52 pm |
      • CelticHunter7

        "It's all nice and cute we find all these planets that we will never get to visit."
        – And –
        "Going there are on your way. Visiting means a future trip."

        Your statement 'Never', precludes either 'Going' and 'Visiting'. You Jeff are a casebook example of someone with terminal brain damage.

        November 19, 2012 at 7:55 pm |
      • SB

        If symptoms of Asperger's include being irked when some 4th grade dropout belittles the amazing accomplishments of the human race, then I have a serious case.

        November 19, 2012 at 11:44 pm |
    • CelticHunter7

      Humans on the Earth looked up at the Moon for aeons, and wondered if they/we could ever visit the Moon. Then on July 20th, 1969, we did. Need I say more?

      November 19, 2012 at 7:43 pm |
      • cold blue torch

        We never went to the moon.

        November 19, 2012 at 11:24 pm |
      • David Wall

        'Cold Blue Torch' sounds like a dedicated moron !

        November 20, 2012 at 4:36 am |
  64. SB

    The significance of the report is that the planet/brown dwarf (it's right on the edge) has been *directly imaged* in the infrared. And yet instead of that amazing picture you use the artist's conception of what it might look like. This doesn't make sense to me. If you want to see the actual image, go to NASA's site and look at the article there.

    November 19, 2012 at 7:03 pm |
    • Ralter

      It's the exact same image on NASA's website, heh. Also, when they say "direct image" they mean an increase/decrease in the light levels given by the star. It just happens that telescopes are so precise now that they can measure such changes and infer what is causing them. In this case, a rather large gas giant.

      November 19, 2012 at 8:01 pm |
      • George Spalding

        This has NOTHING to do with the light levels given by the star, Ralter. This is an actual DIRECT IMAGE in the near-infrared light spectrum made by "masking" the parent Star Kappa Andromedae and watching for an anomaly of "white noise" in the fringe areas around that Star. Hard to believe but yep they actually are looking at the Planet itself.

        November 19, 2012 at 10:57 pm |
      • patrick quinn

        My account was compromised, apologies.


        November 20, 2012 at 12:07 am |
      • SB

        You did not look at the ACTUAL IMAGE of the planet. You only looked at the artist's conception at the top of the page on NASA's web site. Look again, and correct your post. You are wrong.

        November 19, 2012 at 11:42 pm |
      • SB

        Honestly, Ralter, if you can't be bothered to scroll down the page or actually READ the words on it, don't bother posting.

        November 19, 2012 at 11:45 pm |


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